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Post by Bob Forsythe on Feb 7, 2011 16:21:22 GMT -8
About damn time someone on the right took on that jack wagon. www.weeklystandard.com/articles/stand-freedom_541404.htmlBeck's ratings are dropping like a rock: In a single year, from January 2010 to last month, Beck lost 39 percent of his audience, the steepest ratings decline for any show in cable news. Though he's still averaging around 1.8 million viewers a night, the ratings story is even worse among the most lucrative demo; almost half of Beck's January 2010 viewers between 25 and 54 tuned him out.
Continue reading on Examiner.com: Why is Glenn Beck so angry? So how much longer can he continue on the air? I'm quite aware that most of the right-wing nuts on here don't listen to or watch Beck (although apparently our recently lamented Steve does - not a surprise), but I do think it's another example of what happens with demagoguery - sooner or later, just like Joe McCarthy, they go after their own because they run out of targets on the other side. And I loved his final remarks today - to paraphrase, "Don't take my word for it; go to glennbeck.com and do your own research." =Bob |
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Post by uwaztec on Feb 10, 2011 20:05:15 GMT -8
Biggest whack job of them all. Geez, a guy who "turned 30 and had no friends" and was addicted to drugs and alcohol....then religious savior? House of cards!!
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 10, 2011 23:10:10 GMT -8
Actually, Beck makes a blanket statement that people should do their own research. Going to Beck's website (which I have NOT done, Bob!  ) might well be a first step in doing that research. If one goes no further, that is the fault of the individual, not Beck. I know nothing of the size of his audience, but the latest data I am aware of show Beck still beating all other cable news/opinion shows in his time slot. However, if his show falters, he won't last on Fox. It's a business, don't forget. Bob, Beck is not a conservative. He is not a Republican. He is not, I think, a populist. If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything. Beck values liberty and is wary of government. Both those values appeal to me. One should not assume, however, that I am a huge Beck fan AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 10, 2011 23:15:15 GMT -8
Biggest whack job of them all. Geez, a guy who "turned 30 and had no friends" and was addicted to drugs and alcohol....then religious savior? House of cards!! I find it a bit dismaying that someone who admits he was a loser but has gone to great lengths to straighten out his life should be ridiculed. One may not agree with much of what Beck says on his show, but if one assumes that his reform is genuine, he should be praised for that fact if for no other reason. AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 10, 2011 23:32:31 GMT -8
I must say that Kristol is a bit harsh on Beck. It may well be that an Islamist take-over of all of North Africa is unlikely. It is not, on the other hand, impossible. It would be the second time in recorded history that fundamentalist Islam would hve swept across that region. In the 7th Century, it was accomplished on horseback and with swords. This time is could (repeat could) be done with guns and the Internet. Should that happen, and I hope it will not happen, we would be much worse off.
In any event, Beck is not insane for discussing the possibility.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Feb 11, 2011 17:03:07 GMT -8
Actually, Beck makes a blanket statement that people should do their own research. Going to Beck's website (which I have NOT done, Bob! ) might well be a first step in doing that research. If one goes no further, that is the fault of the individual, not Beck. I know nothing of the size of his audience, but the latest data I am aware of show Beck still beating all other cable news/opinion shows in his time slot. However, if his show falters, he won't last on Fox. It's a business, don't forget. Bob, Beck is not a conservative. He is not a Republican. He is not, I think, a populist. If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything. Beck values liberty and is wary of government. Both those values appeal to me. One should not assume, however, that I am a huge Beck fan AzWm I see. You don't watch him you know nothing about him but you assume he's a libertarian. He's not a libertarian, Will, he's a paranoid schizophrenic. If you'd like to identify with his particular brand of crazy feel free to do so, but Beck expresses everything that's wrong with this country. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Feb 11, 2011 17:11:31 GMT -8
Biggest whack job of them all. Geez, a guy who "turned 30 and had no friends" and was addicted to drugs and alcohol....then religious savior? House of cards!! I find it a bit dismaying that someone who admits he was a loser but has gone to great lengths to straighten out his life should be ridiculed. One may not agree with much of what Beck says on his show, but if one assumes that his reform is genuine, he should be praised for that fact if for no other reason. AzWm Will, have you ever in your life dealt with those in recovery? If you haven't, you are writing out of your ass. Beck shows all the signs of recovery - judgmental thinking, seeing everyone who does things they can't do do as being the same as them. I ran a softball league where 6 of 7 teams were recovery. Until you do that, you have no claim on the truth. =Bob |
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Post by azson on Feb 11, 2011 17:14:43 GMT -8
Actually, Beck makes a blanket statement that people should do their own research. Going to Beck's website (which I have NOT done, Bob! ) might well be a first step in doing that research. If one goes no further, that is the fault of the individual, not Beck. I know nothing of the size of his audience, but the latest data I am aware of show Beck still beating all other cable news/opinion shows in his time slot. However, if his show falters, he won't last on Fox. It's a business, don't forget. Bob, Beck is not a conservative. He is not a Republican. He is not, I think, a populist. If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything. Beck values liberty and is wary of government. Both those values appeal to me. One should not assume, however, that I am a huge Beck fan AzWm I see. You don't watch him you know nothing about him but you assume he's a libertarian. He's not a libertarian, Will, he's a paranoid schizophrenic. If you'd like to identify with his particular brand of crazy feel free to do so, but Beck expresses everything that's wrong with this country. =Bob +1 |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 12, 2011 18:59:21 GMT -8
Actually, Beck makes a blanket statement that people should do their own research. Going to Beck's website (which I have NOT done, Bob! ) might well be a first step in doing that research. If one goes no further, that is the fault of the individual, not Beck. I know nothing of the size of his audience, but the latest data I am aware of show Beck still beating all other cable news/opinion shows in his time slot. However, if his show falters, he won't last on Fox. It's a business, don't forget. Bob, Beck is not a conservative. He is not a Republican. He is not, I think, a populist. If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything. Beck values liberty and is wary of government. Both those values appeal to me. One should not assume, however, that I am a huge Beck fan AzWm I see. You don't watch him you know nothing about him but you assume he's a libertarian. He's not a libertarian, Will, he's a paranoid schizophrenic. If you'd like to identify with his particular brand of crazy feel free to do so, but Beck expresses everything that's wrong with this country. =Bob Ah, Dr. Forsythe, it's great to have a board certified psychiatrist on this website. Your insights are . . . well, I just don't know how to describe them! Let's see if I understand this correctly. You, a retired County planning guy, feel qualified to make a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia for a person you have never met and of whom you have, most likely, no knowledge outside of watching the patent's TV program a few times. Well, that seems perfectly reasonable to me.  As for my statement about Beck's being a libertarian, I will remind you that I said; "If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything." I think most people would, based on that statement, understand that I was speculating. If I thought that Beck was definitely a libertarian, I would have said so straight out. The point is that the West should indeed take seriously the goal of the jihadists, which is to dominate the Muslim world for a start. The odds of that happening may be long, but they are way above zero. When Glenn Beck raises that possibility he is certainly not being paranoid. I wouldn't even say he is being unrealistic. Certainly not any more unrealistic than the Alfred E. Newman-like Obama administration, a group that apparently is unaware of the potential dangers lying in wait in Egypt AzWm ' |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 12, 2011 19:25:02 GMT -8
I find it a bit dismaying that someone who admits he was a loser but has gone to great lengths to straighten out his life should be ridiculed. One may not agree with much of what Beck says on his show, but if one assumes that his reform is genuine, he should be praised for that fact if for no other reason. AzWm Will, have you ever in your life dealt with those in recovery? If you haven't, you are writing out of your ass. Beck shows all the signs of recovery - judgmental thinking, seeing everyone who does things they can't do do as being the same as them. I ran a softball league where 6 of 7 teams were recovery. Until you do that, you have no claim on the truth. =Bob Once again, Bob, you are too quick to jump to conclusions. As a matter of fact, my wife and I spent several years dealing with serious substance abuse by two close relatives (I'd prefer not to be more specific as to their identities other than to say it was not Erik). This was a difficult time, but finally both persons were able to regain sobriety and are doing well now. I'm not sure what that has to do with my statement about Beck's recovery. If his story is true, and why would he claim to have had a substance abuse problem if it were not, he should be praised for having overcome his problem. Beck's politics are a separate issue. AzWm |
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Post by uwaztec on Feb 12, 2011 20:02:17 GMT -8
I see. You don't watch him you know nothing about him but you assume he's a libertarian. He's not a libertarian, Will, he's a paranoid schizophrenic. If you'd like to identify with his particular brand of crazy feel free to do so, but Beck expresses everything that's wrong with this country. =Bob Ah, Dr. Forsythe, it's great to have a board certified psychiatrist on this website. Your insights are . . . well, I just don't know how to describe them! Let's see if I understand this correctly. You, a retired County planning guy, feel qualified to make a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia for a person you have never met and of whom you have, most likely, no knowledge outside of watching the patent's TV program a few times. Well, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. As for my statement about Beck's being a libertarian, I will remind you that I said; "If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything." I think most people would, based on that statement, understand that I was speculating. If I thought that Beck was definitely a libertarian, I would have said so straight out. The point is that the West should indeed take seriously the goal of the jihadists, which is to dominate the Muslim world for a start. The odds of that happening may be long, but they are way above zero. When Glenn Beck raises that possibility he is certainly not being paranoid. I wouldn't even say he is being unrealistic. Certainly not any more unrealistic than the Alfred E. Newman-like Obama administration, a group that apparently is unaware of the potential dangers lying in wait in Egypt AzWm ' Well, how bout flim flam man, snake oil salesman, and shyster? Beck uses the methods of the televangelists (crying for the audience) to manipulate the easily manipulated. It's about time his audience saw through the sham. |
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 13, 2011 7:36:24 GMT -8
Ah, Dr. Forsythe, it's great to have a board certified psychiatrist on this website. Your insights are . . . well, I just don't know how to describe them! Let's see if I understand this correctly. You, a retired County planning guy, feel qualified to make a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia for a person you have never met and of whom you have, most likely, no knowledge outside of watching the patent's TV program a few times. Well, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. As for my statement about Beck's being a libertarian, I will remind you that I said; "If anything, he is as much a libertarian as anything." I think most people would, based on that statement, understand that I was speculating. If I thought that Beck was definitely a libertarian, I would have said so straight out. The point is that the West should indeed take seriously the goal of the jihadists, which is to dominate the Muslim world for a start. The odds of that happening may be long, but they are way above zero. When Glenn Beck raises that possibility he is certainly not being paranoid. I wouldn't even say he is being unrealistic. Certainly not any more unrealistic than the Alfred E. Newman-like Obama administration, a group that apparently is unaware of the potential dangers lying in wait in Egypt AzWm ' Well, how bout flim flam man, snake oil salesman, and shyster? Beck uses the methods of the televangelists (crying for the audience) to manipulate the easily manipulated. It's about time his audience saw through the sham. Don't know exactly why I don't care for him, but this is close. There is something about him that even when you agree with his message you don't care for the way he trys to deliver the message. I am usually on one of the financial channels when he is on so I rarely watch. He must resonate with some people because he has a good market share on cable against what ever MSNBC and CNN put on. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 14, 2011 12:23:34 GMT -8
Well, how bout flim flam man, snake oil salesman, and shyster? Beck uses the methods of the televangelists (crying for the audience) to manipulate the easily manipulated. It's about time his audience saw through the sham. I am usually on one of the financial channels when he is on so I rarely watch. He must resonate with some people because he has a good market share on cable against what ever MSNBC and CNN put on. Win, I understand what you are saying. My own view is not too far removed from yours in this regard. On the other hand, even if all that is true, Beck's stated concerns about big government and the threat from radical Islam should not, on those grounds, be dismissed out of hand. We need to look at things this way; if someone comes to my door and tells me that my garage is on fire I am going to check out the situation at once and ignore the fact that there is something a bit wierd about the guy. If it turns out to be a hoax, who cares? If the claim is true. . . . AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 14, 2011 13:29:21 GMT -8
Don't know exactly why I don't care for him, but this is close. There is something about him that even when you agree with his message you don't care for the way he trys to deliver the message. I am usually on one of the financial channels when he is on so I rarely watch. He must resonate with some people because he has a good market share on cable against what ever MSNBC and CNN put on. Win, I understand what you are saying. My own view is not too far removed from yours in this regard. On the other hand, even if all that is true, Beck's stated concerns about big government and the thread from radical Islam should not, on those grounds, be dismissed out of hand. We need to look at things this way; if someone comes to my door and tells me that my garage is on fire I am going to check out the situation at once and ignore the fact that there is something a bit wierd about the guy. If it turns out to be a hoax, who cares? If the claim is true. . . . AzWm I agree. I just don't like the way he presents things. For the most part what he is trying to tell us has merit, it is just that he is annoying. |
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Feb 19, 2011 7:20:19 GMT -8
Of the shows on Fox, I like the ones where they bring in all sides to debate. Beck and a few others, pack their audience like Oprah does. And, I hate the shows like that Maddox guy who rant and rave, and spew, but this one is on the Mad Socialists Now Bitter Communists network.
HAM
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 19, 2011 8:05:27 GMT -8
Of the shows on Fox, I like the ones where they bring in all sides to debate. Beck and a few others, pack their audience like Oprah does. And, I hate the shows like that Maddox guy who rant and rave, and spew, but this one is on the Mad Socialists Now Bitter Communists network. HAM Do you mean Maddow? That guy that talks out the side of his mouth in creepy riddles? |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Feb 19, 2011 11:01:56 GMT -8
Of the shows on Fox, I like the ones where they bring in all sides to debate. Beck and a few others, pack their audience like Oprah does. And, I hate the shows like that Maddox guy who rant and rave, and spew, but this one is on the Mad Socialists Now Bitter Communists network. HAM Do you mean Maddow? That guy that talks out the side of his mouth in creepy riddles? Would that "guy" be Rachel Maddow? =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 19, 2011 13:11:13 GMT -8
Do you mean Maddow? That guy that talks out the side of his mouth in creepy riddles? Would that "guy" be Rachel Maddow? =Bob I don't remember his first name. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Feb 22, 2011 12:01:22 GMT -8
Would that "guy" be Rachel Maddow? =Bob I don't remember his first name. Kind of homophobic arn't we?  |
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Post by aztecwin on Feb 22, 2011 12:12:36 GMT -8
I don't remember his first name. Kind of homophobic arn't we? Who is "we"? Got a frog in your pocket? |
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