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Post by aztecryan on Apr 11, 2022 19:05:12 GMT -8
Brandon Belt helping the cause with the stretch away from the throw.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 11, 2022 19:15:36 GMT -8
Healthy Austin Nola could be a top 10 catcher.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 11, 2022 20:28:33 GMT -8
Hosmer continuing his hot streak. 2-3 tonight with a double, single and a walk, so far. Good to see.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 11, 2022 20:52:51 GMT -8
Profar with the catch of the year to save the game.
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Post by survalli on Apr 11, 2022 21:57:06 GMT -8
really impressed with Profar this season, Hosmer too.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 11, 2022 22:03:16 GMT -8
really impressed with Profar this season, Hosmer too. They're both off to very good starts. Hopefully, they can maintain some consistency throughout the season. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 12, 2022 23:38:49 GMT -8
13-2?
13-2???
Wow. That's ugly. It will be interesting to see how they continue to play against good teams.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 12, 2022 23:43:47 GMT -8
And can we cut Grisham? He was on deck for my $#!+ list on day one when he had an at bat where he struck out without swinging at a single pitch. He just looked at all of them (6 pitches in total), and was struck out looking. Since then, he's done nothing to lead me to believe that he's a legit major leaguer.
Granted, I'm not real familiar with his history, but his start to the season has been brutal, offensively.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 8:00:13 GMT -8
And can we cut Grisham? He was on deck for my $#!+ list on day one when he had an at bat where he struck out without swinging at a single pitch. He just looked at all of them (6 pitches in total), and was struck out looking. Since then, he's done nothing to lead me to believe that he's a legit major leaguer. Granted, I'm not real familiar with his history, but his start to the season has been brutal, offensively. Yes, cutting your 25 year old center fielder who won a Gold Glove is totally the right call after six games. You could have stopped with "I'm not real familiar".... |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 13, 2022 10:17:48 GMT -8
And can we cut Grisham? He was on deck for my $#!+ list on day one when he had an at bat where he struck out without swinging at a single pitch. He just looked at all of them (6 pitches in total), and was struck out looking. Since then, he's done nothing to lead me to believe that he's a legit major leaguer. Granted, I'm not real familiar with his history, but his start to the season has been brutal, offensively. Yes, cutting your 25 year old center fielder who won a Gold Glove is totally the right call after six games. You could have stopped with "I'm not real familiar".... A Gold Glove is nice, but an outfielder hitting .242? (Last year.) Not good. Not even mediocre. And this year he's hitting .160 so far. And I'm sorry, but anyone who has at bats where they don't swing at all? Not good. Not good. He's not a good offensive player. Never has been. The problem with this team is offense. But if you think an outfielder with a career .240 batting average is OK, that's not an opinion I share. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 11:16:47 GMT -8
Yes, cutting your 25 year old center fielder who won a Gold Glove is totally the right call after six games. You could have stopped with "I'm not real familiar".... A Gold Glove is nice, but an outfielder hitting .242? (Last year.) Not good. Not even mediocre. And this year he's hitting .160 so far. And I'm sorry, but anyone who has at bats where they don't swing at all? Not good. Not good. He's not a good offensive player. Never has been. The problem with this team is offense. But if you think an outfielder with a career .240 batting average is OK, that's not an opinion I share. I don't care about batting average and neither should you. He's posted a 106 wRC+ since 2020, putting him 6% above league average offensively with the best defensive metrics of any qualified center fielder. He's also again 25 years old. If he posts a .350+ OBP, I could care less if he hits .240. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 13, 2022 11:24:16 GMT -8
A Gold Glove is nice, but an outfielder hitting .242? (Last year.) Not good. Not even mediocre. And this year he's hitting .160 so far. And I'm sorry, but anyone who has at bats where they don't swing at all? Not good. Not good. He's not a good offensive player. Never has been. The problem with this team is offense. But if you think an outfielder with a career .240 batting average is OK, that's not an opinion I share. I don't care about batting average and neither should you. He's posted a 106 wRC+ since 2020, putting him 6% above league average offensively with the best defensive metrics of any qualified center fielder. He's also again 25 years old. If he posts a .350+ OBP, I could care less if he hits .240. You can overanalyze the analytics and come up with all the numbers you want, but if he isn't getting hits I don't want him on the team. I want hits and run production from my outfielders. If he were a Gold Glove infielder then the numbers you provided would be fine. But not for an outfielder. You're supposed to get serious run production from your outfielders, and he doesn't provide that. I really hate modern analytics. It takes common sense and the human element (ie: instinct and gut feeling) out of the game. Grisham scored only 61 runs last year and only had 62 RBI. That's not good. Not for an outfielder. You can crunch all the advanced analytics numbers you want, but he's not producing offensively the way an outfielder should produce. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 12:41:53 GMT -8
I don't care about batting average and neither should you. He's posted a 106 wRC+ since 2020, putting him 6% above league average offensively with the best defensive metrics of any qualified center fielder. He's also again 25 years old. If he posts a .350+ OBP, I could care less if he hits .240. You can overanalyze the analytics and come up with all the numbers you want, but if he isn't getting hits I don't want him on the team. I want hits and run production from my outfielders. If he were a Gold Glove infielder then the numbers you provided would be fine. But not for an outfielder. You're supposed to get serious run production from your outfielders, and he doesn't provide that. I really hate modern analytics. It takes common sense and the human element (ie: instinct and gut feeling) out of the game. Grisham scored only 61 runs last year and only had 62 RBI. That's not good. Not for an outfielder. You can crunch all the advanced analytics numbers you want, but he's not producing offensively the way an outfielder should produce. Literally none of this is true, which is why I posted the league context. Center field is largely a defensive first position that prioritizes that side of the ball. There are less than 5 truly *great* offensive center fielders (Reynolds, Buxton....?) Just tell me you don't get it and it's fine - It's pretty clear without that determination anyway. Instinct is still a part of the game, that's why scouting and development departments still exist. Your perspective isn't reflective of today's game. The "I hate analytics" crowd is just code for "I don't understand advanced data so I dislike it." Analytics and data science help you differentiate between anomalous events and actual skill. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 12:43:38 GMT -8
Aaaannnnd.........baseball sabermetric and analytic crowds everywhere just gasped at Erik's post, LOL.
Come on, bud.....are we living and dying with batting average? You're f****** with me, right?
I will agree last year he underperformed. He also wasn't completely healthy. The shortened year prior, his .358 OBP and .802 OPS were above average and he's a STELLAR outfielder. Yes, saving runs does matter.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 13, 2022 13:31:27 GMT -8
Aaaannnnd.........baseball sabermetric and analytic crowds everywhere just gasped at Erik's post, LOL. Come on, bud.....are we living and dying with batting average? You're f****** with me, right? I will agree last year he underperformed. He also wasn't completely healthy. The shortened year prior, his .358 OBP and .802 OPS were above average and he's a STELLAR outfielder. Yes, saving runs does matter. Saving runs DOES matter. Scoring (or driving in) runs matters more. Especially from outfielders. So far this year he's utterly incompetent at the plate. 8 games, and he's responsible for ONE run. Outfielders have to be far more productive than one run scored or driven in every 8 games. And last year he wasn't all that productive, either. He wasn't completely healthy? Well, he's never had what you could call a good year, offensively. Decent? Maybe, but not good. We'll see how this goes, but the Padres need offensive help a lot more than they need defensive help right now. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 13, 2022 13:39:50 GMT -8
I asked the question on a neutral/national website whether or not I was being harsh and unfair to Grisham, and this was the first response I got...
How much rope do you give the guy this year. Last year was bad. This year is starting off like he's a college freshman thrown in the majors. The trend isn't good. Maybe his one decent year was an anomaly, not the norm.
How long do you let this guy stay in the lineup when he's hitting as badly as pitchers used to? Worse than some.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 14:06:48 GMT -8
I asked the question on a neutral/national website whether or not I was being harsh and unfair to Grisham, and this was the first response I got... How much rope do you give the guy this year. Last year was bad. This year is starting off like he's a college freshman thrown in the majors. The trend isn't good. Maybe his one decent year was an anomaly, not the norm. How long do you let this guy stay in the lineup when he's hitting as badly as pitchers used to? Worse than some. Whoever responded to you is as silly as the "I hate analytics" crowd and they are wrong. It's been 7 games, not 8, firstly. Secondly, the entire offense is really scuffling (albeit in this series against very good pitching)....and it's again been 7 games. Nobody is going to press the panic button after two series. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 14:07:45 GMT -8
Aaaannnnd.........baseball sabermetric and analytic crowds everywhere just gasped at Erik's post, LOL. Come on, bud.....are we living and dying with batting average? You're f****** with me, right? I will agree last year he underperformed. He also wasn't completely healthy. The shortened year prior, his .358 OBP and .802 OPS were above average and he's a STELLAR outfielder. Yes, saving runs does matter. Saving runs DOES matter. Scoring (or driving in) runs matters more. Especially from outfielders. So far this year he's utterly incompetent at the plate. 8 games, and he's responsible for ONE run. Outfielders have to be far more productive than one run scored or driven in every 8 games. And last year he wasn't all that productive, either. He wasn't completely healthy? Well, he's never had what you could call a good year, offensively. Decent? Maybe, but not good. We'll see how this goes, but the Padres need offensive help a lot more than they need defensive help right now. Which extends far beyond Trent Grisham. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 13, 2022 15:23:28 GMT -8
Saving runs DOES matter. Scoring (or driving in) runs matters more. Especially from outfielders. So far this year he's utterly incompetent at the plate. 8 games, and he's responsible for ONE run. Outfielders have to be far more productive than one run scored or driven in every 8 games. And last year he wasn't all that productive, either. He wasn't completely healthy? Well, he's never had what you could call a good year, offensively. Decent? Maybe, but not good. We'll see how this goes, but the Padres need offensive help a lot more than they need defensive help right now. Which extends far beyond Trent Grisham. But so far this season he's a huge part of that problem. More than any one player should be. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 16:01:29 GMT -8
Which extends far beyond Trent Grisham. But so far this season he's a huge part of that problem. More than any one player should be. You could say the same thing for multiple other players, so, no. |
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