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Post by AztecBill on Jul 26, 2010 14:23:13 GMT -8
When Stauffer came back we ended up losing Gallagher. When Adams comes back we have another tough choice. This pitching staff is unbelievable:
Starters 1. Mat Latos 2. Kevin Correia 3. Jon Garland 4. Wade LeBlanc 5. Clayton Richard
Swing 6. Tim Stauffer
Relievers 7. Heath Bell 8. Mike Adams 9. Luke Gregerson 10. Edward Mujica 11. Joe Thatcher 12. Ryan Webb 13. Ernesto Frieri
Ernesto seems most likely only because he was the one promoted recently but his career in the big leagues is now:
6 innings 0 runs 1 hit 2 BB 10 Strikeouts
We are in great shape to make a deal. We could really afford to give up 2 very good relievers. We don't need all the guys in the bullpen to be great, we can afford to have one mop up guy. But we must get hitting value in return that helps this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2010 14:34:42 GMT -8
Get rid of Mujica. Guy is going to end up giving up a some clutch late innning home runs down the stretch
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Post by AztecTom on Jul 26, 2010 14:38:58 GMT -8
Get rid of Mujica. Guy is going to end up giving up a some clutch late innning home runs down the stretch I actually have to agree with tec on something.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 26, 2010 14:47:15 GMT -8
Get rid of Mujica. Guy is going to end up giving up a some clutch late innning home runs down the stretch We can change his role to mop up where he will not hurt us. As bad as Sean Gal. pitched, he never hurt us because of the situations in which he entered the game. If we move Mujica he can be claimed on waviers since he has no options. He is only 25 and does have some value. There are teams who would trade for him right now.
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Post by PowayAztec on Jul 26, 2010 17:43:27 GMT -8
Bye Bye Mujica.
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Post by joshjones1 on Jul 26, 2010 21:56:12 GMT -8
Mujica gives up homers like a motherfuc*ker, but his whip and era are impressive.
Never cared for him much. He's the guy who will blow a big game by giving up a back breaking homer.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 29, 2010 13:22:56 GMT -8
Mujica gives up homers like a motherfuc*ker, but his whip and era are impressive. Never cared for him much. He's the guy who will blow a big game by giving up a back breaking homer. Mujica needs to adjust his mind, I believe. When he gets behind he gives up trying to make good pitches and just gets the ball over. Those pitches are the ones smacked 400 feet. He needs to allow himself to walk a batter on occasion when trying to make a good pitch when behind. I hate walking batters too but he needs to trust his stuuf to battle back with good pitches.
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Jul 30, 2010 11:58:11 GMT -8
I'd much rather try to deal Mujica, especially since there's so many teams desperate for relievers. If we can't deal him then send Ernesto down.
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Post by jhonka34 on Aug 1, 2010 10:44:19 GMT -8
I'd much rather try to deal Mujica, especially since there's so many teams desperate for relievers. If we can't deal him then send Ernesto down. I kinda agree. He's a talent, his numbers clearly show that, but the Pads have BP depth and could have sold high on Mujica. Still might, in order to find a starter to eat innings sometime this month. We'll see.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 2, 2010 8:48:26 GMT -8
I'd much rather try to deal Mujica, especially since there's so many teams desperate for relievers. If we can't deal him then send Ernesto down. I kinda agree. He's a talent, his numbers clearly show that, but the Pads have BP depth and could have sold high on Mujica. Still might, in order to find a starter to eat innings sometime this month. We'll see. Mujica is 26. He has great stuff. I think he needs to make (or has made) small adjustments (mentally) to become dominant. We shouldn't give up on him. He is currently on a 9 inning scoreless streak. Mujica's Last 9 innings9 Innings 0 Runs 4 hits 0 Walks 8 Ks ERAs2.61 Mujica 3.21 Webb
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Post by PowayAztec on Aug 4, 2010 20:38:48 GMT -8
Another fine performance by Mujica tonight. One inning......five runs.
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Post by AztecTom on Aug 4, 2010 20:55:21 GMT -8
Another fine performance by Mujica tonight. One inning......five runs. This is the only thing that I can agree with donkey fan on. Mujica sucks balls and needs to go as soon as Adams is ready to go.
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Post by joshjones1 on Aug 4, 2010 22:20:23 GMT -8
I kinda agree. He's a talent, his numbers clearly show that, but the Pads have BP depth and could have sold high on Mujica. Still might, in order to find a starter to eat innings sometime this month. We'll see. Mujica is 26. He has great stuff. I think he needs to make (or has made) small adjustments (mentally) to become dominant. We shouldn't give up on him. He is currently on a 9 inning scoreless streak. Mujica's Last 9 innings9 Innings 0 Runs 4 hits 0 Walks 8 Ks ERAs2.61 Mujica 3.21 Webb Mujica is ok. He doesn't have "great stuff" but he is not a bad setup man. His probem is he gives up a ton of homers and you can't have that from a reliever in deep innings. His 11 longballs allowed are more than Bell, Gregerson, Adams, and Frieri combined.
No way I'd send Frieri down, even with Adams back. Come October, you can never have too many good bullpen arms. You never know when a guy will go cold, relievers are fickle, that's why they're relievers. Frieri's major league career dating back to a sip of coffee last year: 9 1/3 innings, 16 K's, 3 walks, 0.00 ERA, 0.43 WHIP. That WHIP is insanely good. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8599
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 5, 2010 8:09:38 GMT -8
Mujica is ok. He doesn't have "great stuff" but he is not a bad setup man. His probem is he gives up a ton of homers and you can't have that from a reliever in deep innings. His 11 longballs allowed are more than Bell, Gregerson, Adams, and Frieri combined.
No way I'd send Frieri down, even with Adams back. Come October, you can never have too many good bullpen arms. You never know when a guy will go cold, relievers are fickle, that's why they're relievers. Frieri's major league career dating back to a sip of coffee last year: 9 1/3 innings, 16 K's, 3 walks, 0.00 ERA, 0.43 WHIP. That WHIP is insanely good. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8599I would hate to see Frieri go. Mujica seems the logical choice. Although another bad start by Corriea would make a Stauffer move to the rotation and Corriea to the DL a sweet thing. That would open up a spot for Mujica as a mop up guy. Mujica just turned 26. I could see him come back in a couple years as a starter and shut out the Padres. We would be lamenting ever letting him go. That exact thing has happened before. Give up on a young reliever and have him convert to starting and rock. I think Mujica could do that.
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Post by aztecron on Aug 5, 2010 16:56:49 GMT -8
Mujica is ok. He doesn't have "great stuff" but he is not a bad setup man. His probem is he gives up a ton of homers and you can't have that from a reliever in deep innings. His 11 longballs allowed are more than Bell, Gregerson, Adams, and Frieri combined.
No way I'd send Frieri down, even with Adams back. Come October, you can never have too many good bullpen arms. You never know when a guy will go cold, relievers are fickle, that's why they're relievers. Frieri's major league career dating back to a sip of coffee last year: 9 1/3 innings, 16 K's, 3 walks, 0.00 ERA, 0.43 WHIP. That WHIP is insanely good. sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8599I would hate to see Frieri go. Mujica seems the logical choice. Although another bad start by Corriea would make a Stauffer move to the rotation and Corriea to the DL a sweet thing. That would open up a spot for Mujica as a mop up guy. Mujica just turned 26. I could see him come back in a couple years as a starter and shut out the Padres. We would be lamenting ever letting him go. That exact thing has happened before. Give up on a young reliever and have him convert to starting and rock. I think Mujica could do that. I wish I had your faith in Mujica, Bill. I think he's going to sink us from within. You just cannot give up the long ball like he does and survive at this level. I truly hope your scenario plays out and Mujica is the stud you think he'll be. I'll be one happy individual if that happens.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 6, 2010 9:11:06 GMT -8
I wish I had your faith in Mujica, Bill. I think he's going to sink us from within. You just cannot give up the long ball like he does and survive at this level. I truly hope your scenario plays out and Mujica is the stud you think he'll be. I'll be one happy individual if that happens. We can't send Frieri back. I have wondered how he would react to trouble. Last night the Dodgers got two lucky hits to start his inning. He proceeded to strike out the next batter and induce the following batter to GIDP. It was a great outing that showed a lot about his makeup. HE IS A KEEPER. I hope they bring Adams back slowly and don't just reinsert him into the 8th inning spot. Let him have a few less meaningful outings first.
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Aug 7, 2010 18:31:33 GMT -8
They sent Webb down, not a back option since he's struggled recently.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 9, 2010 8:47:24 GMT -8
They sent Webb down, not a back option since he's struggled recently. When Adams goes back to his 8th inning position, the Padres will have Frieri, Stauffer, and Thatcher in non-critical bullpen roles. WOW. That bullpen has incredible depth. 0.93 Frieri 0.76 Stauffer 1.48 Thatcher
Ryan Webb is another player who started with great stats and reverted more to what was expected. First 25.1 innings 0.71 ERA. Next (last) 19 innings 6.16 ERA. We should remember that when talking Frieri. Both Webb (24) and Frieri (25) are still young and have improvement on their future.
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Aug 9, 2010 13:58:55 GMT -8
Mujica is pretty young too, nice to have a bullpen this good with a bunch of young guys. Hopefully Hoyer is able to keep bringing in quality bullpen arms for the future like Towers did.
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 9, 2010 14:02:10 GMT -8
Mujica is pretty young too, nice to have a bullpen this good with a bunch of young guys. Hopefully Hoyer is able to keep bringing in quality bullpen arms for the future like Towers did. In 2007 the Padres had a great bullpen. All those same players were absolutely terrible in 2008. Let's just hope history doesn't repeat on that front.
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