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Post by uwaztec on Jun 16, 2010 17:48:24 GMT -8
Fhttp://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593/648967
Forget Left versus Right.. if this guy is right, we are in for multitudes worse than we have already seen!!
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 17, 2010 12:48:07 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 18, 2010 15:56:04 GMT -8
Has anyone else picked up on the information that while BP had 760 safety related violations where Exxon/Mobil had one?
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Post by sdtosf on Jun 18, 2010 21:17:40 GMT -8
BP purchased the US congress and they can do whta ever they want!
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 19, 2010 9:31:43 GMT -8
BP purchased the US congress and they can do whta ever they want! Not now they can't! BP is in very deep tapioca, my friend. Clearly, they blew it big time in the construction of this well and will end up paying billions. Among other things, this incident demonstrates why government regulation of an industry does not guarantee that all will be well. Somebody on TV suggested, and I think that this makes a lot of sense, that private insurers, not the government, should be used to insure these wells. A private company would have done a better job checking on what technologies BP was using in the construction of the Macondo well. Even private companies are not infallible, of course. Still, the government does not have the incentive that companies have; the government, after all, is not risking its own money. The government is risking somebody else's money, namely that of the taxpayers! AzWm |
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Post by aztec70 on Jun 19, 2010 15:23:19 GMT -8
Funny, I think our government is of the people, by the people and for the people. Why would they not be the organization that represents taxpayers. Taxpayers are the people.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 19, 2010 15:40:39 GMT -8
Funny, I think our government is of the people, by the people and for the people. Why would they not be the organization that represents taxpayers. Taxpayers are the people. Theoretically you are correct. But in the real world there are inherent reasons why the government is frequently incapable of doing a good job. The most important factor is that the government cannot go out of business. Therefore, government workers and agencies do not feel the same kind of pressure to deliver . . . or else . . . that constantly keeps private sector workers on their toes. (An interesting case study of government versus private action is seen in the response to Hurricane Katrina. Government action at all levels was something less than inspiring. Wal-Mart, on the other hand, got rolling at once and let nothing stand in its way to help the victims. articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHome/RealKatrinaHeroWalMartStudySays.aspxWe all know the feeling of working with govt. employees (e.g. DMV). Sure, many do a good job, but many also give something less than 100%. And with govt. employee unions so powerful these days, it is much harder to get rid of inefficient or lazy employees. Those on the Left, especially the extreme Left, either have a touching, child-like faith in government or have really never thought through this issue carefully. AzWm |
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Post by uwaztec on Jun 19, 2010 16:28:27 GMT -8
Funny, I think our government is of the people, by the people and for the people. Why would they not be the organization that represents taxpayers. Taxpayers are the people. Theoretically you are correct. But in the real world there are inherent reasons why the government is frequently incapable of doing a good job. The most important factor is that the government cannot go out of business. Therefore, government workers and agencies do not feel the same kind of pressure to deliver . . . or else . . . that constantly keeps private sector workers on their toes. (An interesting case study of government versus private action is seen in the response to Hurricane Katrina. Government action at all levels was something less than inspiring. Wal-Mart, on the other hand, got rolling at once and let nothing stand in its way to help the victims. articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHome/RealKatrinaHeroWalMartStudySays.aspxWe all know the feeling of working with govt. employees (e.g. DMV). Sure, many do a good job, but many also give something less than 100%. And with govt. employee unions so powerful these days, it is much harder to get rid of inefficient or lazy employees. Those on the Left, especially the extreme Left, either have a touching, child-like faith in government or have really never thought through this issue carefully. AzWm Everybody hates the Government until they need it! Where do you think Sarah Palin went when that author moved next door to her recently? to the City hall to look over zoning regulations for fence heights perhaps? The USA is stumbling a bit under its own weight, it's happened eventually to every major society and culture since the beginning of time. I still think we do the best job in the World in preserving our natural resources and retaining our way of life. If you want to see disasters go to parts of Indonesia, China, Africa etc. Perhaps the far Right has a "child-like" view that we don't need government. There was an article on Nigeria a couple days ago and they have the equivalent of an Exxon Valdez spill once a year. There is no fishing, aquaculture, turtles etc. over most of that country's coast. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 19, 2010 16:42:53 GMT -8
Don't look now, but this is the worst case. We have an administration who feels compelled to make this a political issue. That is a bad sign. Top priority should be to fix the environmental problem, then have hearings and assign blame.
We have an election looming and Obama's side is probably going to lose. In their twisted liberal minds, they believe they need to act quickly to use this as a "valid pretext" to enact Cap and Trade/Tax.
In the end, we the American voters are going to be the ones to assign blame. A newly elected Congress will be the ones who investigate and clean up the political and environmental sludge.
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 20, 2010 6:04:40 GMT -8
Theoretically you are correct. But in the real world there are inherent reasons why the government is frequently incapable of doing a good job. The most important factor is that the government cannot go out of business. Therefore, government workers and agencies do not feel the same kind of pressure to deliver . . . or else . . . that constantly keeps private sector workers on their toes. (An interesting case study of government versus private action is seen in the response to Hurricane Katrina. Government action at all levels was something less than inspiring. Wal-Mart, on the other hand, got rolling at once and let nothing stand in its way to help the victims. articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHome/RealKatrinaHeroWalMartStudySays.aspxWe all know the feeling of working with govt. employees (e.g. DMV). Sure, many do a good job, but many also give something less than 100%. And with govt. employee unions so powerful these days, it is much harder to get rid of inefficient or lazy employees. Those on the Left, especially the extreme Left, either have a touching, child-like faith in government or have really never thought through this issue carefully. AzWm Everybody hates the Government until they need it! Where do you think Sarah Palin went when that author moved next door to her recently? to the City hall to look over zoning regulations for fence heights perhaps? The USA is stumbling a bit under its own weight, it's happened eventually to every major society and culture since the beginning of time. I still think we do the best job in the World in preserving our natural resources and retaining our way of life. If you want to see disasters go to parts of Indonesia, China, Africa etc. Perhaps the far Right has a "child-like" view that we don't need government. There was an article on Nigeria a couple days ago and they have the equivalent of an Exxon Valdez spill once a year. There is no fishing, aquaculture, turtles etc. over most of that country's coast. You are right in that we do need government, but only for functions that government belongs involved. We do need zoning protection to a point and for sure we need Defense. We need border protection. You have a much longer list of things where the Federal Government should just butt out. You will not get me to argue against protection of the environment. |
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