MWC Sets The Record Straight For NCTimes...Sort of

[Dave L]

Setting The Record Straight...With A Few Embellishments

Javan Hedlund, the MWC Associate Commissioner - Communications should know better than to repeat a blatant falsehood when "correcting" the NC Times about The Mtn.

Twice, he states that either DirecTV is available "to anyone in the world" and that "San Diego State students, faculty, fans and alumni all over the world get more television exposure of Aztec sports than ever before".

The only way those two statements are true...is if all the people "in the world" are watching DirecTV in the United States or Puerto Rico.

The guy had some good points...but loses all credibility repeating crap he knows is just not true.

[Village Aztec]

Here is what I know. Boise State is on the FRONT page of USA TODAY weekend paper.
So why would they join the Mountain West if the ESPN was killing recruiting?
They are on ESPN already. What more proof do you need?

They are betting their whole Program RIGHT?
Are they not more of an expert then any one on this Board or any reporter who does not have the inside information that we don't have?

5 or 6 games on TV is a greater sell then 1 game on TV. We also get games on to other net works. If Boise State win's the National Championship will we not get more sponsors net year when they are in the league?

[aztecwin]

It is beyond me how parts of San Diego County are still not able to get The Mtn. We are just too apathetic and there are still not enough of us. Huge numbers could put TW in a hard spot but we do not have the numbers yet.

[FULL_MONTY]

Aug 7, 2010 11:57:36 GMT -8 Dave L said:

Setting The Record Straight...With A Few Embellishments

Javan Hedlund, the MWC Associate Commissioner - Communications should know better than to repeat a blatant falsehood when "correcting" the NC Times about The Mtn.

Twice, he states that either DirecTV is available "to anyone in the world" and that "San Diego State students, faculty, fans and alumni all over the world get more television exposure of Aztec sports than ever before".

The only way those two statements are true...is if all the people "in the world" are watching DirecTV in the United States or Puerto Rico.

The guy had some good points...but loses all credibility repeating crap he knows is just not true.

Actually the statement is accurate, if you are a DTV customer and you have line of site to their satellite you can get the MTN.

Line of sight being the problem.

www.geo-orbit.org/westhemipgs/fdbsusap.html

Have a friend that lives Sao Palo and he watches State Games on the MTN.

Also have a buddy in the Tuna Industry and he watches the games in America Samoa.

So Direct runs multiple satellites and operates in various coutries (Programming being different from one to the other).

In any event, it was not as big a whopper as it may sound.

[monty]

I was going to say the same thing, it might be possible to get the mtn anywhere. I think the piece does a good job refuting the article because the article is full of meandering, contradicting, who cares type points

[Dave L]

Alright...I'll apologize and say I may be wrong. I googled stuff that brought up stuff from DirecTV's website that said what I said. I now see they offer Spanish programming in the Caribbean...but find no evidence of anyplace else.

Here' the original press release about The Mtn on DirecTV: www.themwc.com/genrel/022208aab.html

It looks to me that they just now replace the word "country" with "world".

I would love for someone to point me to where DirecTV touts that "anyone in the world" can now watch The Mtn.?

My uncle lives in New Zealand and would love to find out he has been stupid for not realizing he could get DirecTV and get the sports package.

[aztech]

Aug 7, 2010 13:39:49 GMT -8 Dave L said:

Alright...I'll apologize and say I may be wrong. I googled stuff that brought up stuff from DirecTV's website that said what I said. I now see they offer Spanish programming in the Caribbean...but find no evidence of anyplace else.

Here' the original press release about The Mtn on DirecTV: www.themwc.com/genrel/022208aab.html

It looks to me that they just now replace the word "country" with "world".

I would love for someone to point me to where DirecTV touts that "anyone in the world" can now watch The Mtn.?

My uncle lives in New Zealand and would love to find out he has been stupid for not realizing he could get DirecTV and get the sports package.

If you go the the Direct TV webpage, they are currently going to focus on markets outside of the USA. That was also confirmed in the Wall Street Journal this week.

[aztech]

Aug 7, 2010 12:18:34 GMT -8 aztecwin said:

It is beyond me how parts of San Diego County are still not able to get The Mtn. We are just too apathetic and there are still not enough of us. Huge numbers could put TW in a hard spot but we do not have the numbers yet.

Screw'em like they're screwing you. Go DTV. If you think TW is that much cheaper than DTV then you didn't explore the option. You'd be surprised.

Actually, all you need to do is tell them what you're getting for how much you're currently paying. Then ask them what it costs to get the same, including the HD receiver. Like people have told me, you'll never know if you don't ask.

[standiego]

a question many recruits ask is are we going to be on TV so my friends and family can watch. Yes there are many games on the the MTN , and many Aztec fans have connected but do most of the families of the recruits receive it, The MWC , if it has any clout ,owes it to all the fans all over the state of CA to make sure they are getting it, not just the fans in Utah, Idaho, Colorado,.... Do most of those who vote in the BCS poll or rate the teams for March Madness get to see the games ?

[AztecWilliam]

I wonder how many schools have ALL their football games on national TV. Any? Notre Dame, maybe? BYU has its own network, but I don't know whether that is satellite only, and if so, what its coverage is.

Unless you are a top name BCS school you will probably always gripe that some other guy's team has more exposure than yours does.

AzWm

[aztech]

Aug 7, 2010 15:31:58 GMT -8 standiego said:

a question many recruits ask is are we going to be on TV so my friends and family can watch. Yes there are many games on the the MTN , and many Aztec fans have connected but do most of the families of the recruits receive it, The MWC , if it has any clout ,owes it to all the fans all over the state of CA to make sure they are getting it, not just the fans in Utah, Idaho, Colorado,.... Do most of those who vote in the BCS poll or rate the teams for March Madness get to see the games ?

The MWC owes you nothing. You have an option.

[Village Aztec]

The argument Maffey was referring to was recruiting.

For get the cable issues with us, the point is Boise State is giving up being on ESPN.

Many say ESPN and 1 game is better then 5 or 6 Mountain games.

I remember when we went to day games to help us get newspaper coverage.

I am from Chicago. The Sunday paper is printed Saturday after noon. We never got any coverage in the paper just like the Padres don't get coverage. If you win everyone knows about in on TV sports shows and the internet. If you lose you drop in rankings that very day, because the voters know who won or lost.

The public might not know it until Monday, but they don't vote and they are not going to watch us on TV until we are ranked. They only care about the top 25.

Guys Boise is on the front page of USA Today. Not the 4 teams ahead of them. Everyone knows they are coming to the Mountain West and they hope they will fall on their faces. So they are selling the Mountain for us and they are not even in it. Then next year everyone will want to see how tough the Mountain is when we all play Boise.

You could not buy and pay for better advertising of the Mountain.

So if TV were the key to Boise's recruiting they would not join the Mountain.

Look at the big picture and not our issues. We don't need to lose a big game on ESPN. So until we win ESPN is of no value to our recruiting. Winning is the only thing we need to do and the money and recruiting will follow. What is the famous quote about winning is the only thing.

[monty]

Aug 7, 2010 21:22:17 GMT -8 Village Aztec said:

The argument Maffey was referring to was recruiting.

For get the cable issues with us, the point is Boise State is giving up being on ESPN.

Many say ESPN and 1 game is better then 5 or 6 Mountain games.

I remember when we went to day games to help us get newspaper coverage.

I am from Chicago. The Sunday paper is printed Saturday after noon. We never got any coverage in the paper just like the Padres don't get coverage. If you win everyone knows about in on TV sports shows and the internet. If you lose you drop in rankings that very day, because the voters know who won or lost.

The public might not know it until Monday, but they don't vote and they are not going to watch us on TV until we are ranked. They only care about the top 25.

Guys Boise is on the front page of USA Today. Not the 4 teams ahead of them. Everyone knows they are coming to the Mountain West and they hope they will fall on their faces. So they are selling the Mountain for us and they are not even in it. Then next year everyone will want to see how tough the Mountain is when we all play Boise.

You could not buy and pay for better advertising of the Mountain.

So if TV were the key to Boise's recruiting they would not join the Mountain.

Look at the big picture and not our issues. We don't need to lose a big game on ESPN. So until we win ESPN is of no value to our recruiting. Winning is the only thing we need to do and the money and recruiting will follow. What is the famous quote about winning is the only thing.

Seriously, the way that Boise's staff and administration has built that football program, it seems difficult to imagine that they are willing to jump on a grenade like the MWC - they know what they are doing and although ESPN has its positives, they must feel that a better overall conference will a) at least keep their football chances even (maybe even better with a tougher strength of schedule and b) will allow the rest of the athletic program (notably basketball and they seem to have a good coach coming in) and the school in general to prosper.

They wanted in before, and they have had 4 years to see what the MTN tv deal has done for the conference, what the conference has done in the two major sports, BCS bowls, multiple teams in the tourney I think shows that leaving ESPN has either not mattered to or propelled our progress.

[Village Aztec]

Being a Financial analyst means I deal in reality, and ours has not been very positive. I think in the future. I was a Cost Account Manager at San Diego Trust and Savings Bank. My numbers were not politically correct. You make a lot of powerful people look bad. They will go after you and your only hope is that your reputation will save you.

The auto manufactures all got their Accountant and engineers from the same source. I am sure they were all equal. So management has to pick from what they provide them. If you market the wrong styling car your wiped out for years. If you pick the wrong market the same is true.

Management makes the choices and everyone's job is on the line. That's how capitalism worked.
The new model is no ones job is on the line.

Now sports works on the old model. You get the best people on the field. You gamble on people and if you lose your gone. We had poor leadership. I look at us like Sears. I grew up in Chicago. They peaked. They built the Worlds tallest building while Wal mart was on in new markets in smaller towns. Then they came into the big towns. Do you know there are no Wal marts in Chicago? So the little guys can beat the big guys with the right plan. Go Boise State.

[robthevol]

I posted a thread about Boise State about six months ago.

Their ability to plan and anticipate followed by a long history of good hires and intelligent moves told me they see something of value in moving to the MWC.

I have confidence in the moves they make. They must smell BCS and an increase in revenue or they wouldn't have made the move.

[monty]

Aug 8, 2010 10:03:26 GMT -8 robthevol said:

I posted a thread about Boise State about six months ago.

Their ability to plan and anticipate followed by a long history of good hires and intelligent moves told me they see something of value in moving to the MWC.

I have confidence in the moves they make. They must smell BCS and an increase in revenue or they wouldn't have made the move.

I think it is even less about rock hard cash, than developing their overall institution. Football was step one in developing the university and the rest of the athletic department. The put all their eggs in one basket, created name recognition, now they are moving on to a conference that has better overall sports program and far better universities, 10-20 years, if Boise continues on their trajectory, they will have a solid state school like New Mex and CSU, SDSU and UNLV and will have rounded out their athletics with basketball and likely some others. Without jumping back into f'n expansion topics, there are a couple other schools sitting out there between the coast and say chicago that fit this profile of good to very good state D1a school and it tells me boise thinks it will be with them soon enough.