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Post by laaztec on Aug 18, 2010 9:59:52 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 10:02:57 GMT -8
gawd I hope not, but it might end up coming to that. This is got me as nervous as a whore in church. Could have huge implications for SDSU.
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 18, 2010 10:09:17 GMT -8
I sure hope not! Talk about taking a step backwards.
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Post by monty on Aug 18, 2010 10:18:15 GMT -8
First, he says it makes financial sense - if we can't get out of the comcast deal, how could they? Actually, wouldn't the tv revenue slightly increase from 9 schools payout to 8; perhaps the deal folds or both agree to tare it up. None of us know the language of the deal, but i'm guessing it'll still be in place and that deal pays more than wac by 2fold, and we could be splitting wiht more people if UNLV goes with us (and then wyo, csu and others would be right behind and we'd be back o some wac 16-esque sitatuion).
Unfortunatlly, i think we will end up back there and that sucks bad.
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Post by Azpire! on Aug 18, 2010 10:22:49 GMT -8
I sure hope not! Talk about taking a step backwards. We took the step backwards ourselves by failing to perform on the field throughout the past decade. No one but ourselves to blame. We can continue to peel back the layers, but the bottom line is past regimes failed to deliver for whatever reasons. The time to pay the price we initially thought may be pushed out a 2-3 years after the dances organized by the PAC10 & Big 12. However, it looks as if the storm is now on SDSU's horizon. Better to choose a home of our own (if it comes down to that...) vs. the hurricane forcing us into a FEMA trailer. That would not be good. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 10:25:02 GMT -8
The good news is, we'll be able to sellout our home games- @mesa College. Thats about all the people that'll want to see La Tech, SJSU, and Idaho.
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Post by monty on Aug 18, 2010 10:26:58 GMT -8
The good news is, we'll be able to sellout our home games- @mesa College. Thats about all the people that'll want to see La Tech, SJSU, and Idaho. My god this is devestating; and to think that a couple months ago we were close to being a big boy conference, now we're in full scramble mode. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 10:29:10 GMT -8
was just thinking that. And it may even get worse considering these economic times. SDSU sans football. The good news is, we'll be able to sellout our home games- @mesa College. Thats about all the people that'll want to see La Tech, SJSU, and Idaho. My god this is devestating; and to think that a couple months ago we were close to being a big boy conference, now we're in full scramble mode. |
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Post by monty on Aug 18, 2010 10:32:10 GMT -8
was just thinking that. And it may even get worse considering these economic times. SDSU sans football. My god this is devestating; and to think that a couple months ago we were close to being a big boy conference, now we're in full scramble mode. It returns as a legitimate option by the end of the decade unless things start to turn around. I'm disgusted with this bull$#!+ |
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Post by azteken on Aug 18, 2010 10:46:10 GMT -8
Sterk should get on the phone with the Big 12 and see if they'd like to add San Diego (and Vegas?) as Big 12 markets. We have more to offer than Waco, TX or Ames, IA.
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Post by Motown Monty on Aug 18, 2010 10:59:56 GMT -8
Sterk should get on the phone with the Big 12 and see if they'd like to add San Diego (and Vegas?) as Big 12 markets. We have more to offer than Waco, TX or Ames, IA. Sounds nice for us (SDSU/UNLV) but that would NEVER happen. Perhaps the Big XII might consider us if both schools weren't doormats in the "vastly inferior" MWC but even that would have been a stretch. I can't imagine a majority of those schools voting to add the likes of San Diego State and UNLV... just don't see it. |
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Post by aztech on Aug 18, 2010 11:24:22 GMT -8
Like some, I'm totally disgusted with this entire issue. It took the starch out of the upcoming season. I will say this. If we're forced to go back to the WAC, we may as well say good-bye in 2011 to Hoke and staff and the effort they put in. They deserve better. I'll have no interest with a lousy lower paid coach and a drop down in quality competition. It'll be back to the old days of small college football.
We (SDSU) are responsible for some of this. Being baggage for over 10 years helped prompt this move. I thought we were finally going to turn the corner and contribute and then this $#!+ comes down. How true it is that SDSU can't win for losing. Thanks Presidents Golding, Day and Weber(earlier) for seeing ahtletics as a nuisance.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 18, 2010 11:31:52 GMT -8
With no BYU, Utah or Boise State in the MWC it makes sense to move back to the WAC. You can bet TCU will bolt right away without those power schools. However, if Boise and TCU stay and we can pick up a Houston and/or UTEP there may reason to stay in the MWC. Dang those damn mormons up in Utah. If Utah and BYU had stayed in was only a matter of time the MWC got AQ status.
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 18, 2010 11:35:31 GMT -8
With no BYU, Utah or Boise State in the MWC it makes sense to move back to the WAC. You can bet TCU will bolt right away without those power schools. However, if Boise and TCU stay and we can pick up a Houston and/or UTEP there may reason to stay in the MWC. Dang those damn mormons up in Utah. If Utah and BYU had stayed in was only a matter of time the MWC got AQ status. F#ck the mormons and there multiple wives! |
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Post by ourtime on Aug 18, 2010 11:39:44 GMT -8
Sterk should get on the phone with the Big 12 and see if they'd like to add San Diego (and Vegas?) as Big 12 markets. We have more to offer than Waco, TX or Ames, IA. Sounds nice for us (SDSU/UNLV) but that would NEVER happen. Perhaps the Big XII might consider us if both schools weren't doormats in the "vastly inferior" MWC but even that would have been a stretch. I can't imagine a majority of those schools voting to add the likes of San Diego State and UNLV... just don't see it. The issue is never about the quality of the team, it's about TV sets. If quality of play mattered Baylor would have been booted a long time ago. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Aug 18, 2010 13:06:55 GMT -8
First, he says it makes financial sense - if we can't get out of the comcast deal, how could they? Actually, wouldn't the tv revenue slightly increase from 9 schools payout to 8; perhaps the deal folds or both agree to tare it up. None of us know the language of the deal, but i'm guessing it'll still be in place and that deal pays more than wac by 2fold, and we could be splitting wiht more people if UNLV goes with us (and then wyo, csu and others would be right behind and we'd be back o some wac 16-esque sitatuion). Unfortunatlly, i think we will end up back there and that sucks bad. That's a joke, there never really was much of a Comcast deal. Look how much exposure The MTN. got in the west. JMO |
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Post by seasonticketholder on Aug 18, 2010 13:15:37 GMT -8
The conference we're in is irrelevant...WAC, Mtn West, whatever...it's about who we're in it with. Some collection of TCU, Boise St, Fresno St., Nevada, UNLV, Houston, SMU, New Mexico, Colorado State, Hawaii, & SDSU...that's a decent collection of both football and basketball (plus BYU) schools whether it's in the WAC or some other conference.
What would be a disaster is ending up back in a conference with San Jose, Idaho, Nm St, La Tech, etc. For someone that doesn't live in San Diego...those games are not worth the trip.
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Post by aztecx on Aug 18, 2010 13:22:25 GMT -8
If Boise and TCU stay and commit to the MWC, then SDSU is not going anywhere.
If Boise wavers and TCU starts looking at other options, the Wac may be the best option for SDSU.
As someone stated above, it is not about the conference, it is about who is in the conference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 13:29:43 GMT -8
If Boise and TCU stay and commit to the MWC, then SDSU is not going anywhere. I wish that were true but I'm not sure. I think Wilner could be on to something in speculating that Charles Reed could put big time pressure on SDSU to bail as a means of helping to save SJSU football. And if that comes to pass, I will be thoroughly pissed at Brady Hoke if he doesn't circle the annual game with SJSU and determine to just thrash the hell out of them in retaliation. |
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Post by monty on Aug 18, 2010 13:33:39 GMT -8
First, he says it makes financial sense - if we can't get out of the comcast deal, how could they? Actually, wouldn't the tv revenue slightly increase from 9 schools payout to 8; perhaps the deal folds or both agree to tare it up. None of us know the language of the deal, but i'm guessing it'll still be in place and that deal pays more than wac by 2fold, and we could be splitting wiht more people if UNLV goes with us (and then wyo, csu and others would be right behind and we'd be back o some wac 16-esque sitatuion). Unfortunatlly, i think we will end up back there and that sucks bad. That's a joke, there never really was much of a Comcast deal. Look how much exposure The MTN. got in the west. JMO Not making a value of good/bad on the tv deal just the raw value which is over 2 million for MWC vs. under 1 million for wac. |
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