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Post by aztecryan on Aug 1, 2023 14:14:28 GMT -8
Padres trade for Garrett Cooper from the Marlins for Ryan Weathers.
Cooper had been a target for a while. First base/DH with some outfield.
Padres also land Scott Barlow, reliever from the Royals.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 1, 2023 14:30:23 GMT -8
The Los Angeles Dodgers and Detroit Tigers had a trade in place for left-handed starter Eduardo Rodriguez, but Rodriguez invoked his 10-team no-trade clause that included the Dodgers and the deal is now dead.
Gotta love that the Dodgers didn't improve at the deadline, even if the NL West isn't winnable this year..
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2023 14:34:33 GMT -8
An innings eater? Someone who has only pitched more than 150 innings in a season twice in his career? Ok. This trade really doesn't do much for me, except maybe give us a serviceable option for another starter, instead of reaching down into the minor leagues, and hope that minor leaguer doesn't get lit up before being sent back down. Lugo's max is 101 & he's at 89 now. Hill is a more than serviceable option & his experience is always good on the bench. You just made the point for the trade - he's better, or at worst more consistent, than anyone we have in the minors. That alone makes the trade worthwhile, especially when you add a guy with a .900+ OPS over the past month in the mix who's finally (semi) healthy. He is not an "innings eater". Never has been. |
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2023 14:37:57 GMT -8
Padres trade for Garrett Cooper from the Marlins for Ryan Weathers. Cooper had been a target for a while. First base/DH with some outfield. Padres also land Scott Barlow, reliever from the Royals. Barlow seems to have regressed this season. Perhaps this is one of those "change of scenery" trades that works out for everyone concerned. But he HAS to be better than Garcia. |
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 14:46:12 GMT -8
Choi may be the best move they made. If he can shore up a bench as he's done in Pittsburgh. Helps get Cronenworth out of the batter's box occasionally, too. The rest of the moves, meh. But that's ok. As much as I complain about the play so far this year, I believe the team has enough of the right pieces to get themselves where they want to go. Those pieces just need to get themselves straight. At just 3.5 games out of WC contention, the sky's the limit. Just make it to the WC should be their mantra right now. Doesn't need to be elegant, in fact, if they have to slide into thet last spot because a bunch of other teams soil themselves at the end, so be it. Just get in there however you can. They are built for post season play. Hill adds some important depth - especially if Wacha has more problems or Lugo runs into an inning shutdown, or any of the others start faltering. If he manages to win a game or two, great. As long as he doesn't come in and crap the mound…
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2023 14:50:02 GMT -8
Choi may be the best move they made. If he can shore up a bench as he's done in Pittsburgh. Helps get Cronenworth out of the batter's box occasionally, too. The rest of the moves, meh. But that's ok. As much as I complain about the play so far this year, I believe the team has enough of the right pieces to get themselves where they want to go. Those pieces just need to get themselves straight. At just 3.5 games out of WC contention, the sky's the limit. Just make it to the WC should be their mantra right now. Doesn't need to be elegant, in fact, if they have to slide into thet last spot because a bunch of other teams soil themselves at the end, so be it. Just get in there however you can. They are built for post season play. Hill adds some important depth - especially if Wacha has more problems or Lugo runs into an inning shutdown, or any of the others start faltering. If he manages to win a game or two, great. As long as he doesn't come in and crap the mound… 5 games back with 55 to play. Still have 4 teams to pass to just get the last WC spot. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 1, 2023 15:01:25 GMT -8
Choi may be the best move they made. If he can shore up a bench as he's done in Pittsburgh. Helps get Cronenworth out of the batter's box occasionally, too. The rest of the moves, meh. But that's ok. As much as I complain about the play so far this year, I believe the team has enough of the right pieces to get themselves where they want to go. Those pieces just need to get themselves straight. At just 3.5 games out of WC contention, the sky's the limit. Just make it to the WC should be their mantra right now. Doesn't need to be elegant, in fact, if they have to slide into thet last spot because a bunch of other teams soil themselves at the end, so be it. Just get in there however you can. They are built for post season play. Hill adds some important depth - especially if Wacha has more problems or Lugo runs into an inning shutdown, or any of the others start faltering. If he manages to win a game or two, great. As long as he doesn't come in and crap the mound… Barlow is by far the most important piece. |
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:03:16 GMT -8
Alfaro DFA'd
Again. Guess he's just going to be that guy who gets shuttled around the league. Someone else will take a chance on him, but eventually, he's going to float down to the minors forever. He's a great AAAA catcher, though. Some just can't every break that ceiling. It's a tough game.
Josh Bell on the move again, too. Miami.
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:06:42 GMT -8
Choi may be the best move they made. If he can shore up a bench as he's done in Pittsburgh. Helps get Cronenworth out of the batter's box occasionally, too. The rest of the moves, meh. But that's ok. As much as I complain about the play so far this year, I believe the team has enough of the right pieces to get themselves where they want to go. Those pieces just need to get themselves straight. At just 3.5 games out of WC contention, the sky's the limit. Just make it to the WC should be their mantra right now. Doesn't need to be elegant, in fact, if they have to slide into thet last spot because a bunch of other teams soil themselves at the end, so be it. Just get in there however you can. They are built for post season play. Hill adds some important depth - especially if Wacha has more problems or Lugo runs into an inning shutdown, or any of the others start faltering. If he manages to win a game or two, great. As long as he doesn't come in and crap the mound… Barlow is by far the most important piece. Barlow was acquired a little in the day, this was posted before I saw that acquisition. Yes, he'll be an immediate shot in the arms… however, since June 10th, Barlow has an 8.04 ERA, 17.0 K%, and 13.4 BB% in 15 2/3 innings. I could have done without seeing that. |
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:09:46 GMT -8
How much longer can they waste a roster spot on Carpenter?
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 1, 2023 15:18:49 GMT -8
Padres trade for Garrett Cooper from the Marlins for Ryan Weathers. Cooper had been a target for a while. First base/DH with some outfield. Padres also land Scott Barlow, reliever from the Royals. Maybe Weathers will be an actual "bonafide" starter with a change of scenery. He never was "bonafide" here, that's for sure. I wish him luck, but I got tired of watching him get called up, only to get hammered around the 4th or 5th inning, and many times a lot sooner than that. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 1, 2023 15:19:32 GMT -8
How much longer can they waste a roster spot on Carpenter? They need to cut their ties with him if at all possible. He's just an out waiting to happen. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 1, 2023 15:21:06 GMT -8
Dixon DFA'd for Barlow.
Keep an eye on Sean Reynolds, the other piece in the Miami deal. He's huge, touches 100 and is new to pitching full-time.
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:24:23 GMT -8
Padres trade for Garrett Cooper from the Marlins for Ryan Weathers. Cooper had been a target for a while. First base/DH with some outfield. Padres also land Scott Barlow, reliever from the Royals. Maybe Weathers will be an actual "bonafide" starter with a change of scenery. He never was "bonafide" here, that's for sure. I wish him luck, but I got tired of watching him get called up, only to get hammered around the 4th or 5th inning, and many times a lot sooner than that. Padres did him few favors. I agree that a different organization may be able to work out the kinks in his delivery and help set him straight. He really got jerked around by the organization - to the point that he just seemed like he had little self-confidence left. Hope he does real well in Miami heat. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 1, 2023 15:25:10 GMT -8
Maybe Weathers will be an actual "bonafide" starter with a change of scenery. He never was "bonafide" here, that's for sure. I wish him luck, but I got tired of watching him get called up, only to get hammered around the 4th or 5th inning, and many times a lot sooner than that. Padres did him few favors. I agree that a different organization may be able to work out the kinks in his delivery and help set him straight. He really got jerked around by the organization - to the point that he just seemed like he had little self-confidence left. Hope he does real well in KC. Weathers will do well in Miami. Marlins excel at pitch design concepts. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 1, 2023 15:26:28 GMT -8
Maybe Weathers will be an actual "bonafide" starter with a change of scenery. He never was "bonafide" here, that's for sure. I wish him luck, but I got tired of watching him get called up, only to get hammered around the 4th or 5th inning, and many times a lot sooner than that. Padres did him few favors. I agree that a different organization may be able to work out the kinks in his delivery and help set him straight. He really got jerked around by the organization - to the point that he just seemed like he had little self-confidence left. Hope he does real well in KC. It seemed to me that he was given MANY chances with the Padres to prove himself. I wish him luck. Good guy. |
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:27:15 GMT -8
Padres did him few favors. I agree that a different organization may be able to work out the kinks in his delivery and help set him straight. He really got jerked around by the organization - to the point that he just seemed like he had little self-confidence left. Hope he does real well in KC. Weathers will do well in Miami. Marlins excel at pitch design concepts. Posting while reading another article about Barlow. Hence the KC reference. Yes, it's Miami for Weathers. Maybe Manny will hook him up with some locals. |
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Post by junior on Aug 1, 2023 15:30:25 GMT -8
Padres did him few favors. I agree that a different organization may be able to work out the kinks in his delivery and help set him straight. He really got jerked around by the organization - to the point that he just seemed like he had little self-confidence left. Hope he does real well in KC. It seemed to me that he was given MANY chances with the Padres to prove himself. I wish him luck. Good guy. I think it was more about what happened in-between those chances that made the difference. One way or another, either Weathers was uncoachable, or the Padres pitching coaches couldn't connect with him. Sometimes you need to work with what you've got. It never felt that way with Weathers - or the Padres - always trying to change something to "fix him". As you said, it never worked, and he never really had the kind of breakthrough that would've sent him on a better, different trajectory. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 1, 2023 15:33:42 GMT -8
It seemed to me that he was given MANY chances with the Padres to prove himself. I wish him luck. Good guy. I think it was more about what happened in-between those chances that made the difference. One way or another, either Weathers was uncoachable, or the Padres pitching coaches couldn't connect with him. Sometimes you need to work with what you've got. It never felt that way with Weathers - or the Padres - always trying to change something to "fix him". As you said, it never worked, and he never really had the kind of breakthrough that would've sent him on a better, different trajectory. Yeah, Weathers just couldn't consistently locate the ball. Hopefully with a new pitching coach, it'll click for him. He has good stuff. |
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 1, 2023 15:41:03 GMT -8
Lugo's max is 101 & he's at 89 now. Hill is a more than serviceable option & his experience is always good on the bench. You just made the point for the trade - he's better, or at worst more consistent, than anyone we have in the minors. That alone makes the trade worthwhile, especially when you add a guy with a .900+ OPS over the past month in the mix who's finally (semi) healthy. He is not an "innings eater". Never has been. He's 19th in the league when it comes to innings pitched, and his ceiling for innings is significantly higher than Lugo's (or Wacha's at this point). He's a solid add, and he WILL help eat innings, especially during the upcoming stretch without a day off. |
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