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Post by Den60 on Jan 5, 2022 11:28:54 GMT -8
You correctly stated the rules either Vaccination card with the Booster OR Instant test same that was available at the last game - saw the TV interview at the last home game and people seemed very satisfied that the tests were available Saturday's game will also be nationally televised There is also the ticket exchange on this website The Aztecs and the CSU system are trying to do everything possible to prevent the players from getting COVID -so they can play the games and not have to have to forfeit the game . Safety for the players , coaches , fans , ............ The problem is that the "vaccines do not prevent the spread of COIVD." They may have some therapeutic benefit though those with serious comorbidities are still dying despite their "vax" status. |
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Post by chris92065 on Jan 5, 2022 11:35:46 GMT -8
Shutting down schools will have long terms effects on students development that will create a generation of children far behind in so many ways. There is no reason for any school to shutdown because of Covid. Last year about half of california kids failed their classes and suspect if they shut down schools again it will be the same. Its the dumbest decision ever made. LOL OK. Half of California kids?  That's a few million students. Didn't happen. Don't make stuff up. While there's no question that closing schools two years ago and going to 'virtual learning' led to negative effects for all involved, had policy makers simply shifted the in person time to later in the year and resumed in person classes then, things could've been different. We're still not learning from mistakes. And who says kids need a whole summer off in the first place? Farmers? Push the school year back. Get everyone past the bump. Teachers have families too. California used to pay schools extra to go on a 'year-round' schedule. Once that incentive was gone, we went right back to the olden days. Only 51% of kids met or exceeded which means half failed. This was 2019. Trust me 2020/2021 was much worse. California department of education refuses to release current data. Why is that? |
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Post by Den60 on Jan 5, 2022 11:42:48 GMT -8
i draw the line at the booster. I am vaccinated. I support the vaccine, but I am not going down the rabbit whole of getting a booster every 6 months without the certainty that its effective against variations of what is turning into something akin to the Flu. im sorry, this may sound callus, but a whole lot more people need to die before i help support Big Pharma with another poke. The first one had me in bed for 3 days. not going to get sick so some dude can make billions. Technically, now it is every 5 months. |
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Post by aztecnails on Jan 5, 2022 11:44:46 GMT -8
Pandemic of the unjabbed is a lie.
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Post by survalli on Jan 5, 2022 12:02:33 GMT -8
i draw the line at the booster. I am vaccinated. I support the vaccine, but I am not going down the rabbit whole of getting a booster every 6 months without the certainty that its effective against variations of what is turning into something akin to the Flu. im sorry, this may sound callus, but a whole lot more people need to die before i help support Big Pharma with another poke. The first one had me in bed for 3 days. not going to get sick so some dude can make billions. What are the long term effects of getting Covid? I'd rather not find that out personally. Neither am I, which is why i mask up as approriate. The boosters are not working against the variants. We are chasing something that we will never catch it time. Covid is evolving faster than Big Pharma can develop a vaccine. by the time they hit the market they are worthless. this isnt politics, its science. I'll wait to they find something more permanent, which is unlikely. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jan 5, 2022 12:11:50 GMT -8
i draw the line at the booster. I am vaccinated. I support the vaccine, but I am not going down the rabbit whole of getting a booster every 6 months without the certainty that its effective against variations of what is turning into something akin to the Flu. im sorry, this may sound callus, but a whole lot more people need to die before i help support Big Pharma with another poke. The first one had me in bed for 3 days. not going to get sick so some dude can make billions. What are the long term effects of getting Covid? I'd rather not find that out personally. I think the key word in your statement is the word "personal". Medical decisions are "personal"
I'd like it if our country would go back to keeping medical decisions personal, and made by individuals, not by state mandate. |
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Post by myownwords on Jan 5, 2022 12:12:28 GMT -8
What are the long term effects of getting Covid? I'd rather not find that out personally. Neither am I, which is why i mask up as approriate. The boosters are not working against the variants. We are chasing something that we will never catch it time. Covid is evolving faster than Big Pharma can develop a vaccine. by the time they hit the market they are worthless. this isnt politics, its science. I'll wait to they find something more permanent, which is unlikely. The Army---of all people---is working on a new vaccine that may address your well-stated point, survalli. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jan 5, 2022 12:17:20 GMT -8
Pandemic of the unjabbed is a lie. At some point, people will start to wake up and realize that the COVID-19 pandemic ultimately will just be the COVID-19 reality. The disease will continue to mutate and is not going to be eradicated. Over time, everyone will gain more and more antibodies to it (like the flu) and it will become less and less deadly. Just look at the death rates in children. Incredibly low, comparable to the flu. Adults have a considerable amount of antibodies to the flu today. And yet the flu kills millions of people each year. It's just an unfortunate reality that we will have to live with, likely because of China's Wuhan Virology lab had lax security protocols in place. At what point is more going to be done to find the source of the virus? It's been two years and it still hasn't been pinpointed. |
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Post by aztecking on Jan 5, 2022 12:21:34 GMT -8
LOL OK. Half of California kids? That's a few million students. Didn't happen. Don't make stuff up. While there's no question that closing schools two years ago and going to 'virtual learning' led to negative effects for all involved, had policy makers simply shifted the in person time to later in the year and resumed in person classes then, things could've been different. We're still not learning from mistakes. And who says kids need a whole summer off in the first place? Farmers? Push the school year back. Get everyone past the bump. Teachers have families too. California used to pay schools extra to go on a 'year-round' schedule. Once that incentive was gone, we went right back to the olden days. Only 51% of kids met or exceeded which means half failed. This was 2019. Trust me 2020/2021 was much worse. California department of education refuses to release current data. Why is that? Maybe cause it takes a little while to compile the data and release a report. Everything isn’t a conspiracy. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jan 5, 2022 12:21:42 GMT -8
Look at that... thank you king & junior, my bltching has officially produced useful information for myself and hopefully others. I have heard from people that they tried to get reimbursement through Kaiser but were denied because there was not a doctor rec beforehand, but that was at non-Kaiser locations. I'll have to look into the online scheduling. I’ve never tried to get tested at a non-Kaiser location. But I’ve been to 2 different Kaiser locations (San Marcos and Zion) for testing and both were a breeze. I tried to get tested recently and both locations that I tried were booked out for a solid week. There's a ton of COVID running around right now. That being said, the idea that people should get booster shots every five months is a f****** joke. |
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Post by aztecking on Jan 5, 2022 12:25:15 GMT -8
What are the long term effects of getting Covid? I'd rather not find that out personally. I think the key word in your statement is the word "personal". Medical decisions are "personal"
I'd like it if our country would go back to keeping medical decisions personal, and made by individuals, not by state mandate. Seems like the people most strongly advocating your position are just as strongly advocating against a woman’s right to choose being a “personal” decision and not state mandated. It’s an awfully hypocritical position to hold. |
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Post by aztecking on Jan 5, 2022 12:26:30 GMT -8
I’ve never tried to get tested at a non-Kaiser location. But I’ve been to 2 different Kaiser locations (San Marcos and Zion) for testing and both were a breeze. I tried to get tested recently and both locations that I tried were booked out for a solid week. There's a ton of COVID running around right now. That being said, the idea that people should get booster shots every five months is a f****** joke. That’s just not true. It’s not how Kaiser facilities work. They are drive through (or walk up) and first come first serve. There is no booking of appointments there. If it’s busy you’ll just wait in a longer line. |
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Post by standiego on Jan 5, 2022 12:26:37 GMT -8
I did not set up the Post Topic - As I stated there are CDC , CSU and SD County rules
People follow the guidelines - FREE Boosted Shots OR ready available Tests day of the indoor game or you do not attend Indoor Events -
Appreciate the details - and also that it is the same as the previous Home Game but now it requires the Free Boosted Vaccination
You can choose the right choice for you Or talk with SDSU Administration or San Diego County Medical Board
What is the purpose to come on here to go over your personal decision ?
You feel you were Civil by saying there are 2 divisions in the country if not more and I agree with you .
But then say that only 1 of the "Cults "is wrong and those following what organizations ? CDC , FDA , NIH or whom ?
So your Cult as you label it - listens or believes what medical groups or possibly certain media are correct ? Only you are correct and things should be done your way
Is there a Pandemic ? Should Medical people be providing advise or should we not be aware of what has and is happening ? Believe it was President Trump who got the ball rolling on development of Vaccinations - to that I thank him . Are Vaccinations FREE .
Do you think No Medical information should come out from the NIH, CDC , and FDA ?
Why do you believe those Organizations have made those decisions - are they the Cult Leaders you mention
What do you believe is their objective and are they the Cult Leaders . That people who believe in Vaccinations are members of a CULT .
Could I ask if you get some information from Fox Anchor People - do they in any way get paid by how many viewers they have
I can not speak for any other Country - again a deflection
Do agree that if you do not want to get Boosted or Tested - then take up the money issue with the AD not come here to go over and over opinions that both " Cults " may have as opinions have already been solidified
I do not belong to a Cult .
I do support the Medical Decisions made so as of today Boosted and Tested Fans can attend games . MY brother came down with Colvid so did have to go through a lot . ( Jan 2020 ) There are even lingering after affects for those who do survive . His doctor did recommend all the Vaccinations and Boosters .
In addition I hope Aztec players will be able to play games , Not have to postpone or Forfeit any games , not come down with COVID - especially the severe issues . Plus have fans in the stands .
As the Doctors have continually explained to me and our whole family including children -the Vaccinations are to limit the severe parts of Covid - less likely to go to the Hospitals and less likely to pass away . It reminded all of us about the Vaccinations children had to have to be able to attend school . No Vaccination will completely destroy the disease .
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Post by azteccc on Jan 5, 2022 12:31:26 GMT -8
But then say that only 1 of the "Cults "is wrong and those following what organizations ? CDC , FDA , NIH or whom ? So your Cult as you label it - listens or believes what medical groups or possibly certain media are correct ? Only you are correct and things should be done your way Once again, I’m all out of patience with you making up things you think I wrote and then getting all wound up about those false things. Reading comprehension is vital to being productive in a conversation instead of just inflammatory. |
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Post by myownwords on Jan 5, 2022 12:38:16 GMT -8
I did not set up the Post Topic - As I stated there are CDC , CSU and SD County rules People follow the guidelines - FREE Boosted Shots OR ready available Tests day of the indoor game or you do not attend Indoor Events - Appreciate the details - and also that it is the same as the previous Home Game but now it requires the Free Boosted Vaccination You can choose the right choice for you Or talk with SDSU Administration or San Diego County Medical Board What is the purpose to come on here to go over your personal decision ? You feel you were Civil by saying there are 2 divisions in the country if not more and I agree with you . But then say that only 1 of the "Cults "is wrong and those following what organizations ? CDC , FDA , NIH or whom ? So your Cult as you label it - listens or believes what medical groups or possibly certain media are correct ? Only you are correct and things should be done your way Is there a Pandemic ? Should Medical people be providing advise or should we not be aware of what has and is happening ? Believe it was President Trump who got the ball rolling on development of Vaccinations - to that I thank him . Are Vaccinations FREE . Do you think No Medical information should come out from the NIH, CDC , and FDA ? Why do you believe those Organizations have made those decisions - are they the Cult Leaders you mention What do you believe is their objective and are they the Cult Leaders . That people who believe in Vaccinations are members of a CULT . Could I ask if you get some information from Fox Anchor People - do they in any way get paid by how many viewers they have I can not speak for any other Country - again a deflection Do agree that if you do not want to get Boosted or Tested - then take up the money issue with the AD not come here to go over and over opinions that both " Cults " may have as opinions have already been solidified I do not belong to a Cult . I do support the Medical Decisions made so as of today Boosted and Tested Fans can attend games . MY brother came down with Colvid so did have to go through a lot . ( Jan 2020 ) There are even lingering after affects for those who do survive . His doctor did recommend all the Vaccinations and Boosters . In addition I hope Aztec players will be able to play games , Not have to postpone or Forfeit any games , not come down with COVID - especially the severe issues . Plus have fans in the stands . As the Doctors have continually explained to me and our whole family including children -the Vaccinations are to limit the severe parts of Covid - less likely to go to the Hospitals and less likely to pass away . It reminded all of us about the Vaccinations children had to have to be able to attend school . No Vaccination will completely destroy the disease . Bless your heart Standiego. Do you NOT see that you are committing the very sins, that you tediously attribute to others? |
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Post by Den60 on Jan 5, 2022 12:48:35 GMT -8
I’ve never tried to get tested at a non-Kaiser location. But I’ve been to 2 different Kaiser locations (San Marcos and Zion) for testing and both were a breeze. I tried to get tested recently and both locations that I tried were booked out for a solid week. There's a ton of COVID running around right now. That being said, the idea that people should get booster shots every five months is a f****** joke. I'm thinking they are not done at 5 months. Here is a rather humorous post that shows the evolution of these "vaccines" over the last year as to their "effectivness."  |
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Post by Den60 on Jan 5, 2022 12:51:08 GMT -8
I think the key word in your statement is the word "personal". Medical decisions are "personal"
I'd like it if our country would go back to keeping medical decisions personal, and made by individuals, not by state mandate. Seems like the people most strongly advocating your position are just as strongly advocating against a woman’s right to choose being a “personal” decision and not state mandated. It’s an awfully hypocritical position to hold. Well, if you are going to drag us down that road, the decision to "vaccinate" only involves one individual. |
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Post by aztecking on Jan 5, 2022 13:02:28 GMT -8
Seems like the people most strongly advocating your position are just as strongly advocating against a woman’s right to choose being a “personal” decision and not state mandated. It’s an awfully hypocritical position to hold. Well, if you are going to drag us down that road, the decision to "vaccinate" only involves one individual. If that decision affects 2 individuals then why aren’t those same people advocating just as strongly to make it illegal for pregnant women to smoke or drink? Those are proven to cause life long disabilities or in some cases cause a miscarriage. Should a woman who drinks a lot during her pregnancy and it causes a miscarriage be charged with murder? I never see these pro-life people go down this road. I wonder why… |
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Post by azteccc on Jan 5, 2022 13:10:49 GMT -8
I think the key word in your statement is the word "personal". Medical decisions are "personal"
I'd like it if our country would go back to keeping medical decisions personal, and made by individuals, not by state mandate. Seems like the people most strongly advocating your position are just as strongly advocating against a woman’s right to choose being a “personal” decision and not state mandated. It’s an awfully hypocritical position to hold. You’re absolutely correct and I see it as exactly the same issue. If you are for one and against the other, you are being hypocritical. |
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Post by hoobs on Jan 5, 2022 13:16:28 GMT -8
Seems like the people most strongly advocating your position are just as strongly advocating against a woman’s right to choose being a “personal” decision and not state mandated. It’s an awfully hypocritical position to hold. You’re absolutely correct and I see it as exactly the same issue. If you are for one and against the other, you are being hypocritical. I can respect you for being intellectually consistent about it! And you debate the topic much more reasonably than others as well -- and I say that despite disagreeing with you on the COVID / vaccination / etc. side of that. |
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That's a few million students. Didn't happen. Don't make stuff up. While there's no question that closing schools two years ago and going to 'virtual learning' led to negative effects for all involved, had policy makers simply shifted the in person time to later in the year and resumed in person classes then, things could've been different. We're still not learning from mistakes. 
