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Post by dshawfan on Dec 31, 2010 18:07:44 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 18:13:04 GMT -8
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Post by dshawfan on Dec 31, 2010 19:04:20 GMT -8
Seemed they could have found someone with a bit more on the resume than what he brought to the table. Of course, I was scratching my head after Auburn brought in Gene Chizik after what he did at ISU, so one never knows how a hire is going to work out, but this is just a disaster. I know we are innocent until proven guilty, but I don't know how he could possibly survive this? |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 1, 2011 10:09:40 GMT -8
A person can but shake their head at some of the things people do.
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Post by Aztec89 on Jan 1, 2011 10:21:13 GMT -8
That is a pretty good board. People can call it as they see it and not get banned. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 10:38:56 GMT -8
Seemed they could have found someone with a bit more on the resume than what he brought to the table. Of course, I was scratching my head after Auburn brought in Gene Chizik after what he did at ISU, so one never knows how a hire is going to work out Chizik at least had previously served as a coordinator at Auburn for a few years. This guy Haywood had no ties to Pitt whatsoever. And scanning their board, not only was he a stealth hire like somebody SDSU recently fired, apparently it was never before disclosed he had a child out of wedlock. I'm not sure what relevance that actually has but failure to disclose it has opened the door for many fans to argue that he and/or Pitt's under the gun AD knew it wouldn't be looked on favorably for a college head coach so they hid that fact. (As I say, I tend to think they just didn't think there was any reason to disclose it.) |
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 1, 2011 10:56:13 GMT -8
He did pretty well for Miami of OH. Why a bad hire? Prior to hindsight, of course. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 1, 2011 10:58:17 GMT -8
Seemed they could have found someone with a bit more on the resume than what he brought to the table. Of course, I was scratching my head after Auburn brought in Gene Chizik after what he did at ISU, so one never knows how a hire is going to work out Chizik at least had previously served as a coordinator at Auburn for a few years. This guy Haywood had no ties to Pitt whatsoever. And scanning their board, not only was he a stealth hire like somebody SDSU recently fired, apparently it was never before disclosed he had a child out of wedlock. I'm not sure what relevance that actually has but failure to disclose it has opened the door for many fans to argue that he and/or Pitt's under the gun AD knew it wouldn't be looked on favorably for a college head coach so they hid that fact. (As I say, I tend to think they just didn't think there was any reason to disclose it.) Is having a child when you're not married supposed to be some type of indictment of character? This is 2011, I don't personally know any sports fans that would care. We're subjected to Antonio Cromatie stories too often. All the Pitt fans will care about is if he can coach a lick. Went 9-4 and won the MAC this season, at M of Ohio. As for "ties to Pitt", I don't see the big deal. What ties to SDSU did Brady Hoke have before he came here? Did Urban Meyer have ties to Florida before he got hired? Wannstedt had "ties to Pitt" and looked how he worked out, lol. Really, SGF, I don't know much about Mike Haywood. I am not saying he was a good hire, just not sure your reasons for why he was a "bad hire" are valid. IF he manages to save his job, the Pitt fans will forget about this stuff real quickly if he wins the Big East. That's the reality of college athletics. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Jan 1, 2011 11:36:27 GMT -8
Love the guy saying they should go after Peterson. Hell of a step down from Boise.
=Bob
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 1, 2011 13:32:29 GMT -8
Chizik at least had previously served as a coordinator at Auburn for a few years. This guy Haywood had no ties to Pitt whatsoever. And scanning their board, not only was he a stealth hire like somebody SDSU recently fired, apparently it was never before disclosed he had a child out of wedlock. I'm not sure what relevance that actually has but failure to disclose it has opened the door for many fans to argue that he and/or Pitt's under the gun AD knew it wouldn't be looked on favorably for a college head coach so they hid that fact. (As I say, I tend to think they just didn't think there was any reason to disclose it.) Is having a child when you're not married supposed to be some type of indictment of character? This is 2011, I don't personally know any sports fans that would care. We're subjected to Antonio Cromatie stories too often. All the Pitt fans will care about is if he can coach a lick. Went 9-4 and won the MAC this season, at M of Ohio. As for "ties to Pitt", I don't see the big deal. What ties to SDSU did Brady Hoke have before he came here? Did Urban Meyer have ties to Florida before he got hired? Wannstedt had "ties to Pitt" and looked how he worked out, lol. Really, SGF, I don't know much about Mike Haywood. I am not saying he was a good hire, just not sure your reasons for why he was a "bad hire" are valid. IF he manages to save his job, the Pitt fans will forget about this stuff real quickly if he wins the Big East. That's the reality of college athletics. The issue and the charge are his alleged brutal treatment of a woman. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 1, 2011 14:24:45 GMT -8
Is having a child when you're not married supposed to be some type of indictment of character? This is 2011, I don't personally know any sports fans that would care. We're subjected to Antonio Cromatie stories too often. All the Pitt fans will care about is if he can coach a lick. Went 9-4 and won the MAC this season, at M of Ohio. As for "ties to Pitt", I don't see the big deal. What ties to SDSU did Brady Hoke have before he came here? Did Urban Meyer have ties to Florida before he got hired? Wannstedt had "ties to Pitt" and looked how he worked out, lol. Really, SGF, I don't know much about Mike Haywood. I am not saying he was a good hire, just not sure your reasons for why he was a "bad hire" are valid. IF he manages to save his job, the Pitt fans will forget about this stuff real quickly if he wins the Big East. That's the reality of college athletics. The issue and the charge are his alleged brutal treatment of a woman. I know that. I am not debating the seriousness of the charge. Go back and re-read. I was only commenting on SGF's talk on Haywood having a child out of wedlock. The domestic assault charge may cost Haywood his job, and if it does, it serves him right. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 1, 2011 15:55:02 GMT -8
The issue and the charge are his alleged brutal treatment of a woman. I know that. I am not debating the seriousness of the charge. Go back and re-read. I was only commenting on SGF's talk on Haywood having a child out of wedlock. The domestic assault charge may cost Haywood his job, and if it does, it serves him right. Do you think I should read the entire thread in order to keep up?  |
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 1, 2011 17:07:21 GMT -8
I know that. I am not debating the seriousness of the charge. Go back and re-read. I was only commenting on SGF's talk on Haywood having a child out of wedlock. The domestic assault charge may cost Haywood his job, and if it does, it serves him right. Do you think I should read the entire thread in order to keep up? LOL. Please. |
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Post by joshjones1 on Jan 1, 2011 17:08:31 GMT -8
Haywood was fired this afternoon. Per ESPN game break.
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Post by AztecPhil on Jan 1, 2011 19:19:37 GMT -8
It's to bad things like this happen, however as an attorney friend put it, he would rather defend a murderer than a spouse in a divorce case. Emotions can get the best of even the most reasonable people of both sexes.
Funny, when I went through my divorce, "The War of the Roses" had just come out and my attorney recommended that I do not see it. to late, I already saw it. She then asked me what I thought of it. I responded I thought it was funny and saw the humor in it. Maybe the good thing about the movie was that it taught me to distance myself from the ex.
Still, as the old saying goes, it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2011 13:07:24 GMT -8
Is having a child when you're not married supposed to be some type of indictment of character? This is 2011, I don't personally know any sports fans that would care. We're subjected to Antonio Cromatie stories too often. All the Pitt fans will care about is if he can coach a lick. Went 9-4 and won the MAC this season, at M of Ohio. As for "ties to Pitt", I don't see the big deal. What ties to SDSU did Brady Hoke have before he came here? Did Urban Meyer have ties to Florida before he got hired? Wannstedt had "ties to Pitt" and looked how he worked out, lol. Really, SGF, I don't know much about Mike Haywood. I am not saying he was a good hire, just not sure your reasons for why he was a "bad hire" are valid. IF he manages to save his job, the Pitt fans will forget about this stuff real quickly if he wins the Big East. That's the reality of college athletics. I wasn't saying I have any problem with the child out of wedlock thing. What I was saying is that the fact nobody mentioned it is being looked at askance by a lot of Pitt fans. That's partly because Pitt's AD apparently made a big deal about what a high-character guy Haywood is. And he apparently made that comment because it's commonly thought Haywood won nine games this year because when he took over at Miami, OH, he sent a bunch of his predecessor's player packing and therefore won just one game his first year. The theory seemed to be that to Haywood, scholarships shouldn't necessarily be honored if a kid tried his best if that best wasn't very good. As to Meyer and Hoke, I know nothing about the first guy's ties to Florida but when Hoke was at Michigan, he was responsible for recruiting California. Further, he coached a couple years at Oregon State so undoubtedly spent some time in California then. |
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