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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 20:31:43 GMT -8
You guys know more than me.. but with all the talk on the other thread about our receivers.. it seems to me this could be Lindley's breakout year.
The guys has looked ungodly AT TIMES.. then looked confused, very inconsistent. But he does have the arm, the brain and the tools I think to be very good. He's shown flashes of brilliance.
What if this year everything clicks? Maybe it's just him feeling more comfortable in the new offense. I just get this feeling we're so close. If the line does better, backs do better, the QB does better, the receivers don't regress. this could be an exciting team.
You'd think the defense would be better too. If you improve in every area, that can win you more than just one more game.. it can be huge.
You football minds out there.. what's it going to take to make Lindley more consistent?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 8, 2010 20:38:11 GMT -8
Pass protection. Watch the Colorado State replay from last year...even with no running game, guys coming unblocked up the middle to drill running backs in the backfield...Lindley had a career day. He needs protection, he needs to set his feet, and complete the throws on target. A year under his belt in the new system should do wonders. I fully expected between 3500 and 4,000 passing yards and in the neighborhood of 30 touchdowns.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jul 8, 2010 20:38:36 GMT -8
I think its obvious, Sipe is probably working with him on not locking on to receivers as to me it seems he goes to only 1 or 2 reads and then panics, so he either forces it or holds on to ball too long. Obviously offensive line will help if they are improved but I thought other than the AFA and TCU game he had decent time. An improved running game is the key, as well as him developing trust in his o-line,as well as going through progressions, imo.
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Post by dshawfan on Jul 8, 2010 20:44:10 GMT -8
You guys know more than me.. but with all the talk on the other thread about our receivers.. it seems to me this could be Lindley's breakout year. The guys has looked ungodly AT TIMES.. then looked confused, very inconsistent. But he does have the arm, the brain and the tools I think to be very good. He's shown flashes of brilliance. What if this year everything clicks? Maybe it's just him feeling more comfortable in the new offense. I just get this feeling we're so close. If the line does better, backs do better, the QB does better, the receivers don't regress. this could be an exciting team. You'd think the defense would be better too. If you improve in every area, that can win you more than just one more game.. it can be huge. You football minds out there.. what's it going to take to make Lindley more consistent? Man if a QB can be comfortable in the pocket versus harried it is generally a night and day difference in his performance. Just using the UNM game from last year as an example on those drives where Lindley was running for his life the offense was very ineffective - generally 3 and out. When we were able to give him some time it was completely different as he was able to survey the field and deliver some accurate passes to his receivers. It works that way at any level. Tom Brady with time is going to be deadly. Tom Brady under duress (Giants SuperBowl) is human and can be beaten. If the OL comes together, I think we have some weapons on offense that will be very tough to defend. |
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Post by guest on Jul 8, 2010 21:00:04 GMT -8
Hard to look at 2nd and 3rd receivers if you don't get more that 2 or 3 seconds to pass the ball.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jul 8, 2010 21:07:59 GMT -8
Hard to look at 2nd and 3rd receivers if you don't get more that 2 or 3 seconds to pass the ball. even when he had no pressure he wouldn't look at more than 2 recievers |
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Post by Old School on Jul 8, 2010 21:29:16 GMT -8
Hard to look at 2nd and 3rd receivers if you don't get more that 2 or 3 seconds to pass the ball. even when he had no pressure he wouldn't look at more than 2 recievers +1 Oldie Out |
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Post by k5james on Jul 8, 2010 21:41:34 GMT -8
Hard to look at 2nd and 3rd receivers if you don't get more that 2 or 3 seconds to pass the ball. even when he had no pressure he wouldn't look at more than 2 recievers Wrong. |
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Post by aztech on Jul 8, 2010 21:52:24 GMT -8
Hard to look at 2nd and 3rd receivers if you don't get more that 2 or 3 seconds to pass the ball. even when he had no pressure he wouldn't look at more than 2 recievers Christ kid, it was his first year with Borges. Plus he had to learn how to take snaps from under center which I thought he's never done since he's been playing the game. I'm thinking Borges still has a lot more to pile on him this year. Rocky's doing the same thing on his side of the ball. Gotta wonder though, how much these guys can absorb. I'm sure there must be a lot of angst and pressure to get the program turned around quickly. |
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Post by monty on Jul 8, 2010 21:52:45 GMT -8
The consistent first drive/first quarter turnovers are concerning. Dude has a lot of talent and seems to be the leader on his team. Sometimes such players put too much pressure on themselves and make early mistakes. He has a ton of experience now, he has an OC that knows his $#!+, he has a QB coach that has performed at every level since a child, I think he'll put up a monster performance, but I do think he'll still have some moments of fumbling or bad picks.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jul 8, 2010 22:52:39 GMT -8
even when he had no pressure he wouldn't look at more than 2 recievers Wrong. Guess you didn't watch the team last year |
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Post by k5james on Jul 8, 2010 23:58:36 GMT -8
Guess you didn't watch the team last year No you just don't know what the hell you are talking about. Monty...that AFA game was especially brutal. INT's you can kind of get over especially with the lack of protection and how much we had to throw the ball, but there's no excuse for the fumbles. |
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Post by bill456 on Jul 9, 2010 2:03:23 GMT -8
The guy needs some kind of a running game, something the Aztecs have been missing for some time. Him thinking he has to do everything has lead to picks going back the other way.
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Post by aztecx on Jul 9, 2010 8:22:24 GMT -8
To win in football you need to do two things:
Run the ball
Stop the run.
If we can run the ball effectively, watch Lindleys numbers take off.
It is really hard to throw the ball when your running game does not exist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2010 8:34:34 GMT -8
With ANY kind of running game this year, the passing game will be huge. I say air it out.
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Post by ron on Jul 9, 2010 9:08:39 GMT -8
The facts are that Lindley was learning to take snaps from under center in a new offense, with a bad OL and no running game. Oh yeah, and he was only a soph. Plus, unless you know the play call you have know idea what his progression is.
Now, all that being said, Ryan needs to make a leap this year. He has (if all remain healthy) one of he better WR/TE combinations on the west coast. If the OL can give him another second or two it could make a huge difference for him. If they can add an improved running game then I'll be saying he has no excuses.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 9, 2010 11:36:56 GMT -8
To win in football you need to do two things: Run the ball Stop the run. If we can run the ball effectively, watch Lindleys numbers take off. It is really hard to throw the ball when your running game does not exist. When Tolver and Osgood set an NCAA record for receptions and yards for a pair of wide receivers, the Aztecs averaged 2.6 yards per attempt on the ground.
We didn't throw enough on first down last year. When we were forced to because we were behind, we rocked. When we didn't because we were ahead, we blopped. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2010 11:41:34 GMT -8
remind me again, what was our record that year? When Tolver and Osgood set an NCAA record for receptions and yards for a pair of wide receivers, the Aztecs averaged 2.6 yards per attempt on the ground. |
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Post by aztecx on Jul 9, 2010 11:52:53 GMT -8
To win in football you need to do two things: Run the ball Stop the run. If we can run the ball effectively, watch Lindleys numbers take off. It is really hard to throw the ball when your running game does not exist. When Tolver and Osgood set an NCAA record for receptions and yards for a pair of wide receivers, the Aztecs averaged 2.6 yards per attempt on the ground. And were we a winning team?  As I said, to win you need to run the ball effectively and stop the run. If you do those two things, you will be a good team. |
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Post by monty on Jul 9, 2010 12:03:14 GMT -8
remind me again, what was our record that year? When Tolver and Osgood set an NCAA record for receptions and yards for a pair of wide receivers, the Aztecs averaged 2.6 yards per attempt on the ground. And as someone pointed out when this was brought up - we couldn't score in the red zone and had a poor points per yard - we went up and down the field between the 20s, yet stalled. You have to have some balance/ |
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