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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 9:41:27 GMT -8
Boy this could be really embarrassing. Having Chase Headley or Yonder Alonso take up a spot on the All Star team would make us look pretty effing bad but what better alternative do we have?
It's a shame Street is on the DL because he would have been the safe, realistic option.
We better hope Edinson Volquez continues to pitch well to justify a selection because otherwise we could be looking at a mid reliever selection.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 14:28:20 GMT -8
Volquez or Headley, for sure....at this point. At least Headley is "good".
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Post by AztecBill on May 17, 2012 14:41:37 GMT -8
Volquez or Headley, for sure....at this point. At least Headley is "good". Headley usually hits very well on the road. With his new found power and a lot of road games coming up, his numbers may look pretty good come July.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2012 20:45:47 GMT -8
Volquez or Headley, for sure....at this point. At least Headley is "good". Headley usually hits very well on the road. With his new found power and a lot of road games coming up, his numbers may look pretty good come July. I like Chase Headley. I don't think of him as an All-Star necessarily, but that's a wide definition anyways.
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Post by jhonka34 on May 17, 2012 23:24:38 GMT -8
Headley usually hits very well on the road. With his new found power and a lot of road games coming up, his numbers may look pretty good come July. I like Chase Headley. I don't think of him as an All-Star necessarily, but that's a wide definition anyways. Better than Rondell White
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 14:20:05 GMT -8
I like Chase Headley. I don't think of him as an All-Star necessarily, but that's a wide definition anyways. Better than Rondell White I don't think he is. Rondell had a solid year for the Padres when he was an all star. Nothing amazing.. but he was better than Chase.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 31, 2012 18:16:36 GMT -8
Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 18:41:12 GMT -8
Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history. Wow!!! I totally agree with you.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 1, 2012 14:53:38 GMT -8
Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history. Will Venable on the road.347 BA .410 OBP .640 SLG I always thought Venable could be a great hitter. Too bad Petco is such a hitters nightmare. It is hard to fairly judge young Padres players when Petco messes with their heads so much and kills their home (and therefore overall) numbers. Headley again is hitting well on the road. Only 9 NL hitters have a higher OPS than what Chase has on the road this year. That is after last year having an OPS on the road that would be good for 17th, if he did it overall. That was powered by an OBP that would be good for 3rd. Petco Park clouds the issue.
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Post by smoketree on Jun 5, 2012 18:18:29 GMT -8
I think Tommy the bat boy will be our representative this year.
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Post by ernieaztec on Jun 5, 2012 20:29:50 GMT -8
Tommy's made a few errors, iono.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 5, 2012 22:38:36 GMT -8
The Padre's 2012 All Star should be Carlos Quentin. He is the only Padre who has resembled a major league all star this year.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2012 7:30:17 GMT -8
Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history. Wow!!! I totally agree with you. He says "worst farm system in baseball" and you agree. Wow. Most analysts rate the Padres the #1 farm team in baseball. People seem to agree with anything negative about the Padres, even if it is totally inane.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 10:20:14 GMT -8
The Padres are the worst team in major league baseball at this point. Winning % wise, and talent level as well. An All-Star? Headley's BA is down to .253, but he does have 7 HR and a solid .796 OPS. Venable has had an "okay" season, certainly not all star caliber.
A pitcher is probably the most logical. Volquez's numbers have gotten a little worse, but he has had a good first two months. Other than him.....shoot...Thatcher has been good but he is a specialist and has limited innings.
Whomever is selected for the Padres.....will likely not be what you would think of as an "All Star", but it is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 10:33:37 GMT -8
May 31, 2012, 7:16pm, aztecmusician wrote: Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history. Wow!!! I totally agree with you. He says "worst farm system in baseball" and you agree. Wow. Most analysts rate the Padres the #1 farm team in baseball. People seem to agree with anything negative about the Padres, even if it is totally inane. Ok Bill, I agree with 97.5% of what he wrote. Is that better I appreciate your loyalty to the Padres. However, you should at least share whatever it is you are on in order to understand any perspective of what you are seeing in regards to that organization.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2012 10:57:52 GMT -8
May 31, 2012, 7:16pm, aztecmusician wrote: Worst team in the majors. None of the young players can hit a lick and the pitching is very average. There is nothing all star about this team, we built them a new stadium and they didn't spend any money, relying on the worst farm system in baseball for their success. This team is going to give the 1971 team a run for worst in franchise history. He says "worst farm system in baseball" and you agree. Wow. Most analysts rate the Padres the #1 farm team in baseball. People seem to agree with anything negative about the Padres, even if it is totally inane. Ok Bill, I agree with 97.5% of what he wrote. Is that better I appreciate your loyalty to the Padres. However, you should at least share whatever it is you are on in order to understand any perspective of what you are seeing in regards to that organization. I just provide balance. It seems most everyone else here is way far to the negative side of things. The Salary sucks because of the divorce - Moores is trying to sell the team to correct that. Minor leagues sucked - but is now rated #1. This year sucks - a lot of that is injuries. I can be negative but I reserve it for things that are actually bad and am open minded about the reasons.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 6, 2012 11:48:51 GMT -8
The Padre's 2012 All Star should be Carlos Quentin. He is the only Padre who has resembled a major league all star this year. He is the only Padre who has resembled a major league all star regular this year. Carlos Quentin has reaffirmed what I have been saying for years. The Padres have a knack to pick up established veterans and give them a second lease on their careers. The past 20 years the Pads have been successful giving second chances to players like Steve Finley, Ken Caminiti, Greg Vaughn, Phil Nevin, Ryan Klesko, Wally Joyner, Adrian Gonzalez (and a host of others). The farm system sucks and it has always sucked. I don't care what Baseball America and the other rags say. The hitting prospects ALWAYS come up to the bigs and whiff. Spend some money and make the franchise competitive.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2012 12:22:08 GMT -8
He is the only Padre who has resembled a major league all star regular this year. Carlos Quentin has reaffirmed what I have been saying for years. The Padres have a knack to pick up established veterans and give them a second lease on their careers. The past 20 years the Pads have been successful giving second chances to players like Steve Finley, Ken Caminiti, Greg Vaughn, Phil Nevin, Ryan Klesko, Wally Joyner, Adrian Gonzalez (and a host of others). The farm system sucks and it has always sucked. I don't care what Baseball America and the other rags say. The hitting prospects ALWAYS come up to the bigs and whiff. Spend some money and make the franchise competitive. The prospects you are talking about came from years our farm system was rated near the bottom. Things will/have change(d).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 14:44:26 GMT -8
Ok Bill, I agree with 97.5% of what he wrote. Is that better I appreciate your loyalty to the Padres. However, you should at least share whatever it is you are on in order to understand any perspective of what you are seeing in regards to that organization. I just provide balance. It seems most everyone else here is way far to the negative side of things. The Salary sucks because of the divorce - Moores is trying to sell the team to correct that. Minor leagues sucked - but is now rated #1. This year sucks - a lot of that is injuries. I can be negative but I reserve it for things that are actually bad and am open minded about the reasons. Injuries or not, the personnel on the 25-man roster is atrocious. Worst in the majors, or close to it. It's not about being negative. It's being realistic to the fact that this team is practically unwatchable, and there's no certainty of it getting better anytime soon. You love to talk about the kids coming up, and you have for years. But half the time you're full of $#!+, Bill. Excuse me for being frank, but it's true. A few years ago it was Dacker, Forsythe, Antonelli, etc. Now you have replaced them with new kids that you're sure will be the saviors. When the Padres show they can draft and develop major league talent, and not just win games at Lake Elsinore, then we'll discuss progress. Until then, the fact remains that this current regime traded a promising young 1B who is KILLING AAA pitching, for a setup man and an outfielder with a weak resume. They did NOT solicit the best available package of players, that's obvious. It was a deal brokered by members of a baseball fraternity club. What's particularly frustrating is it has been proven beyond a doubt that bullpens can be built on the cheap, every year. You don't trade prospects like Anthony Rizzo for Andrew Cashner and Kyung Ma-Na. Hopefully the Cincinatti deal works out, I do like that one. But regarding this "#1 farm system"....we'll see what it produces at the big league level. The fans are looking for bankable future stars, like what KC is showing with Hosmer and Moustakas. Not just "quality depth". Let's hope there are some legit all stars on their way up, this franchise desperately needs them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2012 14:57:13 GMT -8
He is the only Padre who has resembled a major league all star regular this year. Carlos Quentin has reaffirmed what I have been saying for years. The Padres have a knack to pick up established veterans and give them a second lease on their careers. The past 20 years the Pads have been successful giving second chances to players like Steve Finley, Ken Caminiti, Greg Vaughn, Phil Nevin, Ryan Klesko, Wally Joyner, Adrian Gonzalez (and a host of others). The farm system sucks and it has always sucked. I don't care what Baseball America and the other rags say. The hitting prospects ALWAYS come up to the bigs and whiff. Spend some money and make the franchise competitive. I don't get the reference, or at least the wording, with all due respect. Caminiti was 31 or 32 when we traded for him and coming off a fine season. Finley was an accomplished major leaguer, and like Caminiti, many of the MLB teams would have been interested in his services. It was a good trade on the Padres part. Not a "second chance" for the players. And, it was when Lucchino was running the front office as Chief Executive, as well as representing a significant increase in the team payroll....which you have to respect. www.nytimes.com/1994/12/29/sports/baseball-padres-and-astros-make-a-12-player-swap.htmlGreg Vaughn was coming off a monster season for Milwaukee (31/95) when he was brought to San Diego. Another great trade, but I had read that Vaughn was clashing with ownership over his desire for a new contract. He was certainly not an undesirable, though he struggled his first two years in SD before he blew up in '98 (PED user? He has the benefit of the doubt). Carlos Quentin simply didn't have alot of suitors in the trade market due to his injury history, but he's still making $7M this season. So far, the trade looks good, we have to agree there. It seems like alot of these players were just on their second uniform (or third), which happens for a multitude of reasons. They weren't exactly reclamation projects or needing a second chance.
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