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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 14:00:36 GMT -8
No, I don't try "shove" my beliefs around, but I'm certainly not shy to talk about them. According to my religion, you shouldn't be. There will always be haters in regards to it, but it's not even a sliver of what Jesus went through, so it's all good. The one with the fourth grade mentality would be you, since you LET it trigger you. There's A LOT that gets in your head, and you let it eat you up. Not good. Work on that, it's not healthy. You absolutely do. You mention it *constantly.* In the same breath, you spout hypocrisy everywhere, including this thread. People who have to promote their faith? Kinda know how that goes. I don't care what you believe. It's yours, but I have the same exact right to *not* want to hear it. Perfectly normal. What you fail to understand here has nothing to do with the actuality of the text, but the position of the person utilizing it. And no, nothing you say gets in my head. I close this website and forget you exist in 30 seconds. Focus more on your hypocritical sentiments and less on how other people live their own lives. Wow, you're trigger happy. Sheesh. I DEFINITELY will speak up on my religion when I get a chance, that's for sure and will continue to do so. You bring up religious topics, I'm here to counter them, since we're not on the same spectrum in that regard, that's for sure. I never said that you don't have the right to "not hear not." Don't respond if you don't want to "hear it." That's too tough for you, because it triggers you. Like I said, work on it. I didn't say you get triggered by what I say. I'm saying you get triggered by certain topics VERY EASILY. You can be a hot head, especially if someone/something doesn't align with you. I've never told you to be quiet about your non beliefs,so don't tell me to be quiet about my beliefs. It doesn't work that way dude.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 14:05:57 GMT -8
Not true. I get the point. I'm only saying that what she is saying has some merit, but not all of it. Again, you're making it more than it is. Relax, if you can. Church. State. Separation. Read the Constitution. It's inappropriate. If it was her Congressional account, she would be under fire. That's the BIG difference. It wasn't her work account. People do have their own personal beliefs. Don't let it trigger you so badly. Sheesh. I don't get triggered when I hear someone in Congress, or elsewhere, say they're atheist. Get a grip. That's on them.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:10:41 GMT -8
You absolutely do. You mention it *constantly.* In the same breath, you spout hypocrisy everywhere, including this thread. People who have to promote their faith? Kinda know how that goes. I don't care what you believe. It's yours, but I have the same exact right to *not* want to hear it. Perfectly normal. What you fail to understand here has nothing to do with the actuality of the text, but the position of the person utilizing it. And no, nothing you say gets in my head. I close this website and forget you exist in 30 seconds. Focus more on your hypocritical sentiments and less on how other people live their own lives. Wow, you're trigger happy. Sheesh. I DEFINITELY will speak up on my religion when I get a chance, that's for sure and will continue to do so. You bring up religious topics, I'm here to counter them, since we're not on the same spectrum in that regard, that's for sure. I never said that you don't have the right to "not hear not." Don't respond if you don't want to "hear it." That's too tough for you, because it triggers you. Like I said, work on it. I didn't say you get triggered by what I say. I'm saying you get triggered by certain topics VERY EASILY. You can be a hot head, especially if someone/something doesn't align with you. I've never told you to be quiet about your non beliefs,so don't tell me to be quiet about my beliefs. It doesn't work that way dude. I didn't bring up any religious topic, I posted a quote from a sycophant with a known history of cult-like statements that align with the QAnon conspiracy theorists. If you want to be affiliated with that, knock yourself out. You don't need to counter anything, you're incapable of doing so. I don't go posting about my beliefs because I have enough common sense to respect other people's personal space. Try it sometime.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:13:32 GMT -8
The last thing anyone...and I mean anyone....should want is government being run like a church.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 14:38:02 GMT -8
Wow, you're trigger happy. Sheesh. I DEFINITELY will speak up on my religion when I get a chance, that's for sure and will continue to do so. You bring up religious topics, I'm here to counter them, since we're not on the same spectrum in that regard, that's for sure. I never said that you don't have the right to "not hear not." Don't respond if you don't want to "hear it." That's too tough for you, because it triggers you. Like I said, work on it. I didn't say you get triggered by what I say. I'm saying you get triggered by certain topics VERY EASILY. You can be a hot head, especially if someone/something doesn't align with you. I've never told you to be quiet about your non beliefs,so don't tell me to be quiet about my beliefs. It doesn't work that way dude. I didn't bring up any religious topic, I posted a quote from a sycophant with a known history of cult-like statements that align with the QAnon conspiracy theorists. If you want to be affiliated with that, knock yourself out. You don't need to counter anything, you're incapable of doing so. I don't go posting about my beliefs because I have enough common sense to respect other people's personal space. Try it sometime. The egomaniac strikes again. I'll counter all I want. You just don't like to be counted, or corrected which you need quite often. It's either your view, or nothing. The epitome of a narcissistic person. Not surprising. You brought up a religious quote. I responded. It was on topic. You were triggered. I countered with my own beliefs. Of course you didn't like it. Shocking. Of course you go around and bring your non religious/atheist views into play like this whenever you get a chance. You're not fooling anybody. You just did. You called it a cult. Talk about being a hypocrite.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 14:39:26 GMT -8
The last thing anyone...and I mean anyone....should want is government being run like a church. ANOTHER dramatic take by you. You trying to turn what she said into the Church taking over the State, is par for the course with you. Unbelievable, yet believable. You turning my response into a huge issue, and blowing it out of proportion is vintage you. I only commented on how I felt about in terms of the religious end of it. You're king of making things more than they are. Again, work on these issues I've pointed out. It will serve you well
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:40:54 GMT -8
I assume you were alive three years ago. We already saw this happen - He lost the election, he knew he lost and he still tried to have the election overturned through violent force. He's threatened to terminate the Constitution. He's threatened mass deportations. The ridiculous oversimplifying you're doing here serves nobody. To your point about why didn't Trump declare martial law and bring in the military? He wanted to. www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/12/19/trump-reportedly-asked-advisors-about-deploying-military-to-overturn-election/amp/So, no, it wasn't "way beyond what he had in mind." Here's Michael Flynn talking about it on live television. The ungodly level of pandering here lies second to only your misunderstanding of basic events and the pathetic false equivalences you're generating are nearly as bad. "I'm going to spend multiple paragraphs disclosing false information about how Trump really isn't *that* bad and then say at the end both candidates are the same and I support neither." No. I give up. You win. Trump is the absolutely worst human being ever to draw breath!
Look, this is getting ridiculous. Here I am, a person who has registered Libertarian and voted as such every election (except '88) beginning in 1976. Did not support or vote for Trump both times. My opinion of the man was low before Jan. 6th and has gone way, way down since then. He is a blight on the political landscape and has done a lot to cripple the multiple party system in this country.
I do not think he will win in November. However, were he to win, we would survive his second presidency. That's how strong our institutions are in my opinion.
I wonder whether you agree that we would survive a second Trump presidency. Put another way, if he wins, will you accept the will of the voters? And I wonder what you think of people who vote for Trump.
AzWm
"No institutional damage."
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:45:55 GMT -8
I didn't bring up any religious topic, I posted a quote from a sycophant with a known history of cult-like statements that align with the QAnon conspiracy theorists. If you want to be affiliated with that, knock yourself out. You don't need to counter anything, you're incapable of doing so. I don't go posting about my beliefs because I have enough common sense to respect other people's personal space. Try it sometime. The egomaniac strikes again. I'll counter all I want. You just don't like to be counted, or corrected which you need quite often. It's either your view, or nothing. The epitome of a narcissistic person. Not surprising. You brought up a religious quote. I responded. It was on topic. You were triggered. I countered with my own beliefs. Of course you didn't like it. Shocking. Of course you go around and bring your non religious/atheist views into play like this whenever you get a chance. You're not fooling anybody. You just did. You called it a cult. Talk about being a hypocrite. When have I ever....ever...ever...unsolicited just typed "Oh yeah, I don't believe in God." The answer is never. You're too busy being a bumbling zealot to realize the problem is with Marjorie. Not my problem. Critical thinking is yours, unfortunately.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:50:35 GMT -8
The last thing anyone...and I mean anyone....should want is government being run like a church. ANOTHER dramatic take by you. You trying to turn what she said into the Church taking over the State, is par for the course with you. Unbelievable, yet believable. John, with due respect...you're not bright. I'm sorry, but you're totally incapable of being involved here. There's no dramatization, it's a simple, factual statement. You're so busy arguing with me that you lazily justified Marjorie Taylor Greene comparing Donald J. Trump to Jesus Christ. Let that sink in, then look in the mirror and ask yourself: Why? For someone with staunch, righteous and rooted faith...that *should* be inexcusable. You, of course, would rather argue into the wind irrationally than admit it. Do some actual research on the MAGA movement as it relates to evangelical and divine conspiracy theory, then come back to the table and tell me with a straight face how on Earth you think that's acceptable to filter into a body that shapes our laws.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 14:52:22 GMT -8
The egomaniac strikes again. I'll counter all I want. You just don't like to be counted, or corrected which you need quite often. It's either your view, or nothing. The epitome of a narcissistic person. Not surprising. You brought up a religious quote. I responded. It was on topic. You were triggered. I countered with my own beliefs. Of course you didn't like it. Shocking. Of course you go around and bring your non religious/atheist views into play like this whenever you get a chance. You're not fooling anybody. You just did. You called it a cult. Talk about being a hypocrite. When have I ever....ever...ever...unsolicited just typed "Oh yeah, I don't believe in God." The answer is never. You're too busy being a bumbling zealot to realize the problem is with Marjorie. Not my problem. Critical thinking is yours, unfortunately. Never said you did it that way. See how you twist stuff? I said you'll bring into equation, on topics like this, your non religious views. I never said that you start off a topic talking about your atheist views. Get it straight.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 14:55:07 GMT -8
When have I ever....ever...ever...unsolicited just typed "Oh yeah, I don't believe in God." The answer is never. You're too busy being a bumbling zealot to realize the problem is with Marjorie. Not my problem. Critical thinking is yours, unfortunately. Never said you did it that way. See how you twist stuff? I said you'll bring into equation, on topics like this, your non religious views. I never said that you start off a topic talking about your atheist views. Get it straight. I have it straight - The post says "This person is an influential member of Congress and was on a short list for VP." Oddly enough, not a word about my own beliefs or lack thereof. That's probably because, it's...not about me?
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 15:04:22 GMT -8
ANOTHER dramatic take by you. You trying to turn what she said into the Church taking over the State, is par for the course with you. Unbelievable, yet believable. John, with due respect...you're not bright. I'm sorry, but you're totally incapable of being involved here. There's no dramatization, it's a simple, factual statement. You're so busy arguing with me that you lazily justified Marjorie Taylor Greene comparing Donald J. Trump to Jesus Christ. Let that sink in, then look in the mirror and ask yourself: Why? For someone with staunch, righteous and rooted faith...that *should* be inexcusable. You, of course, would rather argue into the wind irrationally than admit it. Do some actual research on the MAGA movement as it relates to evangelical and divine conspiracy theory, then come back to the table and tell me with a straight face how on Earth you think that's acceptable to filter into a body that shapes our laws. You REALLY need to know that you telling me I'm not bright is absolutely the least most concerning thing that could ever come into my mind. Ryan, with all due respect. You're the most egotistical, narcissistic, condescending person online, that I've ever encountered. So there's that. The problem with you about the mirror thing, is that when you look at it, you drool, thinking that's the smartest person I've ever met. I know all. I've never been wrong and anybody who challenges me in any way, is gonna hear about it, because they're also wrong. That's really a shame. You need to get over yourself, but you're incapable of that. That's glaring. You can't separate the beliefs of the post, opposed to the political side of it because of your hate. You're about the only one that could take her statement, and intertwine Church over taking State with that. You're incredibly dramatic. These people are so far inside your head, I'm wondering what day it will that it explodes. Take a chill pill, and relax. It would do you some good.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 15:05:29 GMT -8
Never said you did it that way. See how you twist stuff? I said you'll bring into equation, on topics like this, your non religious views. I never said that you start off a topic talking about your atheist views. Get it straight. I have it straight - The post says "This person is an influential member of Congress and was on a short list for VP." Oddly enough, not a word about my own beliefs or lack thereof. That's probably because, it's...not about me? Uh huh. Right. Calling it a cult is not stating your beliefs. And you think I'm not bright. Hilarious.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 16:04:35 GMT -8
John, with due respect...you're not bright. I'm sorry, but you're totally incapable of being involved here. There's no dramatization, it's a simple, factual statement. You're so busy arguing with me that you lazily justified Marjorie Taylor Greene comparing Donald J. Trump to Jesus Christ. Let that sink in, then look in the mirror and ask yourself: Why? For someone with staunch, righteous and rooted faith...that *should* be inexcusable. You, of course, would rather argue into the wind irrationally than admit it. Do some actual research on the MAGA movement as it relates to evangelical and divine conspiracy theory, then come back to the table and tell me with a straight face how on Earth you think that's acceptable to filter into a body that shapes our laws. You REALLY need to know that you telling me I'm not bright is absolutely the least most concerning thing that could ever come into my mind. Ryan, with all due respect. You're the most egotistical, narcissistic, condescending person online, that I've ever encountered. So there's that. The problem with you about the mirror thing, is that when you look at it, you drool, thinking that's the smartest person I've ever met. I know all. I've never been wrong and anybody who challenges me in any way, is gonna hear about it, because they're also wrong. That's really a shame. You need to get over yourself, but you're incapable of that. That's glaring. You can't separate the beliefs of the post, opposed to the political side of it because of your hate. You're about the only one that could take her statement, and intertwine Church over taking State with that. You're incredibly dramatic. These people are so far inside your head, I'm wondering what day it will that it explodes. Take a chill pill, and relax. It would do you some good. This may be the most out of touch with reality set of paragraphs I've ever seen. Kudos. Once again, you'd rather trade barbs instead of deal with facts. I'm just over here laughing, but it's just so...sad. So Christians authentically believe it's okay to compare the crucifixion of Jesus to Donald Trump being held accountable by the American justice system? Again, I'll ask you to absorb that statement with an actual thought. You think I'm the only one who considers the MAGA movement and Christofascism to be dangerous? Um...okay. There are dozens of articles that touch on this subject and its inherent dangers to the country.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 16:07:07 GMT -8
I have it straight - The post says "This person is an influential member of Congress and was on a short list for VP." Oddly enough, not a word about my own beliefs or lack thereof. That's probably because, it's...not about me? Uh huh. Right. Calling it a cult is not stating your beliefs. And you think I'm not bright. Hilarious. That's because MAGA meets the literal definition of a cult. "A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." In this case, it's Donald Trump.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 16:14:12 GMT -8
Uh huh. Right. Calling it a cult is not stating your beliefs. And you think I'm not bright. Hilarious. That's because MAGA meets the literal definition of a cult. "A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object." In this case, it's Donald Trump. "He’s definitely been chosen by God,” said Marie Zere, a commercial real estate broker from Long Island who attended the Conservative Political Action Conference in February outside Washington, D.C. “He’s still surviving even though all these people are coming after him, and I don’t know how else to explain that other than divine intervention." I'm not sure how anyone who is actually genuinely interested in this topic and not just arguing for the sake of arguing can look at this and not think this is a cult. This person (and many, many, many like her) share all the characteristics - Fake persecution, a false idol/deity that is above reproach and heavy religious overtones.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2024 16:26:53 GMT -8
You REALLY need to know that you telling me I'm not bright is absolutely the least most concerning thing that could ever come into my mind. Ryan, with all due respect. You're the most egotistical, narcissistic, condescending person online, that I've ever encountered. So there's that. The problem with you about the mirror thing, is that when you look at it, you drool, thinking that's the smartest person I've ever met. I know all. I've never been wrong and anybody who challenges me in any way, is gonna hear about it, because they're also wrong. That's really a shame. You need to get over yourself, but you're incapable of that. That's glaring. You can't separate the beliefs of the post, opposed to the political side of it because of your hate. You're about the only one that could take her statement, and intertwine Church over taking State with that. You're incredibly dramatic. These people are so far inside your head, I'm wondering what day it will that it explodes. Take a chill pill, and relax. It would do you some good. This may be the most out of touch with reality set of paragraphs I've ever seen. Kudos. Once again, you'd rather trade barbs instead of deal with facts. I'm just over here laughing, but it's just so...sad. So Christians authentically believe it's okay to compare the crucifixion of Jesus to Donald Trump being held accountable by the American justice system? Again, I'll ask you to absorb that statement with an actual thought. You think I'm the only one who considers the MAGA movement and Christofascism to be dangerous? Um...okay. There are dozens of articles that touch on this subject and its inherent dangers to the country. Ryan, you're so far out of touch that you can't see that what you're saying is what's out of reality. I don't laugh at you, I pity you, since you can't see how you treat people, and how arrogant, etc, etc, you are. You can't do wrong in your eyes. You think you know all. What a way to go through life. There's the pity for you. I was obviously never equating what she said, to Trump. You made it that way. I was only talking about the religious end of it. If I brought politics into it, then I would understand you ripping me on it. You can't/won't separate it. You jump to conclusions. Again, work on it. Don't be so dramatic. Having said that, I will pray for you. Actually, I already do pray for you whether you like it or not.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 16:41:52 GMT -8
This may be the most out of touch with reality set of paragraphs I've ever seen. Kudos. Once again, you'd rather trade barbs instead of deal with facts. I'm just over here laughing, but it's just so...sad. So Christians authentically believe it's okay to compare the crucifixion of Jesus to Donald Trump being held accountable by the American justice system? Again, I'll ask you to absorb that statement with an actual thought. You think I'm the only one who considers the MAGA movement and Christofascism to be dangerous? Um...okay. There are dozens of articles that touch on this subject and its inherent dangers to the country. Ryan, you're so far out of touch that you can't see that what you're saying is what's out of reality. I don't laugh at you, I pity you, since you can't see how you treat people, and how arrogant, etc, etc, you are. You can't do wrong in your eyes. You think you know all. What a way to go through life. There's the pity for you. I was obviously never equating what she said, to Trump. You made it that way. I was only talking about the religious end of it. If I brought politics into it, then I would understand you ripping me on it. You can't/won't separate it. You jump to conclusions. Again, work on it. Don't be so dramatic. Having said that, I will pray for you. Actually, I already do pray for you whether you like it or not. You have a really, really strange habit of saying something and then immediately saying you didn't say it. I asked you (now twice) since the same person you're okay with blurring the line of separation between church and state literally did just that - She compared the crucifixion of Jesus to Donald Trump's prosecution. So now you don't have an opinion? Backtracking we go... Makes sense, there's no credible argument against it. You're focused on the wrong thing. The religious context (again) isn't the issue, it's the track record of the person using that context. That belongs nowhere near Congress, point blank.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 5, 2024 16:44:52 GMT -8
I really don't know what religion MTG is. The fact that somebody that stupid has gained the kind of power in America she has is damning. She wants to kill all support for Ukraine in their war with the aggressor..Russia. She's just too f****** stupid to understand that this would cause the murder of thousands, if not millions. Not to mention the rapes of thousands. Don't believe it? Just look at what Russia did when they marched into Berlin. She is so clueless, I doubt she could find Ukraine on a map. If that's a religious person, count me out.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2024 17:00:23 GMT -8
I really don't know what religion MTG is. The fact that somebody that stupid has gained the kind of power in America she has is damning. She wants to kill all support for Ukraine in their war with the aggressor..Russia. She's just too f****** stupid to understand that this would cause the murder of thousands, if not millions. Not to mention the rapes of thousands. Don't believe it? Just look at what Russia did when they marched into Berlin. She is so clueless, I doubt she could find Ukraine on a map. If that's a religious person, count me out. That's kinda the point - She's a religious extremist. That's the MAGA movement in general, extremism at its finest. The conspiracies about the cabal and Jewish space lasers and everything else is just the icing on the cake.
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