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Post by AztecBill on Aug 26, 2010 12:18:55 GMT -8
The Padres have few days off done the stretch. I think they will start Cory Luebke and treat it like it was an off day. They will move Latos back and give the pitchers Latos doesn't "jump" an extra day off. Cory Luebke's last two starts in "AAA" were both 6 innings and he gave up only 3 hits in each game. He is a lefty so he can be spotted against teams that don't fare well against lefties and Latos can be moved to face a better pitcher - like he was moved to face Oswalt on Friday. Cory Luebke will be used toward the end of the season to help set the pitching rotation for the playoffs.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2010 9:11:56 GMT -8
Wednesday night Luebke pitched 8 shutout innings.
8 Innings
0 Runs
5 Hits
0 Walks
4 Ks
This lowered his "AAA" ERA to 2.97 over 9 starts after having a 2.40 ERA in "AA" in 8 starts.
Cory is a 25 year old, 6'4", left hander from Ohio State.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2010 9:18:27 GMT -8
I bet he'll be in the starting rotation next year. Garland and/or Correia will not be here.
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Post by aztectom***** on Aug 27, 2010 9:39:11 GMT -8
Garland needs to be back
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2010 9:43:34 GMT -8
I bet he'll be in the starting rotation next year. Garland and/or Correia will not be here. Garland and the Padres have a 6.75M contract with a mutual buyout option 600K if the Padres declines. 300K if Garland declines. The Padres are paying him $4.7 million this year. So next year he would cost the Padres $6.15 Million since the other 600K is a sunk cost. I suspect they will not decline. But it depends on the market. They could also decline and resign him for less. The Dodgers and Garland had a similar contract last year. $10 million contract with a $2.5 million buyout. The Dodgers declined. That means they let him go when they could have had him for $7.5 million more. |
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Post by aztectom***** on Aug 27, 2010 9:45:46 GMT -8
They should decline, Garland isn't worth 20 % of the payroll
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 27, 2010 9:50:45 GMT -8
Pretty sure 6 million is not 20 percent of the payroll. Garland has a 3.25 ERA. Really solid.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 27, 2010 9:52:58 GMT -8
They should decline, Garland isn't worth 20 % of the payroll He wouldn't be. It would only be 16% of our opening day payroll this year and the payroll won't be $39 million next year. An interesting free agent next year is Aaron Harang. He has been good but has issues this year. He will be looking to sign a one year contract to get his value back up. He is from San Diego and San Diego State and Petco Park is great for a one year "get your value back up" year. |
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Post by aztectom***** on Aug 27, 2010 10:23:44 GMT -8
Aaron Harang is just another list of a pitcher Dusty Baker ruined
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Post by joshjones1 on Sept 2, 2010 12:22:35 GMT -8
Aaron Harang is just another list of a pitcher Dusty Baker ruined That's not true at all, Tom. Harang's issues can't be put on Dusty, who is most likely your NL manager of the year. You're way off. Baker gets pegged for managing Prior and Wood, but many would argue that mechanics played the role in Priors demise, and Wood was pitching a large workload prior to Baker arriving. Anyways...as for Harang, he threw over 220 innings three years in a row, from 2005-2007. He started to pitch much more poorly after that. Baker wasn't even hired in Cincy until the 2008 season. Harang hasn't had health issues....at least not arm related. He has made at least 25 starts the last two seasons, and only missed time this year because of back spasms, he'll still finish with 22-23 starts. His issue has been control/location from what I have read. Or, he could have shoulder or elbow fatigue and is trying to pitch through it. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6936 |
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Post by joshjones1 on Sept 2, 2010 12:38:09 GMT -8
They should decline, Garland isn't worth 20 % of the payroll He wouldn't be. It would only be 16% of our opening day payroll this year and the payroll won't be $39 million next year. An interesting free agent next year is Aaron Harang. He has been good but has issues this year. He will be looking to sign a one year contract to get his value back up. He is from San Diego and San Diego State and Petco Park is great for a one year "get your value back up" year. That would be a great idea, I'd take the former Patrick Henry High product. Could be a good career change for him. |
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 2, 2010 13:15:44 GMT -8
Aaron Harang is just another list of a pitcher Dusty Baker ruined That's not true at all, Tom. Harang's issues can't be put on Dusty, who is most likely your NL manager of the year. You're way off. Baker gets pegged for managing Prior and Wood, but many would argue that mechanics played the role in Priors demise, and Wood was pitching a large workload prior to Baker arriving. Anyways...as for Harang, he threw over 220 innings three years in a row, from 2005-2007. He started to pitch much more poorly after that. Baker wasn't even hired in Cincy until the 2008 season. Harang hasn't had health issues....at least not arm related. He has made at least 25 starts the last two seasons, and only missed time this year because of back spasms, he'll still finish with 22-23 starts. His issue has been control/location from what I have read. Or, he could have shoulder or elbow fatigue and is trying to pitch through it. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6936IMO Josh, and from what I've heard from reputable people, you're right and wrong at least pertaining to Prior. It ABSOLUTELY was due to pitch count rather than innings pitched, or mechanics. His pitch count in the playoffs was insane, which of course was very late in the season. They used and abused that guy like no other. Dusty was just doing what the big boys up top wanted him to do, even though Dusty wanted to be the first manager in eons to win a world series for the Cubs. I think he had NO problem with the idea of Prior being a lame duck workhorse that late in the season, even though he showed signs that it was not in his best interest to do so. They, the Cubs, just didn't give a s**t at the time. To bad for Prior. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Sept 2, 2010 14:58:20 GMT -8
That's not true at all, Tom. Harang's issues can't be put on Dusty, who is most likely your NL manager of the year. You're way off. Baker gets pegged for managing Prior and Wood, but many would argue that mechanics played the role in Priors demise, and Wood was pitching a large workload prior to Baker arriving. Anyways...as for Harang, he threw over 220 innings three years in a row, from 2005-2007. He started to pitch much more poorly after that. Baker wasn't even hired in Cincy until the 2008 season. Harang hasn't had health issues....at least not arm related. He has made at least 25 starts the last two seasons, and only missed time this year because of back spasms, he'll still finish with 22-23 starts. His issue has been control/location from what I have read. Or, he could have shoulder or elbow fatigue and is trying to pitch through it. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6936IMO Josh, and from what I've heard from reputable people, you're right and wrong at least pertaining to Prior. It ABSOLUTELY was due to pitch count rather than innings pitched, or mechanics. His pitch count in the playoffs was insane, which of course was very late in the season. They used and abused that guy like no other. Dusty was just doing what the big boys up top wanted him to do, even though Dusty wanted to be the first manager in eons to win a world series for the Cubs. I think he had NO problem with the idea of Prior being a lame duck workhorse that late in the season, even though he showed signs that it was not in his best interest to do so. They, the Cubs, just didn't give a s**t at the time. To bad for Prior. I don't disagree that contributed. Noted I only said you "could argue" his mechanics, as there have been countless articles and quotes with far more knowledge than I. The workload under Dusty Baker, and also at USC, very well could have been a contributing factor, and I suspect it was. www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/rethinkingpitching/Essays/MarkPriorPitchingMechanics.html |
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Post by joshjones1 on Sept 2, 2010 14:59:38 GMT -8
That's not true at all, Tom. Harang's issues can't be put on Dusty, who is most likely your NL manager of the year. You're way off. Baker gets pegged for managing Prior and Wood, but many would argue that mechanics played the role in Priors demise, and Wood was pitching a large workload prior to Baker arriving. Anyways...as for Harang, he threw over 220 innings three years in a row, from 2005-2007. He started to pitch much more poorly after that. Baker wasn't even hired in Cincy until the 2008 season. Harang hasn't had health issues....at least not arm related. He has made at least 25 starts the last two seasons, and only missed time this year because of back spasms, he'll still finish with 22-23 starts. His issue has been control/location from what I have read. Or, he could have shoulder or elbow fatigue and is trying to pitch through it. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6936IMO Josh, and from what I've heard from reputable people, you're right and wrong at least pertaining to Prior. It ABSOLUTELY was due to pitch count rather than innings pitched, or mechanics. His pitch count in the playoffs was insane, which of course was very late in the season. They used and abused that guy like no other. Dusty was just doing what the big boys up top wanted him to do, even though Dusty wanted to be the first manager in eons to win a world series for the Cubs. I think he had NO problem with the idea of Prior being a lame duck workhorse that late in the season, even though he showed signs that it was not in his best interest to do so. They, the Cubs, just didn't give a s**t at the time. To bad for Prior. What do you mean when you say they treated him like a "lameduck" workhorse though? Doesn't lameduck imply, on the way out? Correct me if I was wrong, Prior was under club control for the next couple of seasons after that playoff-run season, no? |
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Post by AztecTom on Sept 3, 2010 20:05:35 GMT -8
Not to impressive tonight.
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