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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 27, 2011 9:35:30 GMT -8
IT IS TIME TO GO TO WAR WITH THE NUCLEAR POWER INDUSTRY!
I am not advocating violence, but do advocate increased measures to draw attention to the MASSIVE CORRUPTION THAT ATTENDS OUR GOVERNMENT THAT IS FUNDED BY MONEY FROM THE CORRUPT NUCLEAR POWER INDUSTRY. A great many of our politicians have been bought by corporate money.
Most of you know that very early on there was definite proof that women who lived near nuclear power plants had greatly increased case numbers for breast cancer. Quite frankly breast cancer is our canary in the coal mine detector of problems with nuclear power.
It is not Safe!
It is not Clean!
It is not Cheap!
It is not Green!
It is not Healthy!
The industry as a whole has increased background radiation levels in the United States to twice that of Australia. The industry will lie like hell about this and they will show you biased data that is not valid to prove their position that background radiation has not risen more than one percent due to their industry. That, of course is nothing but damned lies. All you have to do is compare The United States to Australia to know the truth. Cancer is caused by radiation. On occasion it is caused by viruses and by harsh chemicals.
We need to start fighting back as Power Industry money is controlling everything.
My baby sister just died from cancer and I am damned angry about it. Several of the nicest young ladies that I went through high school with are dead from breast cancer. My high school is within fifty miles of San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant. Like all communities within fifty miles or downwind of a so called "SAFE" nuclear power plant we have greatly accelerated rates of cancer.
It is time to shut these damned plants down but it will only happen if we start acting up. Civil Disobedience will be necessary. Think about it and then join up with activists in your neighborhoods to save the lives of our children and grandchildren that have not even been born yet. We owe it to them.
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 27, 2011 10:14:14 GMT -8
We need more, not less nuclear power and lessen our need for foreign oil. Drill in the North, add more nuclear plants, reexamine clean coal. Do it now.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 27, 2011 18:44:47 GMT -8
We need more, not less nuclear power and lessen our need for foreign oil. Drill in the North, add more nuclear plants, reexamine clean coal. Do it now. Um, could you give us the definition of "clean coal"? =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on May 28, 2011 7:07:30 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 11:48:49 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe. Stu is correct. Define "safe". Safer than crossing the street? Safer than taking a bath? Safer than drinking bleach? Safer than a room full of bubble wrap and fuzzy bunnies? Virtually ALL of the energy we use today is safe by any statistical measure you would care to apply. It is also cheap compared to the value it brings to society. It could be much cheaper if stupid people would stop listening to agenda driven communists environmentalists that infest the popular culture. |
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Post by inevitec on May 28, 2011 12:37:38 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe. Stu is correct. Define "safe". Safer than crossing the street? Safer than taking a bath? Safer than drinking bleach? Safer than a room full of bubble wrap and fuzzy bunnies? Virtually ALL of the energy we use today is safe by any statistical measure you would care to apply. It is also cheap compared to the value it brings to society. It could be much cheaper if stupid people would stop listening to agenda driven communists environmentalists that infest the popular culture. "Virtually ALL of the energy we use today is safe by any statistical measure you would care to apply." And yet the same statistics apply to terrorist acts and you get all excited about that. I love conservative situational reasoning. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 18:02:49 GMT -8
Define "safe". Safer than crossing the street? Safer than taking a bath? Safer than drinking bleach? Safer than a room full of bubble wrap and fuzzy bunnies? Virtually ALL of the energy we use today is safe by any statistical measure you would care to apply. It is also cheap compared to the value it brings to society. It could be much cheaper if stupid people would stop listening to agenda driven communists environmentalists that infest the popular culture. "Virtually ALL of the energy we use today is safe by any statistical measure you would care to apply." And yet the same statistics apply to terrorist acts and you get all excited about that. I love conservative situational reasoning. What I love most about dipshit liberals is that when they can't refute a point they change the subject. Do you have something to say about the subject being discussed or are you just another snotty little liberal. If you're saying that I think about terrorism and energy production in different terms, guilty as charged. What's your point? Do you even have a point? Of course you don't. But Hey, so as not to be accused of "situational reasoning", I propose that all power plants entering the country be checked against the DOS terrorist watch list and that all terrorists be fitted with CO2 scrubbers. Fuckin' dumbshit. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 28, 2011 19:06:48 GMT -8
We need more, not less nuclear power and lessen our need for foreign oil. Drill in the North, add more nuclear plants, reexamine clean coal. Do it now. Nuclear power is killing millions of people and you have the audacity to say that you want more to die? Well that is one way to deal with the world's overpopulation problem. But it is a very painful way. Why do you constantly project hate and disregard for human life? |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 28, 2011 19:08:00 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe. Stu is correct. Stu is most incorrect. Nuclear Power is the only industry that kills millions annually. Ionizing radiation is high-frequency radiation that has enough energy to remove an electron from (ionize) an atom or molecule. Ionizing radiation has enough energy to damage the DNA in cells, which in turn may lead to cancer. Gamma rays, x-rays, some high-energy UV rays, and some sub-atomic particles such as alpha particles and protons are forms of ionizing radiation. Mining of Uranium or processing of spent fuel rods contributes to the high death rate from the nuclear power industry. Where ever Uranium is processed the death rate from Cancer skyrockets in the adjoining area. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 19:22:35 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe. Stu is correct. Stu is most incorrect. Nuclear Power is the only industry that kills millions annually. Name one |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 28, 2011 20:19:49 GMT -8
Stu is most incorrect. Nuclear Power is the only industry that kills millions annually. Name one Typical hyperbole on his part. Using the corrolary thoery, if a person dies withing a hundred miles of a Nuke plant, they are victims. I live near the North Anna plant in Va. If I die, it will meet his statistic. Of course, he'll get on Bruce for calling him out as an alarmist. Like I said, if you took his argument out on it's merits, the areas around these plants would be a virtual basket case of death, human debris and other problems. It isn't happening. More nuke plants, clean coal, hydro and domestic oil will help solve the problem. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 28, 2011 21:13:40 GMT -8
Typical hyperbole on his part. Using the corrolary thoery, if a person dies withing a hundred miles of a Nuke plant, they are victims. I live near the North Anna plant in Va. If I die, it will meet his statistic. Of course, he'll get on Bruce for calling him out as an alarmist. Like I said, if you took his argument out on it's merits, the areas around these plants would be a virtual basket case of death, human debris and other problems. It isn't happening. More nuke plants, clean coal, hydro and domestic oil will help solve the problem. Just more of your chronic lies stu. I have repeatedly asked you to get psychiatric help for your delusional problems, but you tell me that all of the psychiatrists are insane. Funny, they think the same thing about you. I have never once said what you are making up here. Most cancer is caused by radiation. In areas where background radiation has increased dramatically like in the United States the cancer death rate has risen accordingly. The southern hemisphere has had little atmospheric testing of Nuclear weapons (The French in Polynesia and South Africa assisting Israel in their coverup of a weapons test.) Consequently a nation like Australia has half the background radiation as does the United States. Radiation accidents, weapons tests, leaking nuclear power plants are responsible for the elevated background. The Cosmic Ray radiation is a standard that does not change much over the years. The radiation that Granite gives off is a fairly standard number. Same with Radon Gas. Nuclear plants and Nuclear tests are the variable. Now, as regards deaths from cancer in proximity to Nuclear Power plants, the increase in the fifty mile circle around such plants is between 15 and 20 percent as I have repeatedly stated. That is barely noticeable by the general public. You do not normally count the number of cancer deaths on your block. Usually people do not know 90 percent of the people who live on their block. I know them all because I frequently collect donations for the American Cancer Society so I usually meet them once a year at least. Even then, they might not tell me that they have cancer, so most of us are totally oblivious to the cancer rate in our communities. In a community like Poway, a hundred residents may die of cancer each year. If 115 died the next year you would not even notice it. Of course, if you started tabulating that community with hundreds of thousands of others all across the land and then noted the fifteen to twenty percent increase in those communities that were within fifty miles of a nuclear reactor plant, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU WOULD SEE THE LIGHT! |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 29, 2011 3:22:08 GMT -8
"Nuclear Power is the only industry that kills millions annually"
Sure. That isn't hyperbole? That isn't chicken littleism? I am the one that is Lying?
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 30, 2011 9:58:15 GMT -8
There are hundreds of thousands of articles that show the close correlation between Nuclear Power and Cancer. Just Google the topic.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 10:04:08 GMT -8
There are hundreds of thousands of articles that show the close correlation between Nuclear Power and Cancer. Just Google the topic. I just Googled "Joe is insane" and got 20,700,000 hits so it must be true! |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 30, 2011 10:45:51 GMT -8
"Nuclear Power is the only industry that kills millions annually" Sure. That isn't hyperbole? That isn't chicken littleism? I am the one that is Lying? If you try to deny the cancer statistics then that would make you a goldamn liar or a complete fuking fool. YOU can chose between the two if you want. I do not try to deny reality. Only you and the pathological liars clique. How did you nincompoops ever get together anyway? I doubt that one univerity could ever graduate four totally fuked up losers in one century. The odds border on zero probability. Again, you've shown the brilliance of your logic. I salute you. By the way, next time you speak to someone's intellect, or lack thereof, perhaps spelling "university" correctly would help the argument... plc hair, decidedly not on fire |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jul 11, 2011 8:49:13 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe... BUT John, some can be more unsafe than others. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jul 11, 2011 9:02:40 GMT -8
At present, no energy that really works and is halfway affordable is safe... BUT John, some can be more unsafe than others. I have posted no end of articles about studies related to low dose radiation exposure. Stu believes that all of the University Professors and scientists who worked on those studies don't know what they are talking about, simply because he lives near nuclear power plants and has not died yet. Stu has obvious serious perception problems that he needs to get help for. Meanwhile I will continue to warn people about the cancer death rates around nuclear power plants being far elevated above average. I have now lost over 20 close friends to cancer. One, a girl I thought of marrying way back in high school. She was a top honor student and had a genius IQ that I find attractive in women. She died of Breast Cancer in her forties after having lived for 20 years in proximity to San Onofre. So sad that she did not know of the danger. |
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