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Post by k5james on Apr 5, 2012 10:28:18 GMT -8
Alex Howard I understand is about 6'200 now he has run a 10.88 hundred and a 10.94. If you saw his tape and is stats he is definitely far beyond Cormier. He breaks away easily in his game film. Besides we already have one Pierre on the team,two would makes us retreat. That's the point I was trying to make. Anyone who says this kid is better than any other running back on our roster hasn't seen our running backs play. Hell, Brandon Wright is 5-11, 190 and he ran a sub 11 100 as well...
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Post by sdfootballfan on Apr 5, 2012 14:20:01 GMT -8
Alex Howard I understand is about 6'200 now he has run a 10.88 hundred and a 10.94. If you saw his tape and is stats he is definitely far beyond Cormier. He breaks away easily in his game film. Besides we already have one Pierre on the team,two would makes us retreat. That's the point I was trying to make. Anyone who says this kid is better than any other running back on our roster hasn't seen our running backs play. Hell, Brandon Wright is 5-11, 190 and he ran a sub 11 100 as well... Football speed > Track speed What part of that is so difficult to understand? Seriously, just stop it already.
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Post by k5james on Apr 5, 2012 14:29:18 GMT -8
That's the point I was trying to make. Anyone who says this kid is better than any other running back on our roster hasn't seen our running backs play. Hell, Brandon Wright is 5-11, 190 and he ran a sub 11 100 as well... Football speed > Track speed What part of that is so difficult to understand? Seriously, just stop it already. Football player with track speed > Football player without track speed Listen man, I know you have a hard on for this guy for some reason but you're out of your depth. You are looking stupid trying to argue that a guy who is measurably faster than another guy ISN'T faster. If measurable speed was worthless they wouldn't run the 40 at the combine.
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Post by coolethan on Apr 5, 2012 14:49:30 GMT -8
Yes please stop James you obviously haven't read where SDFF ATTENDED Madison HS. There's no way he could be incorrect.
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Post by sdfootballfan on Apr 5, 2012 14:56:49 GMT -8
Yes please stop James you obviously haven't read where SDFF ATTENDED Madison HS. There's no way he could be incorrect. I only attended my freshman year. I don't judge players by timed speed because you never know how accurate they are. I judge what I see on the field because at the end of the day thats all that matters.
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Post by badfish on Apr 5, 2012 16:11:52 GMT -8
You 2 are at it again?!?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2012 16:48:11 GMT -8
That's the point I was trying to make. Anyone who says this kid is better than any other running back on our roster hasn't seen our running backs play. Hell, Brandon Wright is 5-11, 190 and he ran a sub 11 100 as well... Football speed > Track speed What part of that is so difficult to understand? Seriously, just stop it already. I think our coaches know what to do when it comes to recruiting. I have seen very few players who were fast enough 100 m who were slow on the football field. If you were fast athlete that's going to translate into baseball, football, basketball and any other sport where speed is involved. Staff is also seen the tapes of Pierre and they have decided he is not better than the tailbacks we have now. If they be the guy is a lousy blocker, who knows. All I know is we're up to our eyeballs in quality running backs. There is a lot more playing running back and just speed of course. There's the ability to use your blocking make quick reads,balance power and so on. Also there's a little matter of academics, and we don't know anything about who is a good student who is not. A lot of football players do not run track they play baseball. I play rugby for many years and I can tell you that speed on the track is speed in rugby. Where speed really becomes a killer is one you have blistering speed like Reggie Bush,Shane Vereen, Jahvid best,Bob Hayes. I mean like 10.5 speed. When your that fast your just damn fast.
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Post by fowl on Apr 5, 2012 22:30:55 GMT -8
How fast you can run in a straight line doesn't have anything to do with how fast you can get to the endzone while avoiding tacklers and trying not to run into your blockers. They say that at the combine every year. I'm talking football not track and field. The guy who is faster on the track is faster on the field. It's simple physics. To say otherwise is simply obtuse.
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Post by sdfootballfan on Apr 5, 2012 22:33:39 GMT -8
How fast you can run in a straight line doesn't have anything to do with how fast you can get to the endzone while avoiding tacklers and trying not to run into your blockers. They say that at the combine every year. I'm talking football not track and field. The guy who is faster on the track is faster on the field. It's simple physics. To say otherwise is simply obtuse. Ok
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Post by warhawks2013 on Apr 7, 2012 9:54:59 GMT -8
In his first track meet this year, Pierre pulled his hamstring but before that he was leading the way in the hundred by at least 6-7m, he pulled it at about 70m, the guy who would of ended in second place ran a 10.9 100m. that means pierre would have been in the 10.6/10.7. the kid is Fast. and NO SDSU has not shown any interest in one of the best under the radar kids. He loves san diego and sdsu. but that might just not be a good fit for him. Arizona, UCLA and Boise St all run a similar offense to what he is in now so that is why he is interested in them. he also ran a 4.44 in his 40 about a month ago. SPEED is not an issue for this kid. He has great vision, he sets up his blocks perfectly and out runs defenders. Pierre = Hilman, and he might even be better by the time it is all set and done.
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Post by badfish on Apr 7, 2012 10:52:59 GMT -8
you must be a family or coach of some sort I assume? I wonder why SDSU hasn't shown interest in him.
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Post by k5james on Apr 7, 2012 17:54:22 GMT -8
In his first track meet this year, Pierre pulled his hamstring but before that he was leading the way in the hundred by at least 6-7m, he pulled it at about 70m, the guy who would of ended in second place ran a 10.9 100m. that means pierre would have been in the 10.6/10.7. the kid is Fast. and NO SDSU has not shown any interest in one of the best under the radar kids. He loves san diego and sdsu. but that might just not be a good fit for him. Arizona, UCLA and Boise St all run a similar offense to what he is in now so that is why he is interested in them. he also ran a 4.44 in his 40 about a month ago. SPEED is not an issue for this kid. He has great vision, he sets up his blocks perfectly and out runs defenders. Pierre = Hilman, and he might even be better by the time it is all set and done. I know you're excited for your son/brother/nephew/cousin, but projecting times like that doesn't work. All we can go by is what times he's actually recorded. As to the three teams you mentioned running similar offenses to what he runs now? If you're advising him, I'd encourage you to do some research. You named three schools with three drastically different offensive systems. Arizona hired Rich Rodriguez, who is a spread option guy, UCLA hired Jim Mora, who hired Noel Mazzone, who is a straight up spread guy and Chris Peterson runs a little bit of everything but is more pro style.
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Post by monty on Apr 7, 2012 18:54:50 GMT -8
This is equivocation. when you say football speed you aren't talking about speed at all, it's talking about instincts, routes, vision, etc.
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Post by warhawks2013 on Apr 9, 2012 8:02:25 GMT -8
They all will be running some sort of a Zone Offense out of the spread next year(Words directly from all three head coaches). Which is what he currently runs now. And no i am not a family member or coach of the kid, just a big fan. He is a very respectful young man, great team player, and a very hard working football guy.
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Post by k5james on Apr 9, 2012 8:47:03 GMT -8
They all will be running some sort of a Zone Offense out of the spread next year(Words directly from all three head coaches). Which is what he currently runs now. And no i am not a family member or coach of the kid, just a big fan. He is a very respectful young man, great team player, and a very hard working football guy. Arizona definitely will run zone read stuff as that is a Rodriguez staple. UCLA "may" do it since they have "pistol" personnel but Mazzone hasn't run it much to date. As for Boise, it would be a HUGE change for them seeing as I don't think they've ever run any zone read stuff, other than goal line veer stuff. Some coaches will tell a kid anything to get him to their school. I'd advise you to get some tape of ASU and BSU from last year and Michigan from a few years ago. Those are the offenses the three schools you mentioned are more than likely going to run...
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Post by warhawks2013 on Apr 9, 2012 8:57:38 GMT -8
I said ZONE, not Zone Read. A one cut and go type of zone. Arizona will definitely run the Zone read. and UCLA will run a little of both Zone and Zone read, which works well with the pistol system. they will definitely pass the hell out of the Ball like at ASU, but they are for sure looking to establish a run game which he could not do at ASU because his O-LINE was a pass first unit. A lot of their recruiting has been for big horses to remove people. BSU also runs a little zone out their I formation and single back looks.
Have you ever seen Pierre play? other than his High light tape.
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Post by k5james on Apr 9, 2012 9:15:57 GMT -8
I said ZONE, not Zone Read. A one cut and go type of zone. Arizona will definitely run the Zone read. and UCLA will run a little of both Zone and Zone read, which works well with the pistol system. they will definitely pass the hell out of the Ball like at ASU, but they are for sure looking to establish a run game which he could not do at ASU because his O-LINE was a pass first unit. A lot of their recruiting has been for big horses to remove people. BSU also runs a little zone out their I formation and single back looks. Have you ever seen Pierre play? other than his High light tape. Ok, you're referring to a zone blocking scheme, gotcha. Yeah, Boise does a lot of that. ASU also did some due to the nature of their spread but UCLA's OL is built for hat on hat blocking. It remains to be seen if those big mauler types they've been recruiting can zone block effectively, which typically requires lighter more athletic guys. SDSU did a bit of zone blocking stuff under Ludwig but since Hoke changed the offense to a more pro style we haven't done a lot of it. No, I've only seen highlight reels of him.
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Post by warhawks2013 on Apr 9, 2012 9:24:20 GMT -8
Come out and see him play next year, the kid is FAST. He is the best running back in San Diego by far. You cant go based of the recruiting profiles because they are all about how many combines you have attended or how many offers you have. Spring ball starts May 15, and by the end he will probably have close to 20 offers, including USC Oregon, Nebraska and other top schools. The only recruiting website i like is 247Sports.com.
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Post by k5james on Apr 9, 2012 9:34:08 GMT -8
Come out and see him play next year, the kid is FAST. He is the best running back in San Diego by far. You cant go based of the recruiting profiles because they are all about how many combines you have attended or how many offers you have. Spring ball starts May 15, and by the end he will probably have close to 20 offers, including USC Oregon, Nebraska and other top schools. The only recruiting website i like is 247Sports.com. I don't typically spend much time watching kids with no interest in SDSU or vice versa. I may go see him play at Valhalla though. As for him being the best in San Diego, I think Baltazar from Eastlake would have something to say about that.
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Post by warhawks2013 on Apr 9, 2012 10:38:21 GMT -8
Talk about no speed at running back. He is not even the best running back at Eastlake. T-Green is better. Ask around, i don't know if you know many High school coaches but they would all probably agree, Pierre was an all league player and all CIF. Him and Owens from Christian were the only Juniors at running back in the all CIF list.
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