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Post by aztecmaverick on Jul 25, 2010 20:34:32 GMT -8
If 50,000 people came to town (your estimate) and spent $10, there is your 500,000. $500,000?...You and the NFL has said $500 MILLION. That means 50,000 people (that wouldn't have been in SD that week anyway) would need to spend $10,000 per person. Are you starting to realize how foolish that number is? I'm in law school and not doing math for a reason... I don't do well with numbers... Yes 500 mil seems a bit steep but the intangibles I think are very high as well... |
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Post by aztecpaulg on Jul 25, 2010 22:39:52 GMT -8
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$500,000?...You and the NFL has said $500 MILLION. That means 50,000 people (that wouldn't have been in SD that week anyway) would need to spend $10,000 per person.
Are you starting to realize how foolish that number is? [/quote]
The number of people having their hand in any new stadium will be far more than 50,000. But even if it was just 50K, they would need to spend the 10 grand you're talking about. But they would have twenty to thirty years to do it. ... the idea that the stadium won't pay for itself is not true. The tax dollar revenue from the stadium will eventually pay for any money invested, the question is not if it will, but when it will pay it off. Like the new library, any new stadium should be considered an investment. It might cost some money in the short term, but it'll make plenty back too.
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Post by mattpohl on Jul 26, 2010 9:15:39 GMT -8
I think the 500 mil was referring to the impact of a super bowl. I think the BS call is correct. Hang in there, Matt
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 26, 2010 9:50:57 GMT -8
If a new stadium were to be owned by the Spanoses, any money contributed by the city would qualify as a very bad investment. Only if the city, not a private company, owns it will a new stadium make sense. And maybe not even then.
If Alex Spanos wants to own a stadium, let him buy the land and pay for construction himself.
I don't think a lot of people realize just how bad are the finances of the City of San Diego. If the city is going to expend a lot of money, it should be on roads, the sewer system, and other projects designed to benefit all San Diegans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2010 10:36:52 GMT -8
Central libraries define a real city. The current city hall sucks the root big time. I think it's the city hall which defines a city. Whether it's an older one with art deco architecture like San Francisco or L.A. or a new one with a modern dynamic curving glass facade like Fresno or Irvine, a quality city hall exudes pride in the business of the people. I love San Diego generally but for a major city, its city hall is a POS. It's actually a city hall version of Qualcomm Stadium in that both greatly emphasized functionality over the civic pride which comes from having an architectural landmark. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 26, 2010 11:42:59 GMT -8
Central libraries define a real city. The current city hall sucks the root big time. I think it's the city hall which defines a city. Whether it's an older one with art deco architecture like San Francisco or L.A. or a new one with a modern dynamic curving glass facade like Fresno or Irvine, a quality city hall exudes pride in the business of the people. I love San Diego generally but for a major city, its city hall is a POS. It's actually a city hall version of Qualcomm Stadium in that both greatly emphasized functionality over the civic pride which comes from having an architectural landmark. I was making an argument, but overall, great architecture defines a city. The NYC library, with its iconic lions, is certainly one of the ways that city is defined. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 26, 2010 11:49:34 GMT -8
Central libraries define a real city. Most likely you live in the burbs and think the world revolves around your community library, but a central library is important. Ever spent any time at all in our current city hall? That place is a total wreck (and I state that as someone who worked in an old GenDyn warehouse at County Planning for 10 years). The current city hall sucks the root big time. I don't see a reason to build some sort of high rise, as has been proposed, but something better than what now exists is needed. Personally, I'd like to see a building along the lines of the County Administration Building instead of just another faceless, anonymous piece of junk high rise, but that's design, not policy. =Bob Live in the city proper, but nice to know how you feel about people in the burbs. My comment was about the burbs, not the people who live in them, although virtually every burb wants a big ass branch library at the expense of a central library. I have no problem with the people who live in the burbs even though I find them to be vast wastelands, but that's just my taste and if theirs vary it's fine with me. Where I do run into problems is when libraries and other infrastructure in the burbs detract from those things in the urban core. Mira Mesa has a fantastic library, but what it costs to staff and maintain it puts a rather large dent in the City's library budget. =Bob |
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