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Post by AztecBill on Jun 24, 2010 16:35:06 GMT -8
Padres have a real (nice) problem. They have 12 pitchers on their staff that are doing pretty well. Stauffer is in the minors and can be on rehab until July 5. Who will the Padres move? They will not go with 13 pitchers, they really could get away with 11. | Pitcher | Age | Salary | | Kevin Correia | 29 | $3,600,000 | | Jon Garland | 30 | $4,700,000 | | Mat Latos | 22 | $407,800 | | Wade LeBlanc | 25 | $400,000 | | Clayton Richard | 26 | $423,700 | | Tim Stauffer (Rehab) | 28 | $415,100 | | Chris Young (60-DL) | 31 | $6,375,000 | | Relievers | | | | Heath Bell | 32 | $4,000,000 | | Mike Adams | 31 | $1,000,000 | | Luke Gregerson | 26 | $416,500 | | Ryan Webb | 24 | $412,700 | | Joe Thatcher | 28 | $412,700 | | Edward Mujica | 26 | $419,800 | | Sean Gallagher | 24 | $413,500 |
Sean Gallagher is out of options. He hasn't been contributing much. He is young and has a lot of potential. If an injury doesn't happen, a trade is the only option I see. But trade a reliever or a starter, or maybe Stauffer right from "AAA"? |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 24, 2010 17:39:12 GMT -8
I wouldn't mind going with 13 pitchers, guys are going to wear down, I just want Salazar DFA
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 24, 2010 18:14:00 GMT -8
We could have a pitcher come down with a phantom injury. Either Gallagher or Mujica would be my choice.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 24, 2010 20:49:27 GMT -8
We could have a pitcher come down with a phantom injury. Either Gallagher or Mujica would be my choice. they would be thrilled |
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Post by lostcoast on Jun 25, 2010 0:27:11 GMT -8
I could live with Mujica taking a vacation.
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 25, 2010 6:34:04 GMT -8
I could live with Mujica taking a vacation. +1 |
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Post by aztecron on Jun 25, 2010 8:15:25 GMT -8
I could live with Mujica taking a vacation. +1 +2 |
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Post by aztecron on Jun 25, 2010 8:16:38 GMT -8
Does anyone else find LeBlanc as frustrating to watch as me? I'd have no problem with Bud putting Stauffer in Wade's starting slot.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 25, 2010 8:24:04 GMT -8
Does anyone else find LeBlanc as frustrating to watch as me? I'd have no problem with Bud putting Stauffer in Wade's starting slot. Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who just gave up more than 2 runs for the first time in 5 games? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who has a 3.16 ERA and is only 25 years old? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who had a 3.69 ERA in 9 starts last year at 24 years of age? We must really have a wealth of pitching talent if a guy like that is "frustrating" to you. Oh wait, I get it, you are a Dodger fan  |
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Post by aztecron on Jun 25, 2010 21:09:49 GMT -8
Does anyone else find LeBlanc as frustrating to watch as me? I'd have no problem with Bud putting Stauffer in Wade's starting slot. Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who just gave up more than 2 runs for the first time in 5 games? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who has a 3.16 ERA and is only 25 years old? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who had a 3.69 ERA in 9 starts last year at 24 years of age? We must really have a wealth of pitching talent if a guy like that is "frustrating" to you. Oh wait, I get it, you are a Dodger fan No Bill you know I'm not a Dodger fan. Back in the early 80's or the late 70's Earl Weaver and the Orioles had a reliever whom I cannot remember the name at this time. This reliever closed for them and every time he came he walked the bases full, or gave up hits that scored runs to make the game close. He always seemed to get the save. Weaver said he smoked a pack of cigarettes in the 9th when he put this guy each and every time. This is how LeBlanc makes me feel when he isn't on with his fastball command. He has a combined H/BB of 111 in 84 innings for a whip of 1.50. I just get scared when his 85 mph fastball is inconsistent like it was in Seattle, against St. L and at TB. LeBlanc's margin for error is less than others. I just think Stauffer if healthy would be an improvement at that starting spot. Velocity and command to me is better than below average velocity and spotty command. Why would you think I'm a Dodger fan anyway? Cause I disagree with you? How ridiculous. Calling a Padre fan a Dodger fan is blasphemy don't you know that Bill? Or are you not enough of a Padre fan to know that? |
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 25, 2010 22:04:06 GMT -8
Mt first place Padres win again 3-0! F#ck the dodgers!!!
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 28, 2010 8:07:39 GMT -8
Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who just gave up more than 2 runs for the first time in 5 games? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who has a 3.16 ERA and is only 25 years old? Is that the same Wade LeBlanc who had a 3.69 ERA in 9 starts last year at 24 years of age? We must really have a wealth of pitching talent if a guy like that is "frustrating" to you. Oh wait, I get it, you are a Dodger fan No Bill you know I'm not a Dodger fan. Back in the early 80's or the late 70's Earl Weaver and the Orioles had a reliever whom I cannot remember the name at this time. This reliever closed for them and every time he came he walked the bases full, or gave up hits that scored runs to make the game close. He always seemed to get the save. Weaver said he smoked a pack of cigarettes in the 9th when he put this guy each and every time. This is how LeBlanc makes me feel when he isn't on with his fastball command. He has a combined H/BB of 111 in 84 innings for a whip of 1.50. I just get scared when his 85 mph fastball is inconsistent like it was in Seattle, against St. L and at TB. LeBlanc's margin for error is less than others. I just think Stauffer if healthy would be an improvement at that starting spot. Velocity and command to me is better than below average velocity and spotty command. Why would you think I'm a Dodger fan anyway? Cause I disagree with you? How ridiculous. Calling a Padre fan a Dodger fan is blasphemy don't you know that Bill? Or are you not enough of a Padre fan to know that? I did use a smiley face. But there are some insults that are so horrendous that even used as a joke indicated by a smiley face is beyond the line. Saying you must be a Dodger fan falls into that category. I am sorry. I just thought that being frustrated by LeBlanc was something more akin to a Dodger fan's feelings since LeBlanc has been so successful while seemingly using smoke and mirrors to achieve his success. I remember opponents in the past who were very frustrating since they seemed so hittable and yet we could never break through. It was frustrating. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 28, 2010 9:18:02 GMT -8
I think its more likely we trade for another starter than to move Stauffer into rotation they said the reason they are working him up so he can throw 80+ pitches is just incase of injury and for long relief
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 28, 2010 10:51:18 GMT -8
I think its more likely we trade for another starter than to move Stauffer into rotation they said the reason they are working him up so he can throw 80+ pitches is just incase of injury and for long relief Read between the lines. If we trade we should be trading pitching for hitting - not trading for another pitcher. We might have Young coming back at some point. That will dissuade them from looking for another starter, at this time. But with Gwyn and Venable hitting well, the Padre may be somewhat less desperate to find a bat. Although a stud left fielder would be nice. But as long as we have Corriea, Black needs to have a quick hook. Corriea is not a pitcher who gets stronger as he works. |
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 28, 2010 11:18:30 GMT -8
I think its more likely we trade for another starter than to move Stauffer into rotation they said the reason they are working him up so he can throw 80+ pitches is just incase of injury and for long relief Read between the lines. If we trade we should be trading pitching for hitting - not trading for another pitcher. We might have Young coming back at some point. That will dissuade them from looking for another starter, at this time. But with Gwyn and Venable hitting well, the Padre may be somewhat less desperate to find a bat. Although a stud left fielder would be nice. But as long as we have Corriea, Black needs to have a quick hook. Corriea is not a pitcher who gets stronger as he works. You don't need to get rid of major league players to a get a backend of rotation type a guy like Jeremy Guthrie or Jake Westbrook. No matter how Gwynn and Venable are hitting the Padres aren't scoring many runs and need a bat. |
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Post by aztecron on Jun 28, 2010 12:52:46 GMT -8
Back in the early 80's or the late 70's Earl Weaver and the Orioles had a reliever whom I cannot remember the name at this time. This reliever closed for them and every time he came he walked the bases full, or gave up hits that scored runs to make the game close. He always seemed to get the save. Weaver said he smoked a pack of cigarettes in the 9th when he put this guy each and every time. I think that would be Don "Fullpack" Stanhouse. Ahh you are correct sir. |
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Post by lostcoast on Jun 28, 2010 13:53:18 GMT -8
A big bat would definitely be nice. Like 5 years ago i remember telling my friend that if the Padres would pony up and get someone like Vlad i would love them forever. Knowing the Pads they probably will get someone like him.... 5 years from now when he's 40 and out of gas.
Anyways, i feel like almost anyone in the bullpen is capable of holding it down, other than Mujica i get nervous every time that guy gets on the field. One of the games i was at we were down by 1 and they put him in and i felt like we might as well have thrown in the towel, even when he gets people to fly out they make it to the warning track.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 28, 2010 15:12:25 GMT -8
Read between the lines. If we trade we should be trading pitching for hitting - not trading for another pitcher. We might have Young coming back at some point. That will dissuade them from looking for another starter, at this time. But with Gwyn and Venable hitting well, the Padre may be somewhat less desperate to find a bat. Although a stud left fielder would be nice. But as long as we have Corriea, Black needs to have a quick hook. Corriea is not a pitcher who gets stronger as he works. You don't need to get rid of major league players to a get a backend of rotation type a guy like Jeremy Guthrie or Jake Westbrook. No matter how Gwynn and Venable are hitting the Padres aren't scoring many runs and need a bat. Stauffer is not a back end of the rotation type of guy. We don't really have any players like that except Gallagher and maybe Corriea. I can't understand how you can think Stauffer is of little value. |
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 2, 2010 11:54:15 GMT -8
Padres have a real (nice) problem. They have 12 pitchers on their staff that are doing pretty well. Stauffer is in the minors and can be on rehab until July 5. Who will the Padres move? They will not go with 13 pitchers, they really could get away with 11. | Pitcher | Age | Salary | | Kevin Correia | 29 | $3,600,000 | | Jon Garland | 30 | $4,700,000 | | Mat Latos | 22 | $407,800 | | Wade LeBlanc | 25 | $400,000 | | Clayton Richard | 26 | $423,700 | | Tim Stauffer (Rehab) | 28 | $415,100 | | Chris Young (60-DL) | 31 | $6,375,000 | | Relievers | | | | Heath Bell | 32 | $4,000,000 | | Mike Adams | 31 | $1,000,000 | | Luke Gregerson | 26 | $416,500 | | Ryan Webb | 24 | $412,700 | | Joe Thatcher | 28 | $412,700 | | Edward Mujica | 26 | $419,800 | | Sean Gallagher | 24 | $413,500 |
Sean Gallagher is out of options. He hasn't been contributing much. He is young and has a lot of potential. If an injury doesn't happen, a trade is the only option I see. But trade a reliever or a starter, or maybe Stauffer right from "AAA"? Sean Gallagher is the odd man out. The Padres now have 10 days to either trade, waive or release Gallagher. |
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