Repubicans Are Screwed

[Bob Forsythe]

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

[Yoda]

You seem pretty happy about that =.

Personally, I hope an ideologue from either party never wins another election.

The George Will piece is, I believe, at www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030404613.html

I get the sense -- especially at the end -- that Will feels as if he is not right wing enough for this Republican Party. All liberals and most moderates have been run off long ago. Are they on the verge of running off traditional conservatives like Will?

Yoda out...

[The Great Aztec Joe]

Would they call it fanaticide when the Republicans go too far to the fanatical right and exclude themselves from the election?

Of course they could hope and pray that the Democrats are fanatically apathetic and don't go to the polls. Shoot, the Republicans would not even have to re-enact that Poll Tax system that used to work so well in the Deep South.

[aztec70]

Mar 4, 2011 17:32:58 GMT -8 Yoda said:

You seem pretty happy about that =.

Personally, I hope an ideologue from either party never wins another election.

The George Will piece is, I believe, at www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030404613.html

I get the sense -- especially at the end -- that Will feels as if he is not right wing enough for this Republican Party. All liberals and most moderates have been run off long ago. Are they on the verge of running off traditional conservatives like Will?

Yoda out...

Ouch.

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Nice troll Bob. I know you're capable of better political analysis than this.

Paul Ryan. Tim Pawlenty. Mitch Daniels. One of these three is likely to be the front runner by the time anybody starts paying attention. Pawlenty has the best ground game in Iowa right now. He would be my least favorite of the three.

Most conservatives I know would not vote for Newt and nhuckleberry has prettty much stepped into the birther swamp the last week or so.

Also. Don't count out the fat man from Jersey. Fiscal conservatives rule the roost right now with the rank and file.

[aztecwin]

I note the time on Bob's post and think it is a little early for him to be in his cups unless some crisis has driven him to the brink. Does anyone live close enough to him to check in and see if some sort of intervention or other form of aid is needed?

[The Great Aztec Joe]

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Almost all of the fundamentalist Christians I know can not stand Newt. There is something creepy about him.

[78aztec82]

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Is that all you have -bob?

This is about the third or fourth time you've psotted this since the Clinton era IIRC. Remember my several consistent psots over the years about the cyclic nature of politics? You never learn, do you? No the Republican Party of Lincoln, Reagan, and Roosevelt is not dead by any stretch. The tent is a lot larger than you fathom. Sure there are people in that party I veheminently disagree with politically but also realize that it takes many voices to make a party whole.
'
No need to worry, except perhaps your own. After I read the comments by Michael Moore that suggest we just ransack all the rich to pay off the debt, I knew we were safe.

The circle continues.

[ptsdthor]

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

[tuff]

Mar 5, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -8 The Great Aztec Joe said:

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Almost all of the fundamentalist Christians I know can not stand Newt. There is something creepy about him.

I don't know about Newt, but if the so called fundamentalist christians don't like him, he's got my vote.

[tuff]

Mar 5, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -8 ptsdthor said:

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

Excellent. I couldn't have said it better.

[aztec70]

Mar 5, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -8 ptsdthor said:

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

Let me offer a different point of view, if I may.

Sensible people don't pay attention to to presidential polics now at this point in the election cycle? I think all of us here, regardless of political view, have an idea of how may be in the running for the GOP side of the ticket. Does that mean that none of us are sensible? While I will agree that none of the conservatives are sensible when it come to politics, I don't think the are not sensible in all things. I see them posting quite sensible posts on the sports board. Frankly, I think Will insulted each and everyone one of us that pays attention to current events.

As to the price of gas. Yes, it sure went up in a hurry. Anyone that pays attention know that the price of oil in fungible. While we may not get a lot of oil from Libya, Europe does, and that is under threat. So if there is a threat anywhere to oil suppys it will be reflected everywhere. We all know this. It will all get sorted out in the long run. Short term is a bitch as it is so unpredictable. Who thought that a young vegatable seller who killed himself to protest his government several weeks ago would cause the Arab world to go up in flames as well? No one.

I, like you, have great concern that the next government is the Arab world will be theocracys.

I am going to continue this later as my client just came in early.

[aztecwin]

Mar 5, 2011 10:35:40 GMT -8 aztec70 said:

Mar 5, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -8 ptsdthor said:

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

Let me offer a different point of view, if I may.

Sensible people don't pay attention to to presidential polics now at this point in the election cycle? I think all of us here, regardless of political view, have an idea of how may be in the running for the GOP side of the ticket. Does that mean that none of us are sensible? While I will agree that none of the conservatives are sensible when it come to politics, I don't think the are not sensible in all things. I see them posting quite sensible posts on the sports board. Frankly, I think Will insulted each and everyone one of us that pays attention to current events.

As to the price of gas. Yes, it sure went up in a hurry. Anyone that pays attention know that the price of oil in fungible. While we may not get a lot of oil from Libya, Europe does, and that is under threat. So if there is a threat anywhere to oil suppys it will be reflected everywhere. We all know this. It will all get sorted out in the long run. Short term is a bitch as it is so unpredictable. Who thought that a young vegatable seller who killed himself to protest his government several weeks ago would cause the Arab world to go up in flames as well? No one.

I, like you, have great concern that the next government is the Arab world will be theocracys.

I am going to continue this later as my client just came in early.

A commodity can be fungible, but saying the "price of oil is fungible" shows you don't quite get the concept of fungibles. That aside, who would have thought that the recent events would unfold as they have? Not me for sure. I thought that Tunisia and Egypt were fairly stable. Libya is understandable at least in terms of how volatile that country is and has been.

Are you close enough to =Bob to look in and see if he is OK?

[Bob Forsythe]

Mar 5, 2011 9:44:48 GMT -8 78aztec82 said:

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Is that all you have -bob?

This is about the third or fourth time you've psotted this since the Clinton era IIRC. Remember my several consistent psots over the years about the cyclic nature of politics? You never learn, do you? No the Republican Party of Lincoln, Reagan, and Roosevelt is not dead by any stretch. The tent is a lot larger than you fathom. Sure there are people in that party I veheminently disagree with politically but also realize that it takes many voices to make a party whole.
'
No need to worry, except perhaps your own. After I read the comments by Michael Moore that suggest we just ransack all the rich to pay off the debt, I knew we were safe.

The circle continues.

Obviously politics run in cycles. But the simple fact is that currently the inmates are running the Republican asylum. Just as an example, there's no way the Democrats should have held the Senate but they did thanks to the Tea Party idiots getting rid of reasonable candidates in some states - Delaware and Nevada in particular. The reaction to '08 has been to run to the right and the country simply isn't that right-wing.

We had that discussion after the '08 election and I'm happy to state again that the Republicans are eating their own right now. Moving toward the middle does not mean compromising values, especially in terms of fiscal policy since the country is relatively conservative on such things. It just means listening the pulse of the country and the Republicans aren't doing that.

=Bob

[Bob Forsythe]

Mar 4, 2011 19:32:27 GMT -8 afan said:

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Nice troll Bob. I know you're capable of better political analysis than this.

Paul Ryan. Tim Pawlenty. Mitch Daniels. One of these three is likely to be the front runner by the time anybody starts paying attention. Pawlenty has the best ground game in Iowa right now. He would be my least favorite of the three.

Most conservatives I know would not vote for Newt and nhuckleberry has prettty much stepped into the birther swamp the last week or so.

Also. Don't count out the fat man from Jersey. Fiscal conservatives rule the roost right now with the rank and file.

WRT the first 3, how far to the right will they have to run to win the primaries? Pretty far I would guess and that's where they run into problems in the general election.

The fat man from Jersey has only been in office a little over a year and really hasn't shown yet if he can bring their fiscal problems to heel. Really, the best guy the Republicans have is Jeb Bush but he's sitting this one out due to Bush family burn out. I look at him in '16 assuming the nut jobs don't now hate him because he appeared with Obama yesterday.

=Bob

[Bob Forsythe]

Mar 5, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -8 The Great Aztec Joe said:

Mar 4, 2011 17:15:05 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Let's face it - You've got nobody. Huckabee ain't running - if he were Faux News would have suspended him (and Palin) but instead they suspended Newty and Santorum, neither of who is electable.

In the meantime, the unemployed rate has dropped to its lowest level in two years while that idiot in Wisconsin continues to slam unions while the vast majority, by the most recent polls, are telling the Repugnantcans to take a long walk off a short pier.

You fools are losing and you really don't have a clue why. The middle class is totally fed up with the Repugnantcan argument that cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs:

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704728004576176741120691736.html

And beyond that, read what George Will has to say about the wing nuts in his latest commentary. If the Repugnantcans had anything to offer, they would do so instead of Huckleberry claiming the Obama's values come from the mau maus:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

Damn, imagine that, people fighting against a colonial power. Seems to me there is something familiar there.

=Bob

Almost all of the fundamentalist Christians I know can not stand Newt. There is something creepy about him.

Well, when you serve your first wife divorce papers after she came out of surgery for cancer and then cheated on your second wife while impeaching Clinton for infidelity, they should hate him.

=Bob

[aztecwin]

Mar 5, 2011 11:05:11 GMT -8 Bob Forsythe said:

Mar 5, 2011 8:59:06 GMT -8 The Great Aztec Joe said:

Almost all of the fundamentalist Christians I know can not stand Newt. There is something creepy about him.

Well, when you serve your first wife divorce papers after she came out of surgery for cancer and then cheated on your second wife while impeaching Clinton for infidelity, they should hate him.

=Bob

Newt disputes the details on his first divorce, but still his personal life is hardly what we would like in a person who would lead our country. He has a lot of baggage, but set his personal example aside, he has the intellect and belief system about economics and politics that would make him a great President. Too bad he has this glaring flaw and I will look elsewhere for a candidate. Maybe Christie!

[Bob Forsythe]

Mar 5, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -8 ptsdthor said:

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

I'm sorry, but don't Will and Krauthammer both write for the "mainstream press"? Did they not criticize Obama's policies? Policy is all well and good if the policies are aligned with the public's pulse but too often Republican policies haven't done that.

=Bob

[William L. Rupp]

The political landscape can change 180 degrees in a flash, so it's too early to be picking winners and losers for 2012.

As for Newt, no, he probably could not win. But, boy, I would love to see him in a debate with the overrated Obama. Newt would slice and dice the Obamacon without mercy. If it were a boxing match, the thing would be declared a TKO in the 2nd round.

AzWm

[aztec70]

Mar 5, 2011 10:35:40 GMT -8 aztec70 said:

Mar 5, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -8 ptsdthor said:

Will correctly points out "sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle".

I just paid $3.99.9 for a gallon of gas. I saw places with nothing under $4.10. The funny thing is that the "good news" of the day is that unemployment went down to 8.9% (in an workforce already reduced by 5,000,000 who are no longer in the statistics) meaning that we actually have 12.X% unemployment relative to 2007. The middle east unrest could result in Theocracy after Theocracy with our Nero fiddling all the while. And state and federal budgets are about to stagnate with debt service being the number 1 issue and layoffs will follow. Housing is still dead and the prognosis ain't all that good. Inflation with gas prices rising and the dollar's fall against international currencies is inevitable. Anyone counting chickens now is delusional.

I know for the libs think it is all about personality and not policy, otherwise, someone in the main stream media would have had at least a few words of criticism for the asinine policies that Obama passed in his first two years.....but no. So, we will see if this slicker version of Jimmy Carter with his 4 or 5 albatrosses around his neck can beat the boring, white Republican who wins the nomination while offering smaller government, increased domestic oil production and a realist in charge of foreign policy, among other things.

Let me offer a different point of view, if I may.

Sensible people don't pay attention to to presidential polics now at this point in the election cycle? I think all of us here, regardless of political view, have an idea of how may be in the running for the GOP side of the ticket. Does that mean that none of us are sensible? While I will agree that none of the conservatives are sensible when it come to politics, I don't think the are not sensible in all things. I see them posting quite sensible posts on the sports board. Frankly, I think Will insulted each and everyone one of us that pays attention to current events.

As to the price of gas. Yes, it sure went up in a hurry. Anyone that pays attention know that the price of oil in fungible. While we may not get a lot of oil from Libya, Europe does, and that is under threat. So if there is a threat anywhere to oil suppys it will be reflected everywhere. We all know this. It will all get sorted out in the long run. Short term is a bitch as it is so unpredictable. Who thought that a young vegatable seller who killed himself to protest his government several weeks ago would cause the Arab world to go up in flames as well? No one.

I, like you, have great concern that the next government is the Arab world will be theocracys.

I am going to continue this later as my client just came in early.

Okay, back to theocracys. It may well be a problem. Why, as the bastion of democracy, are we not looked upon as potential savior for these countrys? Easy, we have been supporting the dictators. Our government, no matter what party was in charge, was always happy to support dictators if that meant that there was "stability". If that meant that the dictator suppressed the population of the country, or even treated the country as if it were his privcate property, that was fine with us. So now that those dictators are falling we are seen as part of the problem not part of the solution.

Who is left in those countrys after the fall? Maybe the military. Since there are few or no civilian organizations that can provide, or even have, the capability to organize a government. Dictators don't allow that. So now we come to the crux of the matter. It is the religious fanatics that have experience fighting the dictators and the organization that can step forward. Not a happy scene. Hopefully there are secular groups that can come forward and bring their country along to a bright future. It is just not evident who they are. I am sure we all agree with that.

Now, as to liberal only being interested in personality and not policy. What a crock. There is no evidence that liberals do not have policys that they support. Shoot, you conservatives are alway complaining about them. Would please come and wander around my front yard while talking. I have been meaning to fertilize.