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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 11, 2023 14:07:59 GMT -8
Nelson Cruz will be a Padre this year. Most likely a DH vs lefties, good clubhouse guy. Solid veteran presence, 41 years old!
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Post by junior on Jan 11, 2023 21:28:55 GMT -8
42 and a half, but who's going to count them all after 40 … LOL … Nationals paid him $15M last season for one year. The San Diego Discount is strong. Padres will pay him $1M
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 11, 2023 21:46:31 GMT -8
He'll hopefully help out in the pinch hitting department as well.
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Post by sdsuball on Jan 11, 2023 22:26:20 GMT -8
Solid pickup. It's clear at this point in FA that the Padres are hunting for deals in the market,
Perhaps the Pads will start the season off giving multiple guys a chance to start (Morejon, Martinez, Lugo, and others) and see what sticks/where they are at before making or not making a trade for another starter. Sure seems like the Marlins are expecting to make a trade with how loaded they are at SP... I wonder where they are at with the Padres on a possible trade.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2023 22:57:16 GMT -8
Solid pickup. It's clear at this point in FA that the Padres are hunting for deals in the market, Perhaps the Pads will start the season off giving multiple guys a chance to start (Morejon, Martinez, Lugo, and others) and see what sticks/where they are at before making or not making a trade for another starter. Sure seems like the Marlins are expecting to make a trade with how loaded they are at SP... I wonder where they are at with the Padres on a possible trade. Nowhere at the moment.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2023 11:08:29 GMT -8
He's a freaking Senior Citizen by MLB standards. Well past retirement age.
He'll take the roster spot of someone young enough to actually contribute and stick around for 2 or 3 more years.
I mean, good clubhouse guy, and that's nice. But he's the age of an experienced coach, not a player.
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Post by aardvark on Jan 12, 2023 15:14:11 GMT -8
He's a freaking Senior Citizen by MLB standards. Well past retirement age. He'll take the roster spot of someone young enough to actually contribute and stick around for 2 or 3 more years. I mean, good clubhouse guy, and that's nice. But he's the age of an experienced coach, not a player. And if he doesn't hit, he could easily be replaced by one of those young players.
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Post by junior on Jan 12, 2023 19:11:46 GMT -8
He'll be making slightly more than the minimum. It'd be relatively easy to say sayonara if things go badly. But I think they'd have to go really badly - like he gets hurt or worse. If he can fill in as a DH or PH, and play a little 1B when there's a day game following a night game, he'll have earned his keep. Anything beyond that is gravy.
Just the sight of him headed to the on-deck circle as a PH could incite a few pitching changes this season.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2023 21:02:27 GMT -8
He'll be making slightly more than the minimum. It'd be relatively easy to say sayonara if things go badly. But I think they'd have to go really badly - like he gets hurt or worse. If he can fill in as a DH or PH, and play a little 1B when there's a day game following a night game, he'll have earned his keep. Anything beyond that is gravy. Just the sight of him headed to the on-deck circle as a PH could incite a few pitching changes this season.Maybe a few years ago, but not at 42/43 years old. Age gets us all, and it's gotten him. Fact. His bat speed is slower, his coordination not as good, his strength lower, his eyesight worse - he's 42 right now. Those things happen to EVERYONE at that age. Opposing managers will love having him come up. This isn't like Tom Brady playing QB at 42. This will be more like Peyton Manning playing QB at 38. Time is cruel, and it takes us all apart. I'm finding this out first hand.
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Post by aardvark on Jan 12, 2023 23:03:01 GMT -8
He'll be making slightly more than the minimum. It'd be relatively easy to say sayonara if things go badly. But I think they'd have to go really badly - like he gets hurt or worse. If he can fill in as a DH or PH, and play a little 1B when there's a day game following a night game, he'll have earned his keep. Anything beyond that is gravy. Just the sight of him headed to the on-deck circle as a PH could incite a few pitching changes this season.Maybe a few years ago, but not at 42/43 years old. Age gets us all, and it's gotten him. Fact. His bat speed is slower, his coordination not as good, his strength lower, his eyesight worse - he's 42 right now. Those things happen to EVERYONE at that age. Opposing managers will love having him come up. This isn't like Tom Brady playing QB at 42. This will be more like Peyton Manning playing QB at 38. Time is cruel, and it takes us all apart. I'm finding this out first hand. If Cruz plays baseball at 42 the way Manning played at 38, Cruz will be an all star.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 12, 2023 23:14:20 GMT -8
Maybe a few years ago, but not at 42/43 years old. Age gets us all, and it's gotten him. Fact. His bat speed is slower, his coordination not as good, his strength lower, his eyesight worse - he's 42 right now. Those things happen to EVERYONE at that age. Opposing managers will love having him come up. This isn't like Tom Brady playing QB at 42. This will be more like Peyton Manning playing QB at 38. Time is cruel, and it takes us all apart. I'm finding this out first hand. If Cruz plays baseball at 42 the way Manning played at 38, Cruz will be an all star. At 38 Manning could barely throw the ball 25 yards. A year or two earlier he was great, but he fell off a cliff for that last season. Remember, he got benched for a while. And that's kind of my point. He hit the wall. He fell off a cliff. His decline was rapid. Moreso than most. But it happened before 40. Cruz is 42. Again, how many players in the league are over 40? How many players over 40 have been good at the plate in the history of baseball? Not many.
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Post by aardvark on Jan 12, 2023 23:16:25 GMT -8
If Cruz plays baseball at 42 the way Manning played at 38, Cruz will be an all star. At 38 Manning could barely throw the ball 25 yards. A year or two earlier he was great, but he fell off a cliff for that last season. Remember, he got benched for a while. And that's kind of my point. He hit the wall. He fell off a cliff. His decline was rapid. Moreso than most. But it happened before 40. Cruz is 42. Again, how many players in the league are over 40? How many players over 40 have been good at the plate in the history of baseball? Not many. Look at his numbers again at age 38 and get back to me.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 13, 2023 8:47:12 GMT -8
At 38 Manning could barely throw the ball 25 yards. A year or two earlier he was great, but he fell off a cliff for that last season. Remember, he got benched for a while. And that's kind of my point. He hit the wall. He fell off a cliff. His decline was rapid. Moreso than most. But it happened before 40. Cruz is 42. Again, how many players in the league are over 40? How many players over 40 have been good at the plate in the history of baseball? Not many. Look at his numbers again at age 38 and get back to me. Again, I was talking about Manning's final season. So he was 39, not 38. Fine. The point remains - his effectiveness fell off a cliff, and he wasn't even 40 yet. Time, and the wear and tear that comes with it, caught up with him.
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Post by aardvark on Jan 13, 2023 15:26:54 GMT -8
Look at his numbers again at age 38 and get back to me. Again, I was talking about Manning's final season. So he was 39, not 38. Fine. The point remains - his effectiveness fell off a cliff, and he wasn't even 40 yet. Time, and the wear and tear that comes with it, caught up with him. Again, if your post hadn't said 38...
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 13, 2023 15:37:48 GMT -8
Again, I was talking about Manning's final season. So he was 39, not 38. Fine. The point remains - his effectiveness fell off a cliff, and he wasn't even 40 yet. Time, and the wear and tear that comes with it, caught up with him. Again, if your post hadn't said 38... Nitpicker.
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Post by survalli on Jan 13, 2023 16:51:44 GMT -8
1 mil is a bargain to spin the tires. IMO he is probably washed up, but he will be invaluable as a club house guy. If he is washed up they will send him packing just like they did with Robinson Cano
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Post by bballfan11 on Apr 10, 2023 7:45:03 GMT -8
He'll be making slightly more than the minimum. It'd be relatively easy to say sayonara if things go badly. But I think they'd have to go really badly - like he gets hurt or worse. If he can fill in as a DH or PH, and play a little 1B when there's a day game following a night game, he'll have earned his keep. Anything beyond that is gravy. Just the sight of him headed to the on-deck circle as a PH could incite a few pitching changes this season.Maybe a few years ago, but not at 42/43 years old. Age gets us all, and it's gotten him. Fact. His bat speed is slower, his coordination not as good, his strength lower, his eyesight worse - he's 42 right now. Those things happen to EVERYONE at that age. Opposing managers will love having him come up. This isn't like Tom Brady playing QB at 42. This will be more like Peyton Manning playing QB at 38. Time is cruel, and it takes us all apart. I'm finding this out first hand. The “senior citizen” has contributed pretty well so far! 3 hits in the last 2 games. Leading the team with 9 RBIs. Not bad a for a 42 year old Seems like a solid pick up so far, you agree?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 10, 2023 8:11:53 GMT -8
Maybe a few years ago, but not at 42/43 years old. Age gets us all, and it's gotten him. Fact. His bat speed is slower, his coordination not as good, his strength lower, his eyesight worse - he's 42 right now. Those things happen to EVERYONE at that age. Opposing managers will love having him come up. This isn't like Tom Brady playing QB at 42. This will be more like Peyton Manning playing QB at 38. Time is cruel, and it takes us all apart. I'm finding this out first hand. The “senior citizen” has contributed pretty well so far! 3 hits in the last 2 games. Leading the team with 9 RBIs. Not bad a for a 42 year old Seems like a solid pick up so far, you agree? So far? Absolutely. If he hits like this for the entire season he'll go down as one of the best hitting 42/43 year olds in MLB history.
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Post by junior on Apr 10, 2023 8:17:19 GMT -8
The “senior citizen” has contributed pretty well so far! 3 hits in the last 2 games. Leading the team with 9 RBIs. Not bad a for a 42 year old Seems like a solid pick up so far, you agree? So far? Absolutely. If he hits like this for the entire season he'll go down as one of the best hitting 42/43 year olds in MLB history. 6 RBI and a 108MPH Cruz Missile last night tends to support your conjecture … when all you have to do is hit the ball and run the bases - and you’ve done that at an outstanding level for your whole career …
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Post by docmm on May 17, 2023 16:46:31 GMT -8
I can't remember anyone looking so helpless against curveballs. It's insane to throw him anything but those. And the word is obviously out on him. Over the last 30 days, he's hitting .224, over the last 15 days, he's hitting .136. He's got 30 Ks in 94 plate appearances.
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