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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:40:38 GMT -8
just the facts ma'am, nothing but the facts. My response was meant for the OP on this thread. Big Daddy Pimp Aztecs? that's a laugh. Memo to Gaucho, et al: FreshToDeath is to the Aztec community as Al Sharpton is to the Civil Rights Movement, The Spice Girls are to the music community, Police Academy 6 (etc) is to fine cinema......you get my drift. Seemed like a compliment after the first two examples to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 9:41:51 GMT -8
The reality is everybody knows that we are only looking at the BW until a better opportunity comes around. That's why SDSU doesn't have as much pull in the BW you might think. Why would they allow us to kick teams out of the conference when they know, one way or the other, we are only going to be in it for a few years? can't fault ya for trying to flex your muscles. you just want to hide the fact that between Pacific's ncaa appearances and production of a former #1 draft pick, Long Beach's history, Fullerton's one run to the elite eight, and the cultural similarities with UC Santa Barbara, your mighty two wins all-time in the tournament does not really stand out much in the conference. And despite the relative success of late, your profile still screams one-and-done. There is no arguing that in college athletic's current landscape SDSU is the giant in the conference and the BW is lucky to have us. End of discussion.
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 14, 2012 9:58:40 GMT -8
Memo to Gaucho, et al: FreshToDeath is to the Aztec community as Al Sharpton is to the Civil Rights Movement, The Spice Girls are to the music community, Police Academy 6 (etc) is to fine cinema......you get my drift. Seemed like a compliment after the first two examples to me. Funny, I thought with this crowd, that last example may have been a little iffy. Sharpton has indeed redeemed himself somewhat the last few years, but he's still considered a firebrand by many. Spice Girls.........I won't go there.
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Post by dreadhawk909 on Aug 14, 2012 10:00:11 GMT -8
Seemed like a compliment after the first two examples to me. Funny, I thought with this crowd, that last example may have been a little iffy. Sharpton has indeed redeemed himself somewhat the last few years, but he's still considered a firebrand by many. Spice Girls.........I won't go there. COME AT HER, BRO.
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Post by RB Aztec on Aug 14, 2012 10:15:15 GMT -8
New York City College has 2 NCAA basketball titles. I suppose you consider them superior to SDSU as well. not at all. it ain't about superiority here, although NYCC does have something SDSU does not have. it's strictly about how similar SDSU is to the conference members they are about to reunite with. What are you smoking? You really think SDSU is similar to members of the BW? SDSU has moved to a completely different level the last 6 years. There is a reason the MWC has been one of the top conferences in basketball in the U.S. SDSU is a big part of the reason for such a high rating. The BW is a gym league in basketball. SDSU is a top 20 school that can compete with the best teams in the nation. SDSU is a basketball and football school. The BW has no football and is extremely weak in hoops. Other than LBSU and UCSB, it is a basketball wasteland.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2012 10:42:57 GMT -8
not at all. it ain't about superiority here, although NYCC does have something SDSU does not have. it's strictly about how similar SDSU is to the conference members they are about to reunite with. What are you smoking? You really think SDSU is similar to members of the BW? SDSU has moved to a completely different level the last 6 years. There is a reason the MWC has been one of the top conferences in basketball in the U.S. SDSU is a big part of the reason for such a high rating. The BW is a gym league in basketball. SDSU is a top 20 school that can compete with the best teams in the nation. SDSU is a basketball and football school. The BW has no football and is extremely weak in hoops. Other than LBSU and UCSB, it is a basketball wasteland. Troll has found many bites - from both sides. The Aztecs and the Big West will mutually benefit from our alliance. The Big West is licking its chops with the idea of the new TV contract. Having SDSU on-board will give them a contract at least double what they would have had. The Aztecs are real happy they aren't floundering around looking at the WAC or Big Sky. Both sies benefit. As far as the Aztecs being good for 2 years. That is a joke. The Aztecs have dominated the MWC for 7 years - read my sig.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 14, 2012 11:13:45 GMT -8
just the facts ma'am, nothing but the facts. My response was meant for the OP on this thread. Big Daddy Pimp Aztecs? that's a laugh. Memo to Gaucho, et al: FreshToDeath is to the Aztec community as Al Sharpton is to the Civil Rights Movement, The Spice Girls are to the music community, Police Academy 6 (etc) is to fine cinema......you get my drift. duly noted. *puts note away for future reference*
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 14, 2012 11:38:06 GMT -8
What are you smoking? You really think SDSU is similar to members of the BW? SDSU has moved to a completely different level the last 6 years. There is a reason the MWC has been one of the top conferences in basketball in the U.S. SDSU is a big part of the reason for such a high rating. The BW is a gym league in basketball. SDSU is a top 20 school that can compete with the best teams in the nation. SDSU is a basketball and football school. The BW has no football and is extremely weak in hoops. Other than LBSU and UCSB, it is a basketball wasteland. 1. I only go for the good stuff. and yes, you are similar to members of the BW - culturally speaking. After all, you were a founding member. 2. UNLV, SDSU and New Mexico has carried the MWC conference well. Colorado State has earned props too. Just don't mention Utah, TCU or Air Force of the last six years or so And please remind me again how many nba draft picks MWC members produced this year. 3. Even without football, the BW has done quite well in this latest round of conference realignment. No Aztec homers can deny that. Stability does matter too. Meanwhile, the FBS WAC is on life support and is now reduced to praying for Utah Valley, Bakersfield and maybe Sac State to be its saviors. Ironic, isn't it? now comes this little story: Dallas Baptist is set to leave the WAC for the Missouri Valley as a baseball-only affiliate. That can't be good for the WAC's image www.courierpress.com/news/2012/aug/13/no-headline---dallasbaptist/
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 14, 2012 11:53:30 GMT -8
What are you smoking? You really think SDSU is similar to members of the BW? SDSU has moved to a completely different level the last 6 years. There is a reason the MWC has been one of the top conferences in basketball in the U.S. SDSU is a big part of the reason for such a high rating. The BW is a gym league in basketball. SDSU is a top 20 school that can compete with the best teams in the nation. SDSU is a basketball and football school. The BW has no football and is extremely weak in hoops. Other than LBSU and UCSB, it is a basketball wasteland. 1. I only go for the good stuff. and yes, you are similar to members of the BW - culturally speaking. After all, you were a founding member. 2. UNLV, SDSU and New Mexico has carried the MWC conference well. Colorado State has earned props too. Just don't mention Utah, TCU or Air Force of the last six years or so And please remind me again how many nba draft picks MWC members produced this year. 3. Even without football, the BW has done quite well in this latest round of conference realignment. No Aztec homers can deny that. Stability does matter too. Meanwhile, the FBS WAC is on life support and is now reduced to praying for Utah Valley, Bakersfield and maybe Sac State to be its saviors. Ironic, isn't it? now comes this little story: Dallas Baptist is set to leave the WAC for the Missouri Valley as a baseball-only affiliate. That can't be good for the WAC's image www.courierpress.com/news/2012/aug/13/no-headline---dallasbaptist/ Man, you're milking that item number two for all it's worth aren't you? (blind squirrel and nuts come to mind here). I'm sure we'll see Kawhi-like productivity out of Orlando Johnson this year?? Perhaps I'll be heading to Vegas to lay some $ on the Pacers' championship run.
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 14, 2012 11:55:04 GMT -8
Funny, I thought with this crowd, that last example may have been a little iffy. Sharpton has indeed redeemed himself somewhat the last few years, but he's still considered a firebrand by many. Spice Girls.........I won't go there. COME AT HER, BRO. I can see the musical talent just oozing out from under that black dress.
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Post by RB Aztec on Aug 14, 2012 11:58:20 GMT -8
What are you smoking? You really think SDSU is similar to members of the BW? SDSU has moved to a completely different level the last 6 years. There is a reason the MWC has been one of the top conferences in basketball in the U.S. SDSU is a big part of the reason for such a high rating. The BW is a gym league in basketball. SDSU is a top 20 school that can compete with the best teams in the nation. SDSU is a basketball and football school. The BW has no football and is extremely weak in hoops. Other than LBSU and UCSB, it is a basketball wasteland. 1. I only go for the good stuff. and yes, you are similar to members of the BW - culturally speaking. After all, you were a founding member. Uuhhh...How many years ago was that? Times have changed. SDSU has a big time Division I winning culture. You just don't see that in BW basketball. Try going to an Aztec game in Viejas sometime. Oh, forget that....all the games are sold out for the entire season so you can't go watch our Top 20 team and the Show. Welcome to the present. Culturally, we don't share much with the BW.
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Post by Azthetic on Aug 14, 2012 12:01:00 GMT -8
TrollToDeath throws out a typical b.s. thread and everyone jumps all over it and rehashes a bunch of crap.
Ignore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2012 12:27:45 GMT -8
TrollToDeath throws out a typical b.s. thread and everyone jumps all over it and rehashes a bunch of crap. Ignore. This. To equate him to Sharpton is to diss Big Al.
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Post by aztec70 on Aug 14, 2012 12:35:36 GMT -8
The OP has it backwards. We, LB, SB, all need to be pulling the rest of the conference up. The no good reason the Big West could could not be a very good basketball conference down the road. They are good in other sports, some better than us.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 14, 2012 12:43:00 GMT -8
1. I only go for the good stuff. and yes, you are similar to members of the BW - culturally speaking. After all, you were a founding member. Uuhhh...How many years ago was that? Times have changed. SDSU has a big time Division I winning culture. You just don't see that in BW basketball. Try going to an Aztec game in Viejas sometime. Oh, forget that....all the games are sold out for the entire season so you can't go watch our Top 20 team and the Show. Welcome to the present. Culturally, we don't share much with the BW. I've made a couple appearances at Viejas. '07 vs Sam Houston State, '08 vs us. Crowds were good but I don't remember those being sellouts. Why are we not so similar? is it the CSU vs UC thing?? I've always believed UCSB and SDSU were similar, at least in terms of the student bodies having a laid back attitude. I did not know that SDSU's two tournament wins all-time (both in one year) were so different from our one, Fullerton's two (also in the same year), Pacific's four, and Long Beach's seven. Nor did I know that SDSU's past and present one-and-done history were dissimilar. But I'll play along since I am a guest here. but if you want to talk about the present - UCSB had more NBA draft picks in 2012 than the entire MWC put together. That recent enough for you?
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Post by The Oracle on Aug 14, 2012 13:04:14 GMT -8
Uuhhh...How many years ago was that? Times have changed. SDSU has a big time Division I winning culture. You just don't see that in BW basketball. Try going to an Aztec game in Viejas sometime. Oh, forget that....all the games are sold out for the entire season so you can't go watch our Top 20 team and the Show. Welcome to the present. Culturally, we don't share much with the BW. I've made a couple appearances at Viejas. '07 vs Sam Houston State, '08 vs us. Crowds were good but I don't remember those being sellouts. Why are we not so similar? is it the CSU vs UC thing?? I've always believed UCSB and SDSU were similar, at least in terms of the student bodies having a laid back attitude. I did not know that SDSU's two tournament wins all-time (both in one year) were so different from our one, Fullerton's two (also in the same year), Pacific's four, and Long Beach's seven. Nor did I know that SDSU's past and present one-and-done history were dissimilar. But I'll play along since I am a guest here. but if you want to talk about the present - UCSB had more NBA draft picks in 2012 than the entire MWC put together. That recent enough for you? jdgaucho logic: - UCSB hoops is better than every team that didn't have a player drafted last year
- State currently has a better volleyball team than UCSB because State won a Championship and UCSB has not
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Post by aztech on Aug 14, 2012 13:13:02 GMT -8
I've made a couple appearances at Viejas. '07 vs Sam Houston State, '08 vs us. Crowds were good but I don't remember those being sellouts. Why are we not so similar? is it the CSU vs UC thing?? I've always believed UCSB and SDSU were similar, at least in terms of the student bodies having a laid back attitude. I did not know that SDSU's two tournament wins all-time (both in one year) were so different from our one, Fullerton's two (also in the same year), Pacific's four, and Long Beach's seven. Nor did I know that SDSU's past and present one-and-done history were dissimilar. But I'll play along since I am a guest here. but if you want to talk about the present - UCSB had more NBA draft picks in 2012 than the entire MWC put together. That recent enough for you?Hey, we have a shitload that are in the NFL too, but all that bought us was worthless bragging rights. The plan is to have more quality players on a given team, not a smattering over time. The former is where we think our BB is at present. Are you similar?
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 14, 2012 13:13:37 GMT -8
I've made a couple appearances at Viejas. '07 vs Sam Houston State, '08 vs us. Crowds were good but I don't remember those being sellouts. Why are we not so similar? is it the CSU vs UC thing?? I've always believed UCSB and SDSU were similar, at least in terms of the student bodies having a laid back attitude. I did not know that SDSU's two tournament wins all-time (both in one year) were so different from our one, Fullerton's two (also in the same year), Pacific's four, and Long Beach's seven. Nor did I know that SDSU's past and present one-and-done history were dissimilar. But I'll play along since I am a guest here. but if you want to talk about the present - UCSB had more NBA draft picks in 2012 than the entire MWC put together. That recent enough for you? jdgaucho logic: - UCSB hoops is better than every team that didn't have a player drafted last year
not even close. i'm just pouring ice water on some people who need a cold dose of the truth. plus, they wanted the present so I provided them with a present fact.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 14, 2012 13:20:42 GMT -8
Hey, we have a shitload that are in the NFL too, but all that bought us was worthless bragging rights. The plan is to have more quality players on a given team, not a smattering over time. The former is where we think our BB is at present. Are you similar? This +1 Who knows? we had one draft pick and two others invited by the Kings and Lakers to summer league. Pretty sure UCSB has never done anything like this before - three players from one team being tabbed by the NBA. This is kinda new territory for us. I don't know where we go from here but I believe that our recent results combined with Long Beach's revival and SDSU's recent success (methinks we'll make a three-headed monster) and OJ's being drafted, we have an opportunity to be similar to SDSU with respect to having several quality players on a given team every year. At the very least, I liked that UCSB entered the Marcus Lee sweepstakes. They wouldn't have done that a couple years ago. Great question.
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Post by RB Aztec on Aug 14, 2012 13:57:53 GMT -8
jdgaucho logic: - UCSB hoops is better than every team that didn't have a player drafted last year
not even close. i'm just pouring ice water on some people who need a cold dose of the truth. plus, they wanted the present so I provided them with a present fact. Try providing a present fact that actually matters. From top to bottom, the Aztecs are one of the best basketball teams in the U.S. From top to bottom, the BW is one of the worst basketball conferences in the U.S. The addition of SDSU, Boise, and Hawaii will definitely improve the top part of the conference, but the dead weight below that destroys the RPI of the conference. I am glad you were able to attend some Viejas games a few years ago, but we saw a remarkable change in the crowd sizes and excitement level in the last 2-3 years. The level of recruits coming to SDSU now is insane. Every game now sells out. BTW, we have a Division I arena, not a gym.
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