BBall-how profitable is our program?

[pokinsky]

School Revenue Expenses Profit
SDSU 4,460,716 3,508,724 $951,992

According to this research the SDSU basketball program made almost $1 million last year ....not bad. 3rd highest behind UNLV (4.5 mill) and Utah (3.5 mill) in the MW.

UNLV brought in double the revenue of SDSU with similar operating expenses? Other than gate revenue, how do college basketball teams make money (fund raisers and bake sales)? I am also very surprised BYU and NM are not higher on the list based on them having the highest per game attendance in the MWC, along with UNLV at 14,000 per game. (SDSU 7,200 per game .. it's hard to expect our team to be a top 25 program when the fan support is #72 in the nation).

Other MWC programs:
UNLV 4,585,948
Utah 3,505,796
NM 162,262
Wyoming 931,590
BYU 76,000
CSU -(1,185,230)
TCU 0


money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/index.htm

web1.ncaa.org/web_files/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2010.pdf

[longtimebooster]

Fascinating stats. However, it's not that helpful to compare profits, because academic athletic departments don't use GAAP when doing their numbers. Some teams siphon off hoops revenue to support women's programs, lacrosse, booster bashes, strippers for recruits, who knows what else.

It's the top-line revenue that matters. I assume that covers everything from booster donations to ticket sales to logo wear to camps to NCAA Tourney $$$ to television. It's actually shocking how low SDSU's hoops revenue is compared to other schools. We've clearly got some work to do.

MGC Hoops Revenue by Team

UNLV: $9.2m
Utah: $6.0m
TCU: $4.5m
SDSU: $4.4m
UNM: $3.9m
BYU: $3.3m
Wyo: $2.7m
C-Suck: $0.9m
AFA: Doesn't report financials


For comparison purposes, here are some top-line numbers for an assortment of teams:

Louisville $25m
UNC: $19m
Arizona: $17m
Kentucky: $15m
Nevada: $4.3m
Fresno: $2.8m
USD: $2.3m
Boise: $1.3m

[E31-Aztec]

Jun 3, 2010 7:34:20 GMT -8 longtimebooster said:

Fascinating stats. However, it's not that helpful to compare profits, because academic athletic departments don't use GAAP when doing their numbers. Some teams siphon off hoops revenue to support women's programs, lacrosse, booster bashes, strippers for recruits, who knows what else.

lolz. Funny, I always thought the AS took care of that expense.

[pokinsky]

Does the football team bring in more money than the basketball team? I would assume these two teams bring in the most revenue for the university?

[longtimebooster]

Jun 3, 2010 8:34:49 GMT -8 pokinsky said:

Does the football team bring in more money than the basketball team? I would assume these two teams bring in the most revenue for the university?

I'm not sure how it compares because of things like donations, sponsorships, merchandise, etc.

But on just a ticket-sales perspective, hoops could soon overtake fball at SDSU.

Here are the ticket-sale revenue numbers for 2008:

Fball: $1.9m
Bball: $1.3m

[aztecwin]

I wonder how TCU ranks so high on BB revenue. They do not appear to have very good attendance at home. At least the games I have seen on TV, they are not very well followed.

[pokinsky]

Jun 4, 2010 15:15:41 GMT -8 aztecwin said:

I wonder how TCU ranks so high on BB revenue. They do not appear to have very good attendance at home. At least the games I have seen on TV, they are not very well followed.

TCU averaged 3,700 attendance which is pretty bad, but not the worst in conference.

AF 2,500
CSU 3,400
Wyoming 4,900

SDSU averaged 7,200 in 2009. Knowing that we have bigger names coming into Viejas and the excitement surrounding the team .. we should be able to average closer to 8,500-9,000 (I hope).