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Post by kozy on Aug 28, 2012 10:49:53 GMT -8
Begg's 2011 highlights. What am I missing? Why did we offer? An interior lineman? He is just a straight ahead guy. Nothing to write home about. www.youtube.com/watch?v=do_dPaC5V0g
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Post by myownwords on Aug 28, 2012 11:47:24 GMT -8
I'm not sure why we are filling 4 pages of chat about a guy who's gone.
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 28, 2012 12:58:03 GMT -8
I'm not sure why we are filling 4 pages of chat about a guy who's gone. Thanks for contributing.
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Post by montyismyhomie on Aug 28, 2012 13:06:53 GMT -8
I'm not sure why we are filling 4 pages of chat about a guy who's gone. because it proves a point that you don't agree with...
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Post by myownwords on Aug 28, 2012 13:26:56 GMT -8
I'm not sure why we are filling 4 pages of chat about a guy who's gone. because it proves a point that you don't agree with... Okay, I'll bite, what?
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Post by montyismyhomie on Aug 28, 2012 13:29:32 GMT -8
because it proves a point that you don't agree with... Okay, I'll bite, what? you clearly didn't bother to read the last page or two of the thread...
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 28, 2012 13:39:21 GMT -8
because it proves a point that you don't agree with... Okay, I'll bite, what? We're glad he de-commited because he's an average HS player on a great team.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 28, 2012 16:08:36 GMT -8
We're glad he de-commited because he's an average HS player on a great team. That begs the question: WHY did we offer in the first place?
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Post by spgonzo on Aug 28, 2012 20:54:26 GMT -8
We're glad he de-commited because he's an average HS player on a great team. That begs the question: WHY did we offer in the first place? The San Diego Matt Bush Syndrom. They thought he was signable.
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Post by k5james on Aug 29, 2012 5:36:07 GMT -8
We're glad he de-commited because he's an average HS player on a great team. That begs the question: WHY did we offer in the first place? Because he had some really good camps in the off season.
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Post by kozy on Aug 29, 2012 5:51:54 GMT -8
Camps didn't transfer into first game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 6:11:11 GMT -8
I have no quarrel wth the kid except the bs about the dream school and the glove thrown to him by an aztec player et all. He is a SUn Devil now. WE should close this thread it makes us look like idiots. I think he will be a good olineman for them.,we have plenty.
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Post by k5james on Aug 29, 2012 6:12:26 GMT -8
Camps didn't transfer into first game. Yep, that's the risks you take offering a camp player. It looks like the staff may have dodged a bullet on this one. Brophy has a solid OL though so we'll see.
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Post by spgonzo on Aug 29, 2012 6:21:27 GMT -8
Camps didn't transfer into first game. No doubt. At Big Man or Lineman camps there are no pads worn and the D-Line usually dominates the O-Line due to the nature of the 1 on 1 drills. The O-Lineman is on an island moving backwards or laterally. The D-Lineman should win about 75% of the reps in those situations. It is hard to gauge how it will translate to the field, as was evident in this case.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 29, 2012 7:13:20 GMT -8
Camps didn't transfer into first game. No doubt. At Big Man or Lineman camps there are no pads worn and the D-Line usually dominates the O-Line due to the nature of the 1 on 1 drills. The O-Lineman is on an island moving backwards or laterally. The D-Lineman should win about 75% of the reps in those situations. It is hard to gauge how it will translate to the field, as was evident in this case. Then are the camps even a good thing? Kind of calls them into question, yes?
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Post by k5james on Aug 29, 2012 7:20:14 GMT -8
No doubt. At Big Man or Lineman camps there are no pads worn and the D-Line usually dominates the O-Line due to the nature of the 1 on 1 drills. The O-Lineman is on an island moving backwards or laterally. The D-Lineman should win about 75% of the reps in those situations. It is hard to gauge how it will translate to the field, as was evident in this case. Then are the camps even a good thing? Kind of calls them into question, yes? No, you can still see their footwork and athleticism. You just have to make sure they have game film to back up what they showed at camp. It's just A tool, not THE tool.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 29, 2012 7:44:02 GMT -8
Then are the camps even a good thing? Kind of calls them into question, yes? No, you can still see their footwork and athleticism. You just have to make sure they have game film to back up what they showed at camp. It's just A tool, not THE tool. Well put.
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Post by spgonzo on Aug 29, 2012 8:30:13 GMT -8
Then are the camps even a good thing? Kind of calls them into question, yes? No, you can still see their footwork and athleticism. You just have to make sure they have game film to back up what they showed at camp. It's just A tool, not THE tool. 7 on 7 camps or tournaments are a much better tool for evaluating skilled players. They are much more like game situations than lineman camps. A dominant player in these types of setting usually translates to the field as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2012 8:34:58 GMT -8
We're glad he de-commited because he's an average HS player on a great team. That begs the question: WHY did we offer in the first place? Actually, it Beggs the question. BTW, Todd Graham recruited like a mutha at Tulsa so it's not good news that he left Pitt for ASU. And Rich Rodriguez ain't exactly a slouch recruiter, either. So we may be moving up to the BE next year, but we're still going to lose when we go up against the Arizona schools for a kid. But note to the uninformed. The longer UCLA is bad, the better it is for us.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 29, 2012 8:36:20 GMT -8
No, you can still see their footwork and athleticism. You just have to make sure they have game film to back up what they showed at camp. It's just A tool, not THE tool. 7 on 7 camps or tournaments are a much better tool for evaluating skilled players. They are much more like game situations than lineman camps. A dominant player in these types of setting usually translates to the field as well. Good insight, thanks.
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