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Post by steveaztec on Jul 12, 2010 12:55:12 GMT -8
Considering Davis and Shelley jacked up nearly 200 3 pointers at a meager 25% accuracy last year ... we have to be better. In conference play, a combined 20-87 from behind the arc. That's 23% for those scoring at home (as I'm sure Bill is). Davis and Shelly? Or does that include Leonard too. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 12, 2010 12:56:29 GMT -8
Assume about the same fom DJ & Tapley (for sake of argument). It's pretty likely KL will regress to the mean (show at least modest improvement from 3). Remove Davis & Shelley's bricks. Add the Franklins & (more importantly) Rahon. = definite improvement from 3-pt land for the Aztecs. No doubt about it. SDSU may or may not make the Sweet 16, they they WILL improve 3-pt shooting. Agree Hoobs. |
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Post by hoobs on Jul 12, 2010 13:28:11 GMT -8
We were the only MWC team last year whose two primary guards shot over 40% on threes in conference. Our biggest problem with 3 point shooting was a guard who had twice as many attempts per minute than any other player on the team and hit at a very low rate. Without his numbers the Aztecs would be 2nd in the MWC in 3 point shooting percentage. He will not attempt any shots this year. LET THEM ZONE. And we add Rahon and Mehdi for that 3 when open. IMO, Mehdi playing more than 5 mins/game would mean 1 of 2 things: 1) we REALLY blow out a lot of teams offering a ton of garbage time to 3rd-stringers & walkons. 2) a LOT of injuries to other PFs. One scenario I don't mind, the other is a nightmare. Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 12, 2010 13:32:10 GMT -8
And we add Rahon and Mehdi for that 3 when open. IMO, Mehdi playing more than 5 mins/game would mean 1 of 2 things: 1) we REALLY blow out a lot of teams offering a ton of garbage time to 3rd-stringers & walkons. 2) a LOT of injuries to other PFs. One scenario I don't mind, the other is a nightmare. Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) Now that I will have to disagree with you. Especially with Shelly out of the picture. I like Rahon as a shooter more than Mehdi, but Mehdi will have a good year and contribute much more than many think. |
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Post by HollywoodAztec on Jul 12, 2010 13:37:40 GMT -8
This is a 24/25 win season no matter what....Probably more. Look at last years scheduled were we lost to Wyoming and Pacific. Granted we lost to the teams you mentioned but don’t forget that our starting five last season consisted of only one returning starter. With one year under their belt, the familiarity and experience of playing together will really help us compete better against teams with higher level of talent hence, why our OOC is tougher this year. |
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Post by coolethan on Jul 12, 2010 13:56:12 GMT -8
LBF can stroke it. I'm not worried about him from 3 point land.
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Post by hoobs on Jul 12, 2010 16:08:54 GMT -8
IMO, Mehdi playing more than 5 mins/game would mean 1 of 2 things: 1) we REALLY blow out a lot of teams offering a ton of garbage time to 3rd-stringers & walkons. 2) a LOT of injuries to other PFs. One scenario I don't mind, the other is a nightmare. Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) Now that I will have to disagree with you. Especially with Shelly out of the picture. I like Rahon as a shooter more than Mehdi, but Mehdi will have a good year and contribute much more than many think. I just don't see it. Mehdi is not a SF, I've seen ZERO evidence that he can handle the rock on the perimeter (granted, I don't sit in on practices and we're assuming my memory can accurately stretch back 18 months...). So, that means he has to compete with Thomas, White, Carlwell, Shelton, & Williams for playing time at PF. Hell, throw KL in there as well, since I am sure that we'll see J Franklin & KL on the court together with JF @ the 3 and KL @ the 4. (since we will actually have the depth at the guard spots, for once -- hopefully, knock on wood) Mehdi << Thomas, White, & Shelton. AND I would say Carlwell as well. So where is his playing time going to come from? Again, I'm not trying to bag on the guy, and I actually sorta liked him at times his Jr year... but the talent level on the roster has really left him in the dust, IMO, the last 2 recruiting classed. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 12, 2010 16:16:24 GMT -8
Now that I will have to disagree with you. Especially with Shelly out of the picture. I like Rahon as a shooter more than Mehdi, but Mehdi will have a good year and contribute much more than many think. I just don't see it. Mehdi is not a SF, I've seen ZERO evidence that he can handle the rock on the perimeter (granted, I don't sit in on practices and we're assuming my memory can accurately stretch back 18 months...). So, that means he has to compete with Thomas, White, Carlwell, Shelton, & Williams for playing time at PF. Hell, throw KL in there as well, since I am sure that we'll see J Franklin & KL on the court together with JF @ the 3 and KL @ the 4. (since we will actually have the depth at the guard spots, for once -- hopefully, knock on wood) Mehdi << Thomas, White, & Shelton. AND I would say Carlwell as well. So where is his playing time going to come from? Again, I'm not trying to bag on the guy, and I actually sorta liked him at times his Jr year... but the talent level on the roster has really left him in the dust, IMO, the last 2 recruiting classed. I'm just going on two points... - My personal opinion by watching his game myself. I think he will fill a vital role off the bench this year. I think he shoots well, passes well, and has a good basketball IQ. A little soft underneath, but I don't think he is anywhere near as soft as some think. -Comments made by Coach Fisher to me and others. Coach thinks Mehdi is a very good team player that meshes with the team. He also thinks very highly of Mehdi 3 point shooting. I also have heard Coach Fisher say at two different functions that IF Medhi had not redshirted last year, we probably would have won 2 or 3 more games last season. It will be interesting to see what happens. |
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 12, 2010 16:29:03 GMT -8
2 say we would have won 2+more games is because of our lack of depth that we had last year. With Shelton going down and White limited for 5-10 games in the middle of the year with injury .. Cheriet's minutes would have been huge last year. If Shelton is healthy and can play 15-20 mins per game Cheriet's minutes will be limited.
I do think Cheriet will get more minutes than Carlwell on the year because he spreads the floor for players like Thomas, White and Leonard rather than clogging the middle.
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Post by monty on Jul 12, 2010 17:47:08 GMT -8
Medhi got 14 minutes on a pretty good team, it wasn't deep or have this type of size, but there are some things he gives us aginst the zone and against certain lineups that tells me he and Carwell will average 10-12 minutes and will trade off games/teams with one getting 15-17 and the other 5-7
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Jul 12, 2010 18:12:43 GMT -8
I agree with Steve, Mehdi is just the type of guy that Fisher loves to play. He can play the 4 (with White out / Thomas on the floor) or 5 (when White is on the floor and Thomas on the bench) and in both case be able bring out the other team's big man to the perimeter. He will even play some 3 with Leonard on the bench and if Carwell is in the game. He will be in the rotation over Williams and I think - especially early - will get in before Shelton.
The key with this team - and we we are all so excited - is the fact that they have soooo many good players that can play multiple positions. Carwell is pretty much the only guy that can't play more than 2 spots on the floor.
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Post by cvaztec on Jul 13, 2010 17:00:01 GMT -8
Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) I would actually say since John Sharper. He had a real nice shot by the end of his career and hit some clutch shots. Having him on the perimeter helped open things up for Brandon Heath. Ahh, the memories.  |
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Post by monty on Jul 13, 2010 17:02:39 GMT -8
Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) I would actually say since John Sharper. He had a real nice shot by the end of his career and hit some clutch shots. Having him on the perimeter helped open things up for Brandon Heath. Ahh, the memories. yea, sharp was a nice piece |
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Post by texasaztec on Jul 13, 2010 19:52:27 GMT -8
I can't wait for the season to start!
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 13, 2010 21:30:11 GMT -8
3 months .. 28 days ... 16 hours ... 17 minutes.
somewhere, right now ... Leonard is practicing 3 pointers, Thomas is practicing hooks over his left shoulder and Jamaal is high jumping the oncoming trolley.
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Post by standiego on Jul 14, 2010 12:48:16 GMT -8
are they doing a "Midnight Madness " type of opening practice
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 16, 2010 8:17:10 GMT -8
Rahon will be the "zone-buster" the Aztecs have lacked for... for... for a long time. (since Faux?) I would actually say since John Sharper. He had a real nice shot by the end of his career and hit some clutch shots. Having him on the perimeter helped open things up for Brandon Heath. Ahh, the memories. DJ Gay was very Sharper-like last year. He had some amazing games in which he couldn't miss while tightly guarded from distance in clutch situations. 41.9% DJ Gay 3 pointers in conference last year. 42.0% John Sharper 2005-2006. 36.8% John Sharper 2004-2005. 41.0% Al Faux 2001-2002. 42.1% Al Faux 2000-2001. |
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Post by DukeAztec on Jul 16, 2010 9:01:45 GMT -8
3 months .. 28 days ... 16 hours ... 17 minutes. somewhere, right now ... Leonard is practicing 3 pointers, Thomas is practicing hooks over his left shoulder and Jamaal is high jumping the oncoming trolley. I think I saw KL the other day high jumping over the NBC bldg downtown.... |
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Post by DukeAztec on Jul 16, 2010 9:02:16 GMT -8
are they doing a "Midnight Madness " type of opening practice i hope they do!! |
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Post by longtimebooster on Jul 16, 2010 9:16:08 GMT -8
... Mehdi will have a good year and contribute much more than many think. If he contributes anything meaningful, that will be much more than I think. I'm a Mehdi hater. Sorry. Just can't help myself. Personally, with the roster we have, I don't see him getting anything more than a cameo appearance every game. |
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