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Post by temeculaaztec on Jul 28, 2009 7:40:52 GMT -8
www.military.com/forums/0,15240,195058,00.html?ESRC=dod.nl Some rational thought on the issue and sure to evoke a response from the Left and Right.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 28, 2009 9:38:19 GMT -8
He's being a bit hyperbolic because the CIA never could figure out the logistics anyway, so claiming that Obama has lessened the tool box is nonsensical. Also, I have not heard whether or not Obama would sign the proposed legislation.
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 28, 2009 10:41:33 GMT -8
Tough issue! I can't seem to get a position to favor. Congress as a whole is leaky, but the CIA needs some supervision by someone other than the Executive Branch.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 28, 2009 14:24:56 GMT -8
Tough issue! I can't seem to get a position to favor. Congress as a whole is leaky, but the CIA needs some supervision by someone other than the Executive Branch. Seems to me the Select Committees on Intelligence are the only ones who need to know about what the CIA is doing and do oversight. Leaks generally do not come out of those committees. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 28, 2009 15:41:48 GMT -8
Tough issue! I can't seem to get a position to favor. Congress as a whole is leaky, but the CIA needs some supervision by someone other than the Executive Branch. Seems to me the Select Committees on Intelligence are the only ones who need to know about what the CIA is doing and do oversight. Leaks generally do not come out of those committees. =Bob That is right, but Congress is pushing for greater and wider access. It should be constricted even more. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 28, 2009 17:03:52 GMT -8
Seems to me the Select Committees on Intelligence are the only ones who need to know about what the CIA is doing and do oversight. Leaks generally do not come out of those committees. =Bob That is right, but Congress is pushing for greater and wider access. It should be constricted even more. I see. You call for oversight while also calling for less reporting to Congress. Interesting notion. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 29, 2009 12:08:49 GMT -8
That is right, but Congress is pushing for greater and wider access. It should be constricted even more. I see. You call for oversight while also calling for less reporting to Congress. Interesting notion. =Bob Same reporting, just a smaller circle of leakers.  |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 29, 2009 13:39:40 GMT -8
I see. You call for oversight while also calling for less reporting to Congress. Interesting notion. =Bob Same reporting, just a smaller circle of leakers. And again, the Select Committees don't leak, so why restrict it even further than just restricting it to them. =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Jul 29, 2009 15:31:23 GMT -8
Same reporting, just a smaller circle of leakers. And again, the Select Committees don't leak, so why restrict it even further than just restricting it to them. =Bob You would have the same level of confidence in the oversight and even less likelihood of leaks with less people in the loop. I would settle for the same size, but would you explain why the Dems in Congress want wider access? |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jul 29, 2009 17:42:08 GMT -8
And again, the Select Committees don't leak, so why restrict it even further than just restricting it to them. =Bob You would have the same level of confidence in the oversight and even less likelihood of leaks with less people in the loop. I would settle for the same size, but would you explain why the Dems in Congress want wider access? Because Bush and Cheney left them out of the loop too often. I don't agree with wider access, but I do understand the sentiment. But quite frankly, given Obama's apparent willingness to listen to the military and the CIA, I don't expect that bill to go anywhere. =Bob |
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