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Post by aztecwin on May 14, 2011 12:42:36 GMT -8
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on May 16, 2011 9:44:24 GMT -8
I completely disagree with the President on this issue. Just like I disagreed with GWB.
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Post by aztecwin on May 16, 2011 13:19:48 GMT -8
I completely disagree with the President on this issue. Just like I disagreed with GWB. Me too! |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 17, 2011 18:54:11 GMT -8
Alligators in the desert - wonder how much that would cost. Wonder how much the Republicants are willing to put us in debt for that, along with spending on a totally bloated military rather than actually address the real world.
=Bob
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 20, 2011 10:26:23 GMT -8
Alligators in the desert - wonder how much that would cost. Wonder how much the Republicants are willing to put us in debt for that, along with spending on a totally bloated military rather than actually address the real world. =Bob Yeah, they should take away the weapons and training from the military, the computers, the aircraft, etc and let them fight it out toe to toe from now on, who needs an equipped military anyway? |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on May 20, 2011 16:28:50 GMT -8
Alligators in the desert - wonder how much that would cost. Wonder how much the Republicants are willing to put us in debt for that, along with spending on a totally bloated military rather than actually address the real world. =Bob Yeah, they should take away the weapons and training from the military, the computers, the aircraft, etc and let them fight it out toe to toe from now on, who needs an equipped military anyway? Yup, cut the incredibly bloated defense spending by half. And while they're at in, ensure that military welfare slackers like you never get to retire at age 38. You really are a pathetic military apologist. Not surprising given that you've taken advantage of the best welfare system and employment system this country has ever known. The sad part is that you refuse to defend the system that allowed you to retire at age 38 while bitching about how horrible it was that blue collar workers should have to work until they're the age you are now simply because they didn't spend 20 years working as supply clerks. =Bob |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 20, 2011 18:42:00 GMT -8
Yeah, they should take away the weapons and training from the military, the computers, the aircraft, etc and let them fight it out toe to toe from now on, who needs an equipped military anyway? Yup, cut the incredibly bloated defense spending by half. And while they're at in, ensure that military welfare slackers like you never get to retire at age 38. You really are a pathetic military apologist. Not surprising given that you've taken advantage of the best welfare system and employment system this country has ever known. The sad part is that you refuse to defend the system that allowed you to retire at age 38 while bitching about how horrible it was that blue collar workers should have to work until they're the age you are now simply because they didn't spend 20 years working as supply clerks. =Bob I didn't retire at 38 -bob but that isn't the issue. Your phony strawman that followed is comical as you again attribute thoughts to me that are not mine and frankly 180 out from how I think. One thing though, don't misrepresent my serevice in order to make a point. Some of us take what we've done pretty seriously. Feel free to grow up and discuss like a rational adult and I'll be back. Supply clerk? really? Man, you've lost it. This isn't even worth my time. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 21, 2011 6:00:20 GMT -8
Yup, cut the incredibly bloated defense spending by half. And while they're at in, ensure that military welfare slackers like you never get to retire at age 38. You really are a pathetic military apologist. Not surprising given that you've taken advantage of the best welfare system and employment system this country has ever known. The sad part is that you refuse to defend the system that allowed you to retire at age 38 while bitching about how horrible it was that blue collar workers should have to work until they're the age you are now simply because they didn't spend 20 years working as supply clerks. =Bob I didn't retire at 38 -bob but that isn't the issue. Your phony strawman that followed is comical as you again attribute thoughts to me that are not mine and frankly 180 out from how I think. One thing though, don't misrepresent my serevice in order to make a point. Some of us take what we've done pretty seriously. Feel free to grow up and discuss like a rational adult and I'll be back. Supply clerk? really? Man, you've lost it. This isn't even worth my time. It seems to me a thinking person would not attack one of the few legitimate functions of government no matter how efficient it runs. =Bob has not the slightest idea of what it takes to serve or the frequent bumps in the road to a richly rewarding service to one's country. It takes a really small person in every sense to make those kinds of comments. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on May 21, 2011 9:54:56 GMT -8
I didn't retire at 38 -bob but that isn't the issue. Your phony strawman that followed is comical as you again attribute thoughts to me that are not mine and frankly 180 out from how I think. One thing though, don't misrepresent my serevice in order to make a point. Some of us take what we've done pretty seriously. Feel free to grow up and discuss like a rational adult and I'll be back. Supply clerk? really? Man, you've lost it. This isn't even worth my time. It seems to me a thinking person would not attack one of the few legitimate functions of government no matter how efficient it runs. =Bob has not the slightest idea of what it takes to serve or the frequent bumps in the road to a richly rewarding service to one's country. It takes a really small person in every sense to make those kinds of comments. Everyday I see soldiers, Marines and other servicemen and women who are on back-to-back-to-back tours, perhaps their third war, in addition to all the deployments and unaccompanied tours and marvel. These are some of America's best, from every strata of society and are led by some of the finest and dedicated professional people I've ever met. I, frankly, am not even stunned anymore by -bob's ridiculous comments, his loathing, and jealousy that he couldn't serve. He reminds us of a couple supposed "maoists" vets coming back from Vietnam at City College as if that legitimizes his venom or status. He props phony strawmen to poke holes at the military because, frankly, he is clueless. Sadly, he could have made an argument about steep cuts in the military. He could have outlined how he'd do it and whether there was voter support for such ideas but he chose the easy, lazy, ignorant method instead. Sad indead. |
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Post by davdesid on May 21, 2011 13:23:19 GMT -8
It seems to me a thinking person would not attack one of the few legitimate functions of government no matter how efficient it runs. =Bob has not the slightest idea of what it takes to serve or the frequent bumps in the road to a richly rewarding service to one's country. It takes a really small person in every sense to make those kinds of comments. Everyday I see soldiers, Marines and other servicemen and women who are on back-to-back-to-back tours, perhaps their third war, in addition to all the deployments and unaccompanied tours and marvel. These are some of America's best, from every strata of society and are led by some of the finest and dedicated professional people I've ever met. I, frankly, am not even stunned anymore by -bob's ridiculous comments, his loathing, and jealousy that he couldn't serve. He reminds us of a couple supposed "maoists" vets coming back from Vietnam at City College as if that legitimizes his venom or status. He props phony strawmen to poke holes at the military because, frankly, he is clueless. Sadly, he could have made an argument about steep cuts in the military. He could have outlined how he'd do it and whether there was voter support for such ideas but he chose the easy, lazy, ignorant method instead. Sad indead. One thing the =Perfesser assiduously avoids is the fact that even at age 38 a service person accumulated more hours on the job than he did by age 58. (no, I didn't bail at 38 either). Another thing he never mentions is that the service person can't tell the boss to go to hell, and walk off the job like he always could. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 22, 2011 6:59:55 GMT -8
Everyday I see soldiers, Marines and other servicemen and women who are on back-to-back-to-back tours, perhaps their third war, in addition to all the deployments and unaccompanied tours and marvel. These are some of America's best, from every strata of society and are led by some of the finest and dedicated professional people I've ever met. I, frankly, am not even stunned anymore by -bob's ridiculous comments, his loathing, and jealousy that he couldn't serve. He reminds us of a couple supposed "maoists" vets coming back from Vietnam at City College as if that legitimizes his venom or status. He props phony strawmen to poke holes at the military because, frankly, he is clueless. Sadly, he could have made an argument about steep cuts in the military. He could have outlined how he'd do it and whether there was voter support for such ideas but he chose the easy, lazy, ignorant method instead. Sad indead. One thing the =Perfesser assiduously avoids is the fact that even at age 38 a service person accumulated more hours on the job than he did by age 58. (no, I didn't bail at 38 either). Another thing he never mentions is that the service person can't tell the boss to go to hell, and walk off the job like he always could. I did bail at 39 years of age with 22 years of service. Over ten years of that was at sea with over twelve years out of the country. There are so many things about being in the Service as a first career that just can't be measured either on the positive side or the negative side. You have to have experienced it to understand. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 22, 2011 7:21:20 GMT -8
Alligators in the desert - wonder how much that would cost. Wonder how much the Republicants are willing to put us in debt for that, along with spending on a totally bloated military rather than actually address the real world. =Bob Bob, you are posting too much realism. Get back to reality and learn to support the military industrial complex like the rest of Americans. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Right? |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on May 22, 2011 7:34:14 GMT -8
As regards protecting our borders, our beaches are still open. Haitians wash up on them all the time. Many are dead, but a few go on to be social parasites in our welfare system. Their average IQ is below 80. On average a very dumb people who just become welfare cases in our society.
The average Mexican Mestizo IQ is 84. They become good manual laborers, but we have enough of those people in our country already and there are not enough good manual laborer jobs to go around. Allowing more and more lower IQ people to enter this country only adds to criminality. They do become strong Democratic voters, though as they fully support the concept of the welfare system to provide for the lower IQ people in society (Their kind). I suggest that we put the National Guard on our borders with orders to shoot to kill anybody who is trying to enter illegally.
I have long supported sterilization of the lower IQ people so they will stop breeding social parasites. Their birth rate is phenomenal now that the welfare state allows them to stay at home with ample food, medical care and social entertainment expense money. All they do is start breeding at age 13 and produce many many low IQ future breeders who all go on welfare or social security at age 18.
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Post by AztecBill on May 24, 2011 15:16:11 GMT -8
One thing the =Perfesser assiduously avoids is the fact that even at age 38 a service person accumulated more hours on the job than he did by age 58. (no, I didn't bail at 38 either). Another thing he never mentions is that the service person can't tell the boss to go to hell, and walk off the job like he always could. I did bail at 39 years of age with 22 years of service. Over ten years of that was at sea with over twelve years out of the country. There are so many things about being in the Service as a first career that just can't be measured either on the positive side or the negative side. You have to have experienced it to understand. But the real point about the military is it is a volunteer force. If it didn't allow 20 year retirements, it would have to pay a greater salary to attract the quality of folks they get. Its called the free market. 20 year retirement is a great tool to get young men to re-up. How well 20 year retirement does at getting a sufficient force is evaluated every day with recruiting and retainment levels. I only wish the rest of the government workers would be judged by a similar process. How about it =Bob? Have the rest of governments at all levels hire folks for 4 years at low pay and try to get them to stay by offering them the least amount possible to get the right amount to stay. |
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Post by aztecwin on May 24, 2011 16:18:55 GMT -8
I did bail at 39 years of age with 22 years of service. Over ten years of that was at sea with over twelve years out of the country. There are so many things about being in the Service as a first career that just can't be measured either on the positive side or the negative side. You have to have experienced it to understand. But the real point about the military is it is a volunteer force. If it didn't allow 20 year retirements, it would have to pay a greater salary to attract the quality of folks they get. Its called the free market. 20 year retirement is a great tool to get young men to re-up. How well 20 year retirement does at getting a sufficient force is evaluated every day with recruiting and retainment levels. I only wish the rest of the government workers would be judged by a similar process. How about it =Bob? Have the rest of governments at all levels hire folks for 4 years at low pay and try to get them to stay by offering them the least amount possible to get the right amount to stay. You can be sure that it is not the pay only nor the re-enlistment enticements that get peple to want to stay and serve. |
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