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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 13:56:39 GMT -8
Yea it was annouced after the Diamond Head teams were announced. They moved the return game out a season so that we wouldnt have to play each other twice next year. And yes, I think we will still be a top 25 team, so it will be a tough road contest for them in December 2013. Arizona should be absolutely loaded that year though. We will be good enough to win that one at home though. We are only slotted to "potentially" play them in Hawaii next year. We dont get the return game from our home and away until the 2013-14 season. I think we will smack them in the Diamond Head thanks to our veteren team, but the following season AZ will (should) be a top 10 team, but at least that game will be in our building. Thanks, didn't know that. Thought they were coming in next season for the return game. But we should also be very good and potentially top 10 the following year as well.
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Post by ciabounce on Feb 6, 2012 14:01:14 GMT -8
Yea it was annouced after the Diamond Head teams were announced. They moved the return game out a season so that we wouldnt have to play each other twice next year. And yes, I think we will still be a top 25 team, so it will be a tough road contest for them in December 2013. Arizona should be absolutely loaded that year though. We will be good enough to win that one at home though. Thanks, didn't know that. Thought they were coming in next season for the return game. But we should also be very good and potentially top 10 the following year as well. No way of knowing who stays and goes that year, they could very well lose ashley, Turner, and jerrett next year for nba
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Post by AztecTom on Feb 6, 2012 14:02:00 GMT -8
Yea it was annouced after the Diamond Head teams were announced. They moved the return game out a season so that we wouldnt have to play each other twice next year. And yes, I think we will still be a top 25 team, so it will be a tough road contest for them in December 2013. Arizona should be absolutely loaded that year though. We will be good enough to win that one at home though. Thanks, didn't know that. Thought they were coming in next season for the return game. But we should also be very good and potentially top 10 the following year as well. Thanks again, I missed that announcement. Can't wait to see this game in person later this year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 14:09:40 GMT -8
Just my opinion... but I would say that for West Coast recruits, these are the most attractive programs right now, in order. This is how I would rank them if I were a high school hooper in California, anyway. AZ and UCLA are at the top due to both their history/brand and their ability to recruit nationally, not just regionally. Point being, we are now able to get in the mix for almost any west coast kid. This was not the case even 3 years ago.
Arizona UCLA UNLV Washington SDSU CAL Oregon New Mexico Gonzaga USC (LA kids still love em, even though they are a mess)
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Post by aztecnation76 on Feb 6, 2012 18:18:07 GMT -8
I kind of get where the author of this thread is coming from. I'm obviously not suggesting that they should start landing the blue chip, 5 star, McDonalds All-Americans at this point in time that the likes of Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky ect...constantly land. I realize that SDSU does not have the rich history and tradition of the schools. They're not currently at that level yet. However, with that said, with all of the recent success they have put together recently(7 straight 20 plus win seasons, 7 straight post season apperances-Nit/NCAA Tournament-Currently working on their third straight NCAA Tournamnet apperance, Sweet 16 apperance last season, back to back year's in the national rankings, reigning National Coach of the year(soon to be back to back?), sold out Viejas Arena nearly every game, argueably the most electric and raucous student section on the west coast ect..) you would think that they would be able to start to land a couple of 4 Star HS recruits in the ESPNU top 100 at this point. Guy's like Winston Shepard for example.
Don't get me wrong. I'm cool with acquiring bounce back/transfers. It does appear that they have a few solid ones coming in next year in Polee, O'Brien and Johnson. 2 of which(Johnson and Polee) are rated as 4 star talents coming out of HS. However, they should also be able to land these type of kids out of HS as well. If they're not able to, then they're not doing enough possible to sell the program, or desperately need to upgrade the facilities, imo.
Regardless, with all that said, this is a program that is already firmly built right now. This is not a rebuilding type of program. The recent success over tha past several years, especially the carry over effect from last season in what most all of us believed was supposed to be a rebuilding year(myself certainly included and for good reason) should be enought to entice a couple of top notch, 4 star, top 100 recruits out of HS.
As the old saying goes: winning takes care of itself. There should be no reason at this point not to land a couple top notch recruits out of HS.
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Post by aztecgold on Feb 11, 2012 16:36:54 GMT -8
I agree, Washington has a great program, and Oregon has been recruiting really well as of late, too. CAL has always been strong as well. I just see us as being able to compete with the same level of recruits as those guys now... Arizona is still the premiere destination in the West, at least according to Scout/Rivals/and ESPN recruit rankings. Washington has a great rep in cali AAU ball, Romar is known as a terrific recruiter, I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls off the trifecta of Domingo, Gordan, and Bird. This is the part that annoys me. How are they getting such good pub for doing NOTHING! Last year they had a decent year and were able to win a horrible PAC 10 conference. They were .500 on the road and won all their games at home, thanks to the refs. They got hot in the tournament and went to elite 8 and they ALL the pub. SDSU was better than they were last year and SDSU has been better for the LAST 3 years! Why are THEY getting the pub? I do think their coach is a very good recruiter and he hired an assistant who was an AAU coach who has a lot of connections. Even with their big recruiting class next year, SDSU will beat them to be better than they are for 4 YEARS in A ROW!
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Post by podpeople on Feb 11, 2012 18:37:02 GMT -8
I've been asking the same thing for the past two seasons. If you look at our record in MBB the last few years, we havent lost to them once. There has to be a lot more going on up in Wildcat country than mediocre basketball for them to be able to land the guys they do. Just wait, I see us starting the season off as a top 15 team, with UA somewhere around there as well just based on rep alone. our last victory against them left a bad taste in their collective mouths. its going to be a great game.
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Post by heyimallenk on Feb 11, 2012 18:56:41 GMT -8
I've been asking the same thing for the past two seasons. If you look at our record in MBB the last few years, we havent lost to them once. There has to be a lot more going on up in Wildcat country than mediocre basketball for them to be able to land the guys they do. Just wait, I see us starting the season off as a top 15 team, with UA somewhere around there as well just based on rep alone. our last victory against them left a bad taste in their collective mouths. its going to be a great game. A great program, a brand conference (notice I don't call it premier, haha), great facilities, scorching hot girls, a good college town environment, history, and a great great coach in Sean Miller. Lots of reasons to go to UA.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2012 11:03:50 GMT -8
Agree with Wahoo on everything except great college town environment. Tucson? Not really. To me, the campus can't be considered attractive unless you like looking at cactus and some brown grass. Even the buildings are mediocre for the Pac since they look a heck of a lot more like SDSU than the red brick and rolling hills of UCLA, Cal, Stanford, et al.
Then there's the gawd awful heat for the first three months and last three months of every school year, to say nothing of summer school. I can understand playing hoops there because you're inside but it's no wonder Arizona football has been the epitome of mediocrity. No California kid in their right mind would play football there. As an example, one year when I had business in Tucson during their "fall" camp, I listened to the local sportstalk station report that when an open scrimmage kicked off at 5:00 pm, none off the spectators were sitting because the aluminum benches in the stands were too hot to sit on.
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Post by kozy on Feb 12, 2012 14:23:45 GMT -8
This is the part that annoys me. How are they getting such good pub for doing NOTHING! Last year they had a decent year and were able to win a horrible PAC 10 conference. They were .500 on the road and won all their games at home, thanks to the refs. They got hot in the tournament and went to elite 8 and they ALL the pub. SDSU was better than they were last year and SDSU has been better for the LAST 3 years! Why are THEY getting the pub? I do think their coach is a very good recruiter and he hired an assistant who was an AAU coach who has a lot of connections. Even with their big recruiting class next year, SDSU will beat them to be better than they are for 4 YEARS in A ROW![/quote]
How about money is flowing to the AAU coaches to drive kids to UW? Pipeline is easier to stuff now that you have an AAU coach on your staff. Remember the sneaker people buy AAU coaches and kids. They direct those kids to their universities. The kid is in the sneaker minor league system.
When will SDSU get a 5 star? When a kid decided not his money grabbing coach where he should go.
Go read "Play their Hearts Out", book about Demetrius Walker. Then you will understand a sliver of the dirty world called AAU. LBF is in the book as an aside.
Kids are used by these coaches for their own fiscal gain. These kids are slaves for a pair of sneakers and gym bag.
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Post by AztecTom on Feb 12, 2012 14:37:19 GMT -8
This is the part that annoys me. How are they getting such good pub for doing NOTHING! Last year they had a decent year and were able to win a horrible PAC 10 conference. They were .500 on the road and won all their games at home, thanks to the refs. They got hot in the tournament and went to elite 8 and they ALL the pub. SDSU was better than they were last year and SDSU has been better for the LAST 3 years! Why are THEY getting the pub? I do think their coach is a very good recruiter and he hired an assistant who was an AAU coach who has a lot of connections. Even with their big recruiting class next year, SDSU will beat them to be better than they are for 4 YEARS in A ROW! How about money is flowing to the AAU coaches to drive kids to UW? Pipeline is easier to stuff now that you have an AAU coach on your staff. Remember the sneaker people buy AAU coaches and kids. They direct those kids to their universities. The kid is in the sneaker minor league system. When will SDSU get a 5 star? When a kid decided not his money grabbing coach where he should go. Go read "Play their Hearts Out", book about Demetrius Walker. Then you will understand a sliver of the dirty world called AAU. LBF is in the book as an aside. Kids are used by these coaches for their own fiscal gain. These kids are slaves for a pair of sneakers and gym bag. [/quote] We did get a 5 star in Baxter the transfer. I don't know if you count that or he has to be right out of high school.
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Post by kozy on Feb 12, 2012 17:55:55 GMT -8
AAU is basketball only; Baxter is foorball.
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Post by aztectruth on Feb 12, 2012 18:56:25 GMT -8
How about money is flowing to the AAU coaches to drive kids to UW? Pipeline is easier to stuff now that you have an AAU coach on your staff. Remember the sneaker people buy AAU coaches and kids. They direct those kids to their universities. The kid is in the sneaker minor league system. When will SDSU get a 5 star? When a kid decided not his money grabbing coach where he should go. Go read "Play their Hearts Out", book about Demetrius Walker. Then you will understand a sliver of the dirty world called AAU. LBF is in the book as an aside. Kids are used by these coaches for their own fiscal gain. These kids are slaves for a pair of sneakers and gym bag. THIS. This post is the truth. That's as real as it gets. Thats why kids keep going to UCLA and USC. Its not about what they have done lately, its not even much about their tradition. Its about sneaker contracts and coaches getting their commission.
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Post by dunksalot on Feb 14, 2012 14:50:39 GMT -8
kozy and aztectruth, I was thinking along those lines and you answered the question. An added factor could be that UofA has the budget and private alumni support to pay into the AAU circuit - SDSU does not. UofA has better facilities and a better educational reputation.
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