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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 14:24:36 GMT -8
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Post by azson on Sept 9, 2022 14:40:39 GMT -8
Not me - Tony up and learn how to f'n hit oppo. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 9, 2022 18:22:58 GMT -8
I think this hurts us - Manny is incredibly good defensively in shallow right field.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 9, 2022 19:45:07 GMT -8
I think this hurts us - Manny is incredibly good defensively in shallow right field. Or just about anywhere in RF. |
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Post by aardvark on Sept 9, 2022 19:45:23 GMT -8
Fire Rob Manfred.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 9, 2022 20:27:50 GMT -8
Hasn't really had any impact in the minors on BABIP. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 12, 2022 22:34:37 GMT -8
Hasn't really had any impact in the minors on BABIP. Yeah but the quality of hitters isn't the same in the minors, nor is the quality of the defenders in the minors, and the lack of stakes for the games might just mean that minor league managers didn't shift as often as they should have. Having a guy like Manny in shallow right field is a weapon because of how strong of an arm he has. If your third basemen doesn't have a strong arm, then you are less likely to get the ground out to first base in time to get the runner. Players in the minors are both weaker defenders (in general), but also the average age of a minor league player is lower then that of the majors (meaning that players in the minors are generally fast runners from home plate to first base). Conversely, in the majors you have older power hitters who will lumber over to first base, leaving time to make the play in shallow right to first. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 12, 2022 22:37:20 GMT -8
Any chance that teams consider doing an alternative shift, putting the right fielder in shallow right near the infield, with the other two outfielders in right center and left center?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 12, 2022 22:46:53 GMT -8
Hasn't really had any impact in the minors on BABIP. Yeah but the quality of hitters isn't the same in the minors, nor is the quality of the defenders in the minors, and the lack of stakes for the games might just mean that minor league managers didn't shift as often as they should have. Having a guy like Manny in shallow right field is a weapon because of how strong of an arm he has. If your third basemen doesn't have a strong arm, then you are less likely to get the ground out to first base in time to get the runner. Players in the minors are both weaker defenders (in general), but also the average age of a minor league player is lower then that of the majors (meaning that players in the minors are generally fast runners from home plate to first base). Conversely, in the majors you have older power hitters who will lumber over to first base, leaving time to make the play in shallow right to first. Manny hasn't played the rover role at all this season, for what it's worth. It's been Cronenworth for the most part. In regards to the rest of your theory, I definitely don't agree with the principle of nothing to play for or faster runners....two seasons worth of data show that the impact is minimal. www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseballamerica.com/stories/what-the-minor-league-data-says-about-new-mlb-rules-changes/%3famphtml |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 13, 2022 0:38:06 GMT -8
Yeah but the quality of hitters isn't the same in the minors, nor is the quality of the defenders in the minors, and the lack of stakes for the games might just mean that minor league managers didn't shift as often as they should have. Having a guy like Manny in shallow right field is a weapon because of how strong of an arm he has. If your third basemen doesn't have a strong arm, then you are less likely to get the ground out to first base in time to get the runner. Players in the minors are both weaker defenders (in general), but also the average age of a minor league player is lower then that of the majors (meaning that players in the minors are generally fast runners from home plate to first base). Conversely, in the majors you have older power hitters who will lumber over to first base, leaving time to make the play in shallow right to first. Manny hasn't played the rover role at all this season, for what it's worth. It's been Cronenworth for the most part. In regards to the rest of your theory, I definitely don't agree with the principle of nothing to play for or faster runners....two seasons worth of data show that the impact is minimal. www.google.com/amp/s/www.baseballamerica.com/stories/what-the-minor-league-data-says-about-new-mlb-rules-changes/%3famphtmlSo you think the effect is minimal on a macro level but still important for certain batters? |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 13, 2022 7:31:04 GMT -8
Getting rid of the shift would be like outlawing the 3-3-5 defense in football. Don't you dare be creative and different and think outside the box!
Like most things MLB, they blew it. Limiting the pickoff moves to two per plate appearance is silly. Just let the guy walk to second base, then. I mean, what's next, outlawing the attempt by the catcher to throw the runner out at second on a steal attempt?
Lame.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 13, 2022 8:02:33 GMT -8
So you think the effect is minimal on a macro level but still important for certain batters? Inconclusive. |
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 14, 2022 1:09:12 GMT -8
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