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Post by aztecindal on Jun 29, 2010 9:37:18 GMT -8
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Post by Old School on Jun 29, 2010 9:50:20 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines.
They're huge.
We need to address this.
Oldie Out
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Post by dshawfan on Jun 29, 2010 9:58:10 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines. They're huge. We need to address this. Oldie Out I think the process has begun with Bolanos, Unga and Gauld. |
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Post by steveaztec on Jun 29, 2010 10:04:40 GMT -8
I watched a couple of our football games on Direct TV yesterday from last year.
I remain extremely confident that we are making progress. We were 4-8 last year, but still I saw so much improvement in many areas.
The 3 JC OLineman are going to help, Lindley is ready for a big year and our running will be better (not great, but better).
If Rocky's D can keep some pressure on the opponents, I see no reason we can't win 6 or 7 games this season.
The following season I expect 7 wins minimum with a possible 8/9.
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Post by fowl on Jun 29, 2010 10:32:57 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines. They're huge. We need to address this. Oldie Out Bigger doesn't always equal better... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 10:50:07 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines. They're huge. We need to address this. Oldie Out Bigger doesn't always equal better... Really. 342 and 374 pound guards? Are you kidding me? Those guys may be great at pass blocking but they sure aren't going to be pulling out ahead of running backs to lead sweeps. |
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jun 29, 2010 11:07:31 GMT -8
I wouldn't put too much stock into this. The offensive line could have a completely new look this fall, or it might not. Depends on how the competition with the JC transfers goes. They have Kazee as the likely starter at RB, when we know that's probably not the case because of his spring injury and the presence of Hillman. They have Lawson starting at NT when he was moved to DE. In fact, of that defensive lineup, I think we only know for sure that four of them are starting, with one of those, Lawson, playing another position. The fact is they're going to be a mystery this fall, hopefully an exciting one as the pages unfold.
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Post by aztech on Jun 29, 2010 11:56:53 GMT -8
I feel confident the defense can hold its own providing they won't have to be on the field too long. The offense has to minimize those 3 and outs, especially in the second halves.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jun 29, 2010 12:05:44 GMT -8
Almost as important as the talent we have on the field on defense. This means we need a running game. I feel confident the defense can hold its own providing they won't have to be on the field too long. The offense has to minimize those 3 and outs, especially in the second halves. |
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Post by monty on Jun 29, 2010 14:34:13 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines. They're huge. We need to address this. Oldie Out Bigger doesn't always equal better... Seriously, being able to actually move is helpful --- oline as much or more than any position on the field is technique - size might bail you out sometimes, but I'll take a guy with good feet, that plays low, and can play hard every down. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 29, 2010 15:34:47 GMT -8
Bigger doesn't always equal better... No, but it almost always equals better. Face it John, you've been in love with fat, slow linemen as long as I can remember and you've never been correct in your assessment. =Bob |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 29, 2010 15:55:53 GMT -8
SteveAztec is, I think, on the right track. Whether SDSU is really the 77th best FBS team this year is not so important in and of itself. What matters is that this program is seen nationally as one moving in the right direction.
If the Aztecs reach a bowl this year (perhaps not probable but also not out of the question) Hoke will be seen as a serious contender for the "Up and coming head coach" designation. Of course, that would also put him on the "When will a BCS school offer him a job?" list, as well.
I've said it before but will repeat myself one more time; 2010 is a critical year. If we, somehow, some way win 7, the ball will really be rolling and the perception of the Aztecs as hopeless will start to fade. If we win 6, at least the perennial loser label will be lifted a bit. However, if we win fewer than 6, the status of the program will continue to decline. Obviously, we really can't afford that last outcome.
AzWm
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Post by strasburger37 on Jun 29, 2010 16:17:31 GMT -8
Yeah Pre-Season rankings usually end up being pretty far off, especially as you slide out of the Top 50. The Aztecs gotta get to a bowl this year to build some positive momentum to use on the recruiting trail to start bringing in the big fish out there.
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Post by steveaztec on Jun 29, 2010 19:30:18 GMT -8
Yeah Pre-Season rankings usually end up being pretty far off, especially as you slide out of the Top 50. The Aztecs gotta get to a bowl this year to build some positive momentum to use on the recruiting trail to start bringing in the big fish out there. And that will happen. I know it is hard to believe, but this is this year we bowl. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jun 29, 2010 19:56:15 GMT -8
I'm looking at Idaho's and Minnesota's O-lines. They're huge. We need to address this. Oldie Out Bigger doesn't always equal better... Keep telling that to yourself champ. ;D It is the motion of the ocean. |
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 1, 2010 15:33:42 GMT -8
Air Force has never had big linemen. They seem to do ok.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2010 17:21:23 GMT -8
Air Force has never had big linemen. They seem to do ok. AFA teaches cut blocking. While it's not illegal, it should be. |
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Post by monty on Jul 1, 2010 17:33:42 GMT -8
Air Force has never had big linemen. They seem to do ok. AFA teaches cut blocking. While it's not illegal, it should be. But it isn't, and so anybody can do it. They are very disciplined and don't post and chop (which is illegal) any more than teams that haphazardly chop block. I forget which old baseballer said if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying; hell, if you ain't doing what is within the rules you really aren't trying at all --- every lineman should have some proficiency in chopping if only when you're sucking wind, the plays going to the otherside and you know you can't maintain your block, let alone on quick pass plays. |
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Post by aztech on Jul 1, 2010 18:09:22 GMT -8
But it isn't, and so anybody can do it. They are very disciplined and don't post and chop (which is illegal) any more than teams that haphazardly chop block. I forget which old baseballer said if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying; hell, if you ain't doing what is within the rules you really aren't trying at all --- every lineman should have some proficiency in chopping if only when you're sucking wind, the plays going to the otherside and you know you can't maintain your block, let alone on quick pass plays. Have you ever considered that maybe our guys are too slow to even chop block? |
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Post by monty on Jul 1, 2010 20:13:25 GMT -8
But it isn't, and so anybody can do it. They are very disciplined and don't post and chop (which is illegal) any more than teams that haphazardly chop block. I forget which old baseballer said if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying; hell, if you ain't doing what is within the rules you really aren't trying at all --- every lineman should have some proficiency in chopping if only when you're sucking wind, the plays going to the otherside and you know you can't maintain your block, let alone on quick pass plays. Have you ever considered that maybe our guys are too slow to even chop block? I wouldn't think too slow, but not skilled and 'techniqued' enough. We talk about size a lot on here and speed too - and for good reason - but, oline is technique and utilizing one's size and speed right. I saw an oline that pulled pretty well by the end of the year last year and was able to run the ball outside the tackles at times, in general they showed improvement. I am interested to see if they have continued to improve and build strength and speed. Our center is now a 4 year starter, we have a bunch of players that have starting competing for PT at the other spots, we have two big tackles coming into compete - I hope we see some major improvements; I expect we will because I think they are not totally abysmal. |
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