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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 11:10:55 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Sept 18, 2019 20:04:08 GMT -8
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 19, 2019 0:56:55 GMT -8
The big names include Clint Hurdle, Terry Francona, Bobby Valentine, Joe Girardi, or they could try a less obvious more local choice like Tim Flannery, Carlos Hernandez, Tony Gwynn Jr.
Something tells me Green is going to be retained...he’s a good yes man for Preller.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2019 9:18:58 GMT -8
I think he will be given a shot in 2020, to start the year. I worry that ownership is not going to want a strong, indepedent personality to rock the boat, so to speak. They gave Andy an extension, so I think he gets a little more rope by default. But I don't think he survives 2020 if there isn't subsantial progress towards winning. Too much talent on the roster to be underachieving to the degree they have in the second half of this year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 10:03:22 GMT -8
The big names include Clint Hurdle, Terry Francona, Bobby Valentine, Joe Girardi, or they could try a less obvious more local choice like Tim Flannery, Carlos Hernandez, Tony Gwynn Jr. Something tells me Green is going to be retained...he’s a good yes man for Preller. Bring in Ozzie Guillen. He is not a yes man and isn't afraid to tell his players they suck and are playing like $#!+.👍
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Post by survalli on Sept 19, 2019 11:03:54 GMT -8
i don't want our Spring Training Manager fired until AJ is fired. Both need to be fired together.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 11:32:18 GMT -8
The big names include Clint Hurdle, Terry Francona, Bobby Valentine, Joe Girardi, or they could try a less obvious more local choice like Tim Flannery, Carlos Hernandez, Tony Gwynn Jr. Something tells me Green is going to be retained...he’s a good yes man for Preller. Francona is pretty ingrained in Cleveland, and has a great relationship with the GM there. I dont see that at all being a possibility. Bobby Valentine?
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 19, 2019 12:43:26 GMT -8
The big names include Clint Hurdle, Terry Francona, Bobby Valentine, Joe Girardi, or they could try a less obvious more local choice like Tim Flannery, Carlos Hernandez, Tony Gwynn Jr. Something tells me Green is going to be retained...he’s a good yes man for Preller. Bring in Ozzie Guillen. He is not a yes man and isn't afraid to tell his players they suck and are playing like $#!+.👍 Bring in someone who will light a fire under this team. Someone who can get the most out of young players like Renfroe, Urias, France, Tatis, Naylor. Someone who can turn one or two of these young starters into a legit Cy Young caliber contender. And most importantly someone who is a winner. This team has been perpetually rebuilding and underachieving for 10 years. I don’t want to hear any more talk of rebuilding process. That’s an excuse for mediocrity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 13:15:28 GMT -8
Bring back Bochy! Why would he retire when he can just commute 20 minutes from his place in Poway? By the way, if you're a golfer and you never played Maderas in Poway...DO IT. This year. One of the best public courses I ever played.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 15:50:04 GMT -8
Bring in Ozzie Guillen. He is not a yes man and isn't afraid to tell his players they suck and are playing like $#!+.👍 Bring in someone who will light a fire under this team. Someone who can get the most out of young players like Renfroe, Urias, France, Tatis, Naylor. Someone who can turn one or two of these young starters into a legit Cy Young caliber contender. And most importantly someone who is a winner. This team has been perpetually rebuilding and underachieving for 10 years. I don’t want to hear any more talk of rebuilding process. That’s an excuse for mediocrity. I'm definitely feeling what you are putting out here.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 21, 2019 10:09:38 GMT -8
...has been fired.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 21, 2019 10:56:53 GMT -8
No winning seasons, team played like crapola after the AS Break.
It needed to be done.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 21, 2019 14:49:43 GMT -8
Pray for the right hire.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Sept 21, 2019 17:43:07 GMT -8
At least Barajas gets more than a week audition. Sure more than Dave Roberts got.
Can't blame Andy Green for all of this guys. Tough to manage the Three Stooges, Laurel and Hardy, Abott and Costello, and the Keystone Cops. These Padres are clowns and not even the best of managers would have done well. Don't expect a miraculous turnaround no matter who Prellar hires.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 8:09:01 GMT -8
The post AS break crash must have did him in. I don't think he was a very good manager, but regardless- alot of these guys don't survive the tank jobs. They take the arrows while the team is trying to lose and then when they get to the verge, someone like AJ Hinch comes in less scarred by the years of losing.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 23, 2019 8:33:06 GMT -8
The post AS break crash must have did him in. I don't think he was a very good manager, but regardless- alot of these guys don't survive the tank jobs. They take the arrows while the team is trying to lose and then when they get to the verge, someone like AJ Hinch comes in less scarred by the years of losing. AJ Hinch came out OK. Don't forget, he managed the D-Backs for a year and a half, with an even lower win percentage than Andy Green had with the Padres. Then, he eventually resurfaced with the Astros.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2019 9:06:57 GMT -8
The post AS break crash must have did him in. I don't think he was a very good manager, but regardless- alot of these guys don't survive the tank jobs. They take the arrows while the team is trying to lose and then when they get to the verge, someone like AJ Hinch comes in less scarred by the years of losing. AJ Hinch came out OK. Don't forget, he managed the D-Backs for a year and a half, with an even lower win percentage than Andy Green had with the Padres. Then, he eventually resurfaced with the Astros. Hinch is a really smart guy, but the Astros are so well run that I think a lot of managers could succeed there. Their R&D, analytics departments and now hiring specialized coaches for all of their affiliates...Just so far ahead of the curve.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 9:34:06 GMT -8
The post AS break crash must have did him in. I don't think he was a very good manager, but regardless- alot of these guys don't survive the tank jobs. They take the arrows while the team is trying to lose and then when they get to the verge, someone like AJ Hinch comes in less scarred by the years of losing. AJ Hinch came out OK. Don't forget, he managed the D-Backs for a year and a half, with an even lower win percentage than Andy Green had with the Padres. Then, he eventually resurfaced with the Astros. You may have misunderstood me. I wasn't implying that Hinch did not turn out fine, of course he did. One of the best managers in the game. My point was, Hinch was brought in once most of the tanking was done in Houston, and wasn't as scarred mentally as someone who had just taking a beating for 3-4 years. I am sure you would agree 1 1/2 seasons isnt the same as the four Green had here? Hinch is also the superior manager. Hinch came in after Mills, Porter, and Coop had absorbed the tanking years. Now SD turns to a new manager, as the team is (hopefully) on the verge of contending. Difference between the rebuilds may likely be SD doesnt have the offensive pieces that HOU was developing, but SD has superior SP pieces. The bats HOU drafted and developed were just insane.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 9:36:54 GMT -8
AJ Hinch came out OK. Don't forget, he managed the D-Backs for a year and a half, with an even lower win percentage than Andy Green had with the Padres. Then, he eventually resurfaced with the Astros. Hinch is a really smart guy, but the Astros are so well run that I think a lot of managers could succeed there. Their R&D, analytics departments and now hiring specialized coaches for all of their affiliates...Just so far ahead of the curve. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 9:39:00 GMT -8
And of course, hiring a new guy after the previous manager absorbed the tanking years happens in the other major sports too. Which is why I respected the 76ers sticking with Brett Brown, who is still there. Although Hinkie the GM got his ass blown out.
It's a tough job, coming into your first management job knowing the team is not even trying to contend.
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