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Post by aztecwin on Jul 16, 2010 16:10:34 GMT -8
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jul 16, 2010 19:37:41 GMT -8
He sure looks like the most ineffective president in history.
Now, I know that JFK got nothing through Congress that he wanted, so he gets the title, but Obama (not counting socialized medicine) has done nothing of note.
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Post by aztec70 on Jul 16, 2010 22:15:42 GMT -8
Gadzooks! Any real president would be clearing brush on his ranch. ;D
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Post by waztec on Jul 17, 2010 6:21:28 GMT -8
You walked into this one my friend. By this time in his first term George W. Bush had spent about 516 hours (proportionally) on vacation. That is three hours short of three work months in 18 months.
Lets keep the accusations in perspective.
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Post by Yoda on Jul 17, 2010 7:20:51 GMT -8
Gadzooks! Any real president would be clearing brush on his ranch. ;D And that doesn't even count all the time he spent jogging -- which, like golf, is also a form of exercise. Actually, pretty much anything that any president does to release stress -- except Monica Lewinsky -- is likely to be okay with me. Of course since you conservatives all claim to be libertarian, I suppose you had no problems even with Monica. But we centrists are such prudes. Yoda out...
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Post by waztec on Jul 17, 2010 7:29:47 GMT -8
Gadzooks! Any real president would be clearing brush on his ranch. ;D And that doesn't even count all the time he spent jogging -- which, like golf, is also a form of exercise. Actually, pretty much anything that any president does to release stress -- except Monica Lewinsky -- is likely to be okay with me. Of course since you conservatives all claim to be libertarian, I suppose you had no problems even with Monica. But we centrists are such prudes. Yoda out... Actually, I agree with you. Bush could not escape the job in Texas and Obama can't on the golf course.
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 17, 2010 11:05:57 GMT -8
You walked into this one my friend. By this time in his first term George W. Bush had spent about 516 hours (proportionally) on vacation. That is three hours short of three work months in 18 months. Lets keep the accusations in perspective. You have to realize that there is a difference in being on the job in Texas with staff and advisers like Bush and being on the golf course with only cronies around. He does not bring staff or advisers nor does he discuss or think about the business of America. Big difference! I say again, Obummer does not seem to be any good at anything but kicking back and hiding his smoking habit.
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 17, 2010 11:07:22 GMT -8
And that doesn't even count all the time he spent jogging -- which, like golf, is also a form of exercise. Actually, pretty much anything that any president does to release stress -- except Monica Lewinsky -- is likely to be okay with me. Of course since you conservatives all claim to be libertarian, I suppose you had no problems even with Monica. But we centrists are such prudes. Yoda out... Actually, I agree with you. Bush could not escape the job in Texas and Obama can't on the golf course. Check the link! Obamma does avoid the job on the golf course.
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Post by waztec on Jul 17, 2010 11:20:17 GMT -8
Actually, I agree with you. Bush could not escape the job in Texas and Obama can't on the golf course. Check the link! Obamma does avoid the job on the golf course. Untrue. Anyone who needs to can reach Obama immediately. You know better. Just like they could with Bush when he was clearing Bush.
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 17, 2010 11:21:55 GMT -8
Check the link! Obamma does avoid the job on the golf course. Untrue. Anyone who needs to can reach Obama immediately. You know better. Just like they could with Bush when he was clearing Bush. It is true, read the link again. Obama does not talk business or even have staff with him on the links. Now this is not about golf, but it does show how little Obama cares for the big problems that we have. www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/16/obama.vacation/
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Post by Yoda on Jul 17, 2010 16:19:06 GMT -8
You have to realize that there is a difference in being on the job in Texas with staff and advisers like Bush and being on the golf course with only cronies around. He does not bring staff or advisers nor does he discuss or think about the business of America. Big difference! I say again, Obummer does not seem to be any good at anything but kicking back and hiding his smoking habit. No matter what you are doing as President, if there is a guy with a suitcase containing nuclear codes handcuffed to his wrist, close by, then you are NOT off the job. Yoda out...
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 17, 2010 16:48:23 GMT -8
You have to realize that there is a difference in being on the job in Texas with staff and advisers like Bush and being on the golf course with only cronies around. He does not bring staff or advisers nor does he discuss or think about the business of America. Big difference! I say again, Obummer does not seem to be any good at anything but kicking back and hiding his smoking habit. No matter what you are doing as President, if there is a guy with a suitcase containing nuclear codes handcuffed to his wrist, close by, then you are NOT off the job. Yoda out...[/quote] True, but not in line with the discussion. It is like being on call but not on the clock like many of us have experienced. When BP called, Obama just refused to answer.
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