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Post by johneaztec on Mar 15, 2022 22:02:52 GMT -8
Lol. You're all in on the algorithm prognostication. Help the children. You go Ryan. I may be wacko, but I'm choosing to wait for REAL TIME results. Go figure. Oh yeah, you're not bent because you asked a question, it's obvious you're bent because I choose to word my posts a certain way. Wow.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 15, 2022 22:06:05 GMT -8
Uh huh. You must care, since you're all bent about about it. I know this is hitting a nerve with you, especially when you're actually going to go with "algorithm's" as your evidence, and people are saying algorithm's don't play on the field. So, just chill out, and we'll all hope they perform well without Tatis. All bent about it because I asked a question? Lol. Okay. Citing "algorithms" as my evidence...because algorithms are plugged into projection models. That's literally how projections are derived. Do you think people just guess and throw out random numbers or what? I appreciate that people want to play games on the field, but that process hasn't started yet. Oy vey. I responded to you in a post, but forgot to hit quote.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 15, 2022 23:17:47 GMT -8
Lol. You're all in on the algorithm prognostication. Help the children. You go Ryan. I may be wacko, but I'm choosing to wait for REAL TIME results. Go figure. Oh yeah, you're not bent because you asked a question, it's obvious you're bent because I choose to word my posts a certain way. Wow. This makes zero sense. "All in"? There's nothing happening right now BUT preseason projections. The entire point of this was to illustrate that losing Tatis isn't a death sentence in the eyes of the projection models....which are all we have to go off of right now if you want to discard last season's results without him in the lineup. It's okay to get out of the box once in a while.
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 16, 2022 0:01:01 GMT -8
Lol. You're all in on the algorithm prognostication. Help the children. You go Ryan. I may be wacko, but I'm choosing to wait for REAL TIME results. Go figure. Oh yeah, you're not bent because you asked a question, it's obvious you're bent because I choose to word my posts a certain way. Wow. This makes zero sense. "All in"? There's nothing happening right now BUT preseason projections. The entire point of this was to illustrate that losing Tatis isn't a death sentence in the eyes of the projection models....which are all we have to go off of right now if you want to discard last season's results without him in the lineup. It's okay to get out of the box once in a while. Kim's defensive WAR makes the loss not as bad as it would be otherwise. All in all... Tatis's injury probably costs us what... 2 wins?
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 16, 2022 6:37:37 GMT -8
This makes zero sense. "All in"? There's nothing happening right now BUT preseason projections. The entire point of this was to illustrate that losing Tatis isn't a death sentence in the eyes of the projection models....which are all we have to go off of right now if you want to discard last season's results without him in the lineup. It's okay to get out of the box once in a while. Kim's defensive WAR makes the loss not as bad as it would be otherwise. All in all... Tatis's injury probably costs us what... 2 wins? Thats essentially what the projections say on the dot. 1.9-2.2. In that neighborhood. The lack of payroll flexibility right now though is damning.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 16, 2022 7:05:46 GMT -8
This makes zero sense. "All in"? There's nothing happening right now BUT preseason projections. The entire point of this was to illustrate that losing Tatis isn't a death sentence in the eyes of the projection models....which are all we have to go off of right now if you want to discard last season's results without him in the lineup. It's okay to get out of the box once in a while. Kim's defensive WAR makes the loss not as bad as it would be otherwise. All in all... Tatis's injury probably costs us what... 2 wins? Wow. I hope you're right
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 16, 2022 7:15:11 GMT -8
Kim's defensive WAR makes the loss not as bad as it would be otherwise. All in all... Tatis's injury probably costs us what... 2 wins? Wow. I hope you're right He's right. Kim's the far better defender, and even the most bullish of outlooks on Fernando, if you want to call him an 8 win player, is roughly a 2 win net loss. That's assuming nothing else changes roster-wise and the team today is the team that starts April 7.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 16, 2022 7:17:10 GMT -8
Yep, you're all in with the algorithm's.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 16, 2022 7:18:14 GMT -8
Yep, you're all in with the algorithmm's. Sorry you don't understand how projections work. I tried to explain it with an edit up there to make it make sense.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 16, 2022 8:24:18 GMT -8
Tatis had surgery this morning. Hopefully it's a speedy recovery.
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Post by azteca on Mar 16, 2022 8:26:14 GMT -8
Projections mean little as has been shown in the past This is always amusing to me. Glad I could add a little humor to your day
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 16, 2022 8:30:57 GMT -8
This is always amusing to me. Glad I could add a little humor to your day We all could use it with the way that spring has started. Life of a Padres fan though....perpetual pain.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 16, 2022 14:06:37 GMT -8
He does "claim" quite a bit. Occasionally, one of his "claims" are correct. Too bad there was a lockout going on during this time, as maybe the team could have had more influence on what should, or could, have been done to limit the time away from the field for Tatis. Suzuki now is off the board. 5 years/$85 million deal with the Cubs.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 16, 2022 17:05:10 GMT -8
So, the Padres can't keep up in the free agent market. We lose Tatis for 1/3 of the season. More of the same from the last 20+ years?
Sure looks that way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 10:39:41 GMT -8
Kim's defensive WAR makes the loss not as bad as it would be otherwise. All in all... Tatis's injury probably costs us what... 2 wins? Thats essentially what the projections say on the dot. 1.9-2.2. In that neighborhood. The lack of payroll flexibility right now though is damning. Payroll flexibility. Weren't you on record as saying the owner wouldn't hesitate to go into the tax threshold? Hmm.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 17, 2022 10:45:05 GMT -8
Thats essentially what the projections say on the dot. 1.9-2.2. In that neighborhood. The lack of payroll flexibility right now though is damning. Payroll flexibility. Weren't you on record as saying the owner wouldn't hesitate to go into the tax threshold? Hmm. Seidler would. Unfortunately, he doesn't own the team outright.
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 17, 2022 11:57:25 GMT -8
So, the Padres can't keep up in the free agent market. We lose Tatis for 1/3 of the season. More of the same from the last 20+ years? Sure looks that way. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in baseball.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Mar 17, 2022 19:42:05 GMT -8
So, the Padres can't keep up in the free agent market. We lose Tatis for 1/3 of the season. More of the same from the last 20+ years? Sure looks that way. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. And yet our payroll is dwarfed by the Dodgers.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 17, 2022 21:25:26 GMT -8
I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in baseball. And yet our payroll is dwarfed by the Dodgers. So is literally every other team in baseball, save for the Mets.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 17, 2022 21:38:42 GMT -8
And yet our payroll is dwarfed by the Dodgers. So is literally every other team in baseball, save for the Mets. And, they're literally in contention just about every year, and recently have been to the WS in 2017, 2018, 2020. Wouldn't that be nice.
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