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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 1, 2010 13:47:42 GMT -8
Today I heard an AARP spot on radio exhorting the elderly to break out their pitchforks and torches and march on D.C. to demand that the Feds abandon their proposal to cut back on what Medicare pays to doctors to treat geezers. Well!
Isn't this the same AARP that so enthusiastically supported the passing of ObamaCare? And NOW they suddenly figure out what that misbegotten plan is going to do to seniors!
AARP; with friends like these, old folks do not need enemies!
AzWm
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Post by aztecwin on Dec 1, 2010 14:18:27 GMT -8
I think most informed people have known for a number of years that AARP does not work in the best interest of its membership.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Dec 1, 2010 16:08:14 GMT -8
Today I heard an AARP spot on radio exhorting the elderly to break out their pitchforks and torches and march on D.C. to demand that the Feds abandon their proposal to cut back on what Medicare pays to doctors to treat geezers. Well! Isn't this the same AARP that so enthusiastically supported the passing of ObamaCare? And NOW they suddenly figure out what that misbegotten plan is going to do to seniors! AARP; with friends like these, old folks do not need enemies! AzWm The reduction in Medicare reimbursement and Obamacare are NOT connected. Get a grip. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 1, 2010 21:11:56 GMT -8
Today I heard an AARP spot on radio exhorting the elderly to break out their pitchforks and torches and march on D.C. to demand that the Feds abandon their proposal to cut back on what Medicare pays to doctors to treat geezers. Well! Isn't this the same AARP that so enthusiastically supported the passing of ObamaCare? And NOW they suddenly figure out what that misbegotten plan is going to do to seniors! AARP; with friends like these, old folks do not need enemies! AzWm The reduction in Medicare reimbursement and Obamacare are NOT connected. Get a grip. That's like saying that a leak at the other end of the lifeboat in which you are waiting to be rescued has nothing to do with your end. Of course they are linked! AzWm |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Dec 2, 2010 8:19:10 GMT -8
The reduction in Medicare reimbursement and Obamacare are NOT connected. Get a grip. That's like saying that a leak at the other end of the lifeboat in which you are waiting to be rescued has nothing to do with your end. Of course they are linked! AzWm Proof? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 8:40:21 GMT -8
Well I am going on their supplemental works pretty good about 300 bucks a month with meds(I have ten).United can only raise my plan sixty bucks over 10 years and I am not going to make 10 years. Othe than that kind of thing they are worthless.
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 9, 2011 10:19:24 GMT -8
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jan 9, 2011 13:15:37 GMT -8
I'm waiting for those who support ObamaCare to respond to the item linked by Win in this post. Look, we have to face facts. Pro-Democrat talking points about how great it is not to have life-time limits and being able to keep your overgrown adolescents on your insurance until they are pushing 30 do not cancel out the very ominous bad effects of the new law. My guess is that as more and more people run up against these bad effects, ObamaCare and those who backed it are going to become more and more unpopular. We need to understand that ObamaCare is going to make health care worse for most people (not the fat cats; they will be just fine) and yet at the same time cost more and more. I hope those who oppose the law will launch a PR campaign of TV spots featuring people like the one mentioned in the linked article. The public must be made to look at the face of those who will suffer because of the unconscionable self-serving actions of the Democrats. Frankly, those actions were just plain stupid, as well. They could have had a balanced health care reform had they been willing to actually cooperate with the Republicans. Had they done that, any bad outcomes attributable to the law would not have been their responsibility alone. As it stands, the Dems are going to take the fall 100%. This is what happens when arrogance and hubris are one's main motivations. AzWm |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jan 10, 2011 8:17:33 GMT -8
I still have the same retirement health coverage I had last year. I have seen no increase in my premium. I am covered by Pacific Care. Has anybody else seen any kind of change in their coverage?
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Post by aztec70 on Jan 10, 2011 22:01:55 GMT -8
Not having a public option lost me. I favored that.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 11, 2011 16:51:34 GMT -8
I stand by what I said. Medicaid and Medicare are totally different programs. Medicaid, like Medical, are run by the states whereas Medicare is run by the Feds. Gov. Brown has just announced a huge cut in Medical here in Ca. If "ObamaCare" is truly moving 15 million into the state programs then, yes, reimbursement rates need to go up and the Fed must somehow pay for it. All of these 'problems' would go away at once if we instituted a true single payer system. |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 12, 2011 13:49:45 GMT -8
I stand by what I said. Medicaid and Medicare are totally different programs. Medicaid, like Medical, are run by the states whereas Medicare is run by the Feds. Gov. Brown has just announced a huge cut in Medical here in Ca. If "ObamaCare" is truly moving 15 million into the state programs then, yes, reimbursement rates need to go up and the Fed must somehow pay for it. All of these 'problems' would go away at once if we instituted a true single payer system. I see no way that adding 30 million or so to the rolls without them being able to pay is going to be workable no matter how a "single payer" system was installed. Even right now young people are calculating the money they would save by paying the fine rather than the premiums. There are just too many problems. |
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