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Post by Den60 on Jun 15, 2023 10:43:41 GMT -8
With Stan Kronke becoming the main investor in this project what do y'all think of the possibility of luring the Arizona Coyotes to the new arena? From the site map, it looks like the new arena can be built without demolishing the existing one. The new arena would likely have to be larger than 16,000 seats (I've heard it would need to be 18,000, though there are quite a few Arenas in the 17K range). The Coyotes currently play in a 6,400 seat arena and had looked at the feasibility of moving to San Diego in the past. I'd much prefer a NHL team than an NBA team.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 15, 2023 11:09:43 GMT -8
With Stan Kronke becoming the main investor in this project what do y'all think of the possibility of luring the Arizona Coyotes to the new arena? From the site map, it looks like the new arena can be built without demolishing the existing one. The new arena would likely have to be larger than 16,000 seats (I've heard it would need to be 18,000, though there are quite a few Arenas in the 17K range). The Coyotes currently play in a 6,400 seat arena and had looked at the feasibility of moving to San Diego in the past. I'd much prefer a NHL team than an NBA team. The vast majority of NHL arenas seat at least 17k, with a vast majority of NBA arenas seating over 17.5k. The Coyotes play in a 5,000 seat arena at ASU, which is reduced in capacity for NHL games to 4600, and the NHL needs to find a solution for the Coyotes sooner rather than later. There are places the Coyotes could move to today, and would be quite successful. Unfortunately, at the moment, San Diego is not one of those places.
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Post by Den60 on Jun 15, 2023 13:29:57 GMT -8
With Stan Kronke becoming the main investor in this project what do y'all think of the possibility of luring the Arizona Coyotes to the new arena? From the site map, it looks like the new arena can be built without demolishing the existing one. The new arena would likely have to be larger than 16,000 seats (I've heard it would need to be 18,000, though there are quite a few Arenas in the 17K range). The Coyotes currently play in a 6,400 seat arena and had looked at the feasibility of moving to San Diego in the past. I'd much prefer a NHL team than an NBA team. The vast majority of NHL arenas seat at least 17k, with a vast majority of NBA arenas seating over 17.5k. The Coyotes play in a 5,000 seat arena at ASU, which is reduced in capacity for NHL games to 4600, and the NHL needs to find a solution for the Coyotes sooner rather than later. There are places the Coyotes could move to today, and would be quite successful. Unfortunately, at the moment, San Diego is not one of those places. Kronke will be leasing the current sports arena which they will maintain until the new one is built. Kronke could be a game changer here given his LA connections as well as his NHL ones. He can't own the team, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind them as a tenant. The current arena holds $14,600 for hockey. Not a bad place for a temporary home. Kronke could be a game changer in this. From 2016 through 2019 the Gulls we averaging about 9K a game. The last 3 seasons they are down to 7.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 15, 2023 15:59:57 GMT -8
The vast majority of NHL arenas seat at least 17k, with a vast majority of NBA arenas seating over 17.5k. The Coyotes play in a 5,000 seat arena at ASU, which is reduced in capacity for NHL games to 4600, and the NHL needs to find a solution for the Coyotes sooner rather than later. There are places the Coyotes could move to today, and would be quite successful. Unfortunately, at the moment, San Diego is not one of those places. Kronke will be leasing the current sports arena which they will maintain until the new one is built. Kronke could be a game changer here given his LA connections as well as his NHL ones. He can't own the team, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind them as a tenant. The current arena holds $14,600 for hockey. Not a bad place for a temporary home. Kronke could be a game changer in this. From 2016 through 2019 the Gulls we averaging about 9K a game. The last 3 seasons they are down to 7. The current arena holds 12,920 for hockey, not 14,600.
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Post by Den60 on Jun 19, 2023 5:57:22 GMT -8
Kronke will be leasing the current sports arena which they will maintain until the new one is built. Kronke could be a game changer here given his LA connections as well as his NHL ones. He can't own the team, but I'm sure he wouldn't mind them as a tenant. The current arena holds $14,600 for hockey. Not a bad place for a temporary home. Kronke could be a game changer in this. From 2016 through 2019 the Gulls we averaging about 9K a game. The last 3 seasons they are down to 7. The current arena holds 12,920 for hockey, not 14,600. Still, 12,900 is good enough for a temporary venue.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 19, 2023 11:31:45 GMT -8
The current arena holds 12,920 for hockey, not 14,600. Still, 12,900 is good enough for a temporary venue. There are several other buildings in this country that are much better suited for an NHL team, and they would be available pretty much immediately, starting with Houston, in a building that can seat almost 18,000 for hockey. The NHL doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see what San Diego does, nor does it really have the desire to put another team in an area roughly 100 miles away from 2 others. We had a chance for the NHL about 50 years ago, but the WHA came here instead, and the team folded before the remaining WHA teams were absorbed into the NHL in 1979.
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Post by Den60 on Jun 21, 2023 10:47:07 GMT -8
Still, 12,900 is good enough for a temporary venue. There are several other buildings in this country that are much better suited for an NHL team, and they would be available pretty much immediately, starting with Houston, in a building that can seat almost 18,000 for hockey. The NHL doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see what San Diego does, nor does it really have the desire to put another team in an area roughly 100 miles away from 2 others. We had a chance for the NHL about 50 years ago, but the WHA came here instead, and the team folded before the remaining WHA teams were absorbed into the NHL in 1979. Again, at one point Arizona explored the idea of relocating to SD. With Kronke involved, you wonder about the potential of adding a pro team here. My preference is hockey for a variety of reasons, one being that I like the fact that SDSU is the big BB draw here. With Kronke's backing, I can see them building a 17-18K arena. Per the site plan, the arena would be outside of the footprint of the current arena with plenty of space left for parking. Also, given the lack of an NFL, NBA or NHL team the market is more open than in Houston. I do agree, Houston makes good sense but with a new arena being built here in SD I think we enter the conversation. A few years ago there were some 4 other cities in front of us for a MLS team.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 21, 2023 11:20:41 GMT -8
There are several other buildings in this country that are much better suited for an NHL team, and they would be available pretty much immediately, starting with Houston, in a building that can seat almost 18,000 for hockey. The NHL doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see what San Diego does, nor does it really have the desire to put another team in an area roughly 100 miles away from 2 others. We had a chance for the NHL about 50 years ago, but the WHA came here instead, and the team folded before the remaining WHA teams were absorbed into the NHL in 1979. Again, at one point Arizona explored the idea of relocating to SD. With Kronke involved, you wonder about the potential of adding a pro team here. My preference is hockey for a variety of reasons, one being that I like the fact that SDSU is the big BB draw here. With Kronke's backing, I can see them building a 17-18K arena. Per the site plan, the arena would be outside of the footprint of the current arena with plenty of space left for parking. Also, given the lack of an NFL, NBA or NHL team the market is more open than in Houston. I do agree, Houston makes good sense but with a new arena being built here in SD I think we enter the conversation. A few years ago there were some 4 other cities in front of us for a MLS team. The NHL can't wait for San Diego to build a new arena. There would also be plenty of blowback from the Kings and Ducks. The Coyotes (if they do relocate to Houston) would only be the 2nd NHL team in Texas, and I think would be wildly successful. EDIT: It also allows the NHL to make the franchise location better in relation to the other teams in the Central Division.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 25, 2024 12:05:39 GMT -8
There are several other buildings in this country that are much better suited for an NHL team, and they would be available pretty much immediately, starting with Houston, in a building that can seat almost 18,000 for hockey. The NHL doesn't have the luxury of waiting to see what San Diego does, nor does it really have the desire to put another team in an area roughly 100 miles away from 2 others. We had a chance for the NHL about 50 years ago, but the WHA came here instead, and the team folded before the remaining WHA teams were absorbed into the NHL in 1979. Again, at one point Arizona explored the idea of relocating to SD. With Kronke involved, you wonder about the potential of adding a pro team here. My preference is hockey for a variety of reasons, one being that I like the fact that SDSU is the big BB draw here. With Kronke's backing, I can see them building a 17-18K arena. Per the site plan, the arena would be outside of the footprint of the current arena with plenty of space left for parking. Also, given the lack of an NFL, NBA or NHL team the market is more open than in Houston. I do agree, Houston makes good sense but with a new arena being built here in SD I think we enter the conversation. A few years ago there were some 4 other cities in front of us for a MLS team. Out of curiosity, when did any of the Arizona hockey ownership groups EVER consider moving to San Diego?
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