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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 18, 2011 21:17:38 GMT -8
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 20, 2011 10:21:54 GMT -8
I just got the bill for a two night stay in the hospital. It was for $58,000.
That, in itself, cries out for socialized medicine. Those people out there who are working for 8, 9 or 10 dollars an hour usually do not have medical care provided as they are usually working for small concerns that are not obligated to provide medical.
For these people, just one medical emergency like mine could destroy them for life. There is something seriously wrong with a system like that.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 23, 2011 0:21:41 GMT -8
I just got the bill for a two night stay in the hospital. It was for $58,000. That, in itself, cries out for socialized medicine. Those people out there who are working for 8, 9 or 10 dollars an hour usually do not have medical care provided as they are usually working for small concerns that are not obligated to provide medical. For these people, just one medical emergency like mine could destroy them for life. There is something seriously wrong with a system like that. Joe, Joe, Joe - you know damned well that the poor get their emergency room care for free... Socialized medicine is just another governmental branch that becomes rife with corruption and waste. It would become 1/3 of our entire national budget with a population as large as ours - and the system would be completely unmanageable. (The government would have to quadruple it's payroll just to handle the bureaucracy in handling all the claims.) There are companies in place that do the job far better than the government ever could. They just need help in reducing their costs. Obamacare didn't do much of anything to reduce costs. That was supposed to be the whole purpose of, "Health care reform." Unfortunately, on the count of reducing costs Obama and his cronies failed miserably. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 23, 2011 20:25:53 GMT -8
I just got the bill for a two night stay in the hospital. It was for $58,000. That, in itself, cries out for socialized medicine. Those people out there who are working for 8, 9 or 10 dollars an hour usually do not have medical care provided as they are usually working for small concerns that are not obligated to provide medical. For these people, just one medical emergency like mine could destroy them for life. There is something seriously wrong with a system like that. Joe, Joe, Joe - you know damned well that the poor get their emergency room care for free... Socialized medicine is just another governmental branch that becomes rife with corruption and waste. It would become 1/3 of our entire national budget with a population as large as ours - and the system would be completely unmanageable. (The government would have to quadruple it's payroll just to handle the bureaucracy in handling all the claims.) There are companies in place that do the job far better than the government ever could. They just need help in reducing their costs. Obamacare didn't do much of anything to reduce costs. That was supposed to be the whole purpose of, "Health care reform." Unfortunately, on the count of reducing costs Obama and his cronies failed miserably. Not accurate! Some of the poor are given adequate treatment in Emergency Care as long as that treatment is deemed to be urgently needed. Most can not afford to pay for Cancer Surgery, so they just die from Cancer. I could list hundreds of examples of how "I've got mine, so Fug You" is applied to the lower half of society. If you really cared about your fellow man, you would be up sounding the alarm for the revolution that you and I know is coming. Resolution Day is coming. The Fat Cat greedy Republicans are forcing the issue and they will get their comeuppance. It will be bloody and ugly for some time once the riots start. Even so, Come Resolution Day, Come! |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 23, 2011 20:41:08 GMT -8
On a separate topic that deals with the cost of Socialized Medicine. I do believe that we could easily see one quarter of our national budget used to pay for Socialized Medicine and care for the poor. I'll cite an example. I was reading an article today that said that one in four people in Alabama are illiterate. ONE IN FOUR!!! It is also well understood that the average IQ among these illiterates is around 80. I have heard estimates that were lower. It is very hard to quantify low IQ as those people can't take IQ tests, so all the psychologists can do is talk to each and every one to roughly gauge their IQ from their verbal responses. Two different psychologists can be off by as much as ten points in their determinations. Thus the end result is that we are well qualified to gauge high IQ, but not at all accurate in determining low IQ.
The simple fact of the matter is that we allowed a lot of very low functioning people to come to this country to work in manual labor. Their children have been born in this country for generations. They are Americans and they need help to survive. As it is, their birth rate is four times that of the highly intelligent in this country, so we are breeding a very low IQ population base. The state will have to take care of these people. There is not other solution. We brought them here and now we have to take care of them til the end of time, or the end of our government.
The only way we can afford this massive social obligation is to cut way back on our military. I am a strong believer that if we did not have a military, we would be far less prone to get in foreign entanglements. We are paying for Bush Junior's Wars while trying unsuccessfully to climb out of this horrible Depression. I say "Cut Bait and Run" Pull out of these wars, and let Communist China know they can have Afghanistan if they will keep Radical Islam suppressed. We will not raise any objections to whatever they deem necessary to clean up that mess over there. We could have worked with the Taliban to kick Osama out of their country, but Bush wanted his war and he got it. So now we are spending Trillions on a conflict that is unwinnable. As soon as we leave, Radical Islam will take over as I have been saying for the past few years.
Thus we need to withdraw and say to ourselves, "NO MORE MILITARY AND NO MORE WARS!" Say it over and over again like a mantra and then believe it. Eventually we will lay down our arms and be surprised how much money we will have for Social Programs.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 24, 2011 6:57:08 GMT -8
Yeah, because NO ONE has ever attacked this country under a Democratic President (at a time when we've scaled back our military)...  Oh, wait... Mexico is about to erupt in a civil war if serious changes don't happen. We're going to have to deploy our military to the southern border in such a case. Obviously, seriously cutting the military isn't a viable option. So since we can't afford the hundreds of billions of dollars that health care will cost what can we do? Find ways to REDUCE costs. That means saying to the trial lawyers and various unions that THEIR, "Fug you, I've got mine," mantra has to come to an end. It is a tiny minority of the population that is holding the rest hostage economically when it comes to health care. Health care costs can be brought down (Obamacare didn't do much of anything in that department, despite that being the whole stated reason for the debate in the first place), and that should be the #1 priority of the federal government when it comes to health care. Not giving everyone coverage on the government's dime - that kind of thing can be debated later, after the costs issue is successfully addressed. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 24, 2011 22:15:46 GMT -8
No doubt we could save billions each year simply by cutting out waste and duplication of effort in virtually every federal department. As for the military, much could be saved by reducing our bases abroad. But such a move would, politically, not be cost free. The U.S. would lose a lot of influence in the world if our military were, for example, on the level of a France or Great Britain. Would that be good or bad? Hard to say.
What if we had had a very weak military in 1990 when Iraq invaded Kuwait? Saddam might have eventually moved south to take Saudi Arabia, thereby controlling the lion's share of the world oil supply. Would that have been a good thing for the U.S.? Depends on your point of view, I guess. Up to this point we have been the world's superpower and we know what that means, or at least could mean. What we don't know is how we would fare as a second rate military power. Pacifists would probably cheer such a reduction of U.S. power. But they are single-minded. They are not concerned with the international fallout that would result from the end of Pax Americana.
But Joe, to get back to your situation. There are other ways to approach health care reform that would be far superior to the cobbled-together mess that Obama's happy crew has foisted on the American people. If ObamaCare stands, we will be fighting over how to patch it up for decades as its unintended (as well as the intended) consequences create havoc in the medical world.
AzWm
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