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Post by aztec70 on Jul 6, 2010 16:15:52 GMT -8
Does anyone have any idea on where he might be going?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 6, 2010 16:18:05 GMT -8
Big West
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Post by monty on Jul 6, 2010 16:27:10 GMT -8
He would have been a jr. and used his redshirt,so he's going for one year then? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 13:07:42 GMT -8
NAIA.
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 7, 2010 13:21:05 GMT -8
My guess would be NAIA or somewhere for pay, if he can find it.
I think pay is what he wants, and I think he can get what he wants with one more year of experience by scoring a ton of points at a good NAIA school.
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Post by aztec70 on Jul 7, 2010 14:27:13 GMT -8
My guess would be NAIA or somewhere for pay, if he can find it. I think pay is what he wants, and I think he can get what he wants with one more year of experience by scoring a ton of points at a good NAIA school. Would not D2 be better than NAIA? No need to sit there either. I would think the basketball is better in D2. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jul 7, 2010 14:29:08 GMT -8
My guess would be NAIA or somewhere for pay, if he can find it. I think pay is what he wants, and I think he can get what he wants with one more year of experience by scoring a ton of points at a good NAIA school. Would not D2 be better than NAIA? No need to sit there either. I would think the basketball is better in D2. Maybe. I think he should go either. Just make sure it is as high profile and solid team as he can get. Then put up big numbers. His rebounding stats will be very good at that level. He will need to put up 25 or so a game and he will get his shot over seas somewhere. |
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Post by monty on Jul 7, 2010 14:41:32 GMT -8
APU is NAIA right? who else in socal is; also, if he transferred to DII am I correct he wouldn't have to sit out a year?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 14:57:32 GMT -8
Concordia and Biola have pretty strong hoops programs at the NAIA level. Maybe he ends up at one of those schools. In D2, Cal Poly Pomona has come on strong the last couple of years. According to Wiki, Kentucky Wesleyan has dominated the D2 scene over the years (although not so much in recent years) but they have been in the D2 finals a bunch of times en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men's_Division_II_Basketball_Championship |
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Post by monty on Jul 7, 2010 15:15:54 GMT -8
Concordia and Biola have pretty strong hoops programs at the NAIA level. Maybe he ends up at one of those schools. In D2, Cal Poly Pomona has come on strong the last couple of years. According to Wiki, Kentucky Wesleyan has dominated the D2 scene over the years (although not so much in recent years) but they have been in the D2 finals a bunch of times en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men's_Division_II_Basketball_Championship thanks for the info, |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 17:54:17 GMT -8
D2 is not better than NAIA.
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Post by pokinsky on Jul 8, 2010 17:56:54 GMT -8
pt loma nazarene?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 18:06:46 GMT -8
AD at Concordia says there has been no contact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 18:45:06 GMT -8
Interesting... I was thinking that Concordia might be the best school for him to go to, as far as being located in Irvine and having a very strong program. A friend of mine went to school there from 2002-2006 and they were one of the best NAIA teams in the country during that time. Some may remember, Concordia lost by ONE point to UCLA last season in an early season exhibition. They also beat UC Irvine as well as a handful of D2 schools last year. www.cuieagles.com/schedule/7/2.php AD at Concordia says there has been no contact. |
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Post by aztec70 on Jul 8, 2010 19:12:10 GMT -8
D2 is not better than NAIA. All right. You would know better than me. Why is that so? |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 8, 2010 19:19:00 GMT -8
D2 is not better than NAIA. Wow! That is a controversial statement, it seems to me. Since your credibility in this area is widely respected I cannot simply disregard it. However, it strikes me that NCAA Division II would, in most cases, be stronger than the NAIA. Most NAIA members are very small schools, after all. That's not to say that there are not some good NAIA programs, of course. Could you explain your position on this? In any event, I think Tyrone Shelley's career has, sadly, taken a real hit. It would take a pretty stupendous performance in DII or the NAIA to get the attention of NBA scouts. If I were he, I would try to get an education somewhere along the way since his pro prospects don't look outstanding. After all, there are plenty of NCAA Div I BB players who have solid careers at high major colleges yet never make it in the pros. Shelley will not have that qualification on his resume. AzWm |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 19:28:29 GMT -8
I believe that NAIA - basketball programs specifically - can offer better scholarship packages than many D2 schools can. Typically private schools, more money, etc. I could be wrong, but that has always been my assumption with NAIA hoops.
I have also heard of more D1 bouncebacks to the NAIA level than to the D2 level. This is just of players that I had personally heard of, nothing based on actual number of cases, I have no idea. But my impression has always been what Bekays said, that NAIA basketball is typically stronger than NCAA Division 2 or 3.
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Post by William L. Rupp on Jul 8, 2010 21:25:52 GMT -8
I believe that NAIA - basketball programs specifically - can offer better scholarship packages than many D2 schools can. Typically private schools, more money, etc. I could be wrong, but that has always been my assumption with NAIA hoops. I have also heard of more D1 bouncebacks to the NAIA level than to the D2 level. This is just of players that I had personally heard of, nothing based on actual number of cases, I have no idea. But my impression has always been what Bekays said, that NAIA basketball is typically stronger than NCAA Division 2 or 3. I believe that not all NAIA schools with football programs offer scholarships. Perhaps the same is true of basketball. I wouldn't doubt that NAIA basketball schools with scholarship players are probably stronger than NCAA Div-3 (i.e., non-scholarship) schools as a general rule. Whether they are similarly stronger than Div-2 schools may be something else again. It would be fun to see some kind of NIT type pre-season tournament between Div-2 and NAIA schools. AzWm |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 21:47:24 GMT -8
There are no rules in NAIA (literally no rules), there are all sort of perks for players, there are tons of restrictions for D2 and D3 programs, not to mention D3 has no scholie offers.
NAIA gets a ton of D1, all the guys who don't cut it academically can't just come down to D2 NCAA, they must go NAIA if they want to play. Along with that guys kicked off of team
I must say however that I am only talking about NAIA Div I, as there is a Div II NAIA.
NAIA can also split scholarships for basketball something NCAA cannot do.
On top of players can enter NAIA at anytime. For instance a player gets kicked off his NCAA D1 team, he can immediately enroll in NAIA school the next day and be eligible to play in the middle of the season. You get kicked off a D1 NCAA team you have to sit to next season.
There are a host of other things that make NAIA more attractive for a bounce back player. Not to mention NAIA school can get around grades pretty easily.
NCAA D2 only gets 10 full rides scholie, NAIA offers 11.
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Post by aztecx on Jul 9, 2010 8:24:39 GMT -8
AD at Concordia says there has been no contact. Have you heard anything about where he might be going. Too bad about Shelley. I think injuries just caught up with him. That, and a numbers game. |
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