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Post by aztecryan on Feb 10, 2022 9:54:03 GMT -8
And my personal favorite...
(Not even remotely true in any sense)
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Post by aardvark on Feb 10, 2022 10:47:28 GMT -8
And my personal favorite... (Not even remotely true in any sense) Fire Rob Manfred.
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Post by azson on Feb 10, 2022 14:13:17 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 10, 2022 14:28:10 GMT -8
The guy must think all fans are dumb. Sheesh.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 10, 2022 15:09:27 GMT -8
As much as I hate the DH, it just makes sense at this point to have the NL adopt it. It probably should have been adopted sooner.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 10, 2022 15:51:58 GMT -8
As much as I hate the DH, it just makes sense at this point to have the NL adopt it. It probably should have been adopted sooner. Both sides wanted it so there was no real mystery. The owners were trying to use it as a bargaining chip regardless, but there's a significant chunk of people who think it's "millionaires versus billionaires" and that's the total wrong narrative. Saturday's session is basically strategically planned to blame the MLBPA if there isn't progress made.
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Post by junior on Feb 26, 2022 11:58:10 GMT -8
Have to agree that the Millionaire vs Billionaire narrative is BS … DH bargaining chip makes sense for the likely to be newly minted DHers in the NL - and those to follow in the future. They stand to gain a few more employable years, so that seems like a win for some players who were already doing well financially. The nitty gritty has gotta be more about those at the very bottom of the pile - those who get yanked back and forth from the minors, who may never actually catch on with a team long enough to cash out when they retire.
Seems like any player who survives low minors long enough to get a call to the bigs should get something - and they do. But what about the bulk of the minor leaguers? Those who don't have 5 tools and never make a big splash? Someone's making money off of their talent, too. I'm usually in awe of their talent - even when it pales next to the true superstars in the game. Seems only fair to share some of the profits with them, too. But in reality, the owners can't have that on the horizon of hopefulness for that group - ever.
Owners are all about keeping more of their "hard(ly) earned" cash. It's more like the Ramen Eaters vs the Cash Cows in this negotiation - even though the Ramen Eaters are not even at the table (presumably however, they are on the menu).
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 1, 2022 16:55:36 GMT -8
It’s starting to look like at least part of the season will be canceled. Too many ducats to be divided up and too much greed on both sides to make it work. This is the last thing baseball needs. Their viewership and advertising will take a hit if things don’t get resolved soon.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 1, 2022 22:54:21 GMT -8
It’s starting to look like at least part of the season will be canceled. Too many ducats to be divided up and too much greed on both sides to make it work. This is the last thing baseball needs. Their viewership and advertising will take a hit if things don’t get resolved soon. One side operated in good faith, the other did not.
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 2, 2022 14:07:19 GMT -8
It’s starting to look like at least part of the season will be canceled. Too many ducats to be divided up and too much greed on both sides to make it work. This is the last thing baseball needs. Their viewership and advertising will take a hit if things don’t get resolved soon. One side operated in good faith, the other did not. There are too many negotiators involved who want to make a name for themselves and aren’t working for the greater good of the game. A shame really, baseball is positioned to recapture lost viewership from the over politicized NBA and NFL….they are blowing it. I would recommend 3rd party binding arbitration.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 2, 2022 14:37:05 GMT -8
One side operated in good faith, the other did not. There are too many negotiators involved who want to make a name for themselves and aren’t working for the greater good of the game. A shame really, baseball is positioned to recapture lost viewership from the over politicized NBA and NFL….they are blowing it. I would recommend 3rd party binding arbitration. Literally all they needed was for MLB to put forth an offer that was aligned in some capacity with the trajectory of baseball's explosive revenue growth and a deal could have been reached. Instead, you get Manfred telling the media about how "difficult the climate has been" the last five years for revenue. MLB has garnered 43 billion dollars in revenue the last five seasons. 43 billion.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 2, 2022 15:46:01 GMT -8
There are too many negotiators involved who want to make a name for themselves and aren’t working for the greater good of the game. A shame really, baseball is positioned to recapture lost viewership from the over politicized NBA and NFL….they are blowing it. I would recommend 3rd party binding arbitration. Literally all they needed was for MLB to put forth an offer that was aligned in some capacity with the trajectory of baseball's explosive revenue growth and a deal could have been reached. Instead, you get Manfred telling the media about how "difficult the climate has been" the last five years for revenue. MLB has garnered 43 billion dollars in revenue the last five seasons. 43 billion. There is another 43 that is important in all of this BS--43 is the number of days after the lockout began that it took for the owners to make their first proposal for a new CBA to the MLBPA. And yet NOW they are concerned about deadlines and canceling regular season games.
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