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Post by aztecfred on Feb 15, 2019 10:03:33 GMT -8
I have always liked it Boyd stadium other than being in middle of nowhere. Not so much now that urban sprawl has finally surrounded it. It's not fancy but more than functional just bad location. It's seating is close to sidelines, with back rest for most and big concession area.Been in more than a few worse Nev, SJSU, Mich, the Coliseum and the Rose Bowl to name a few. Some r just metal framed and seating, some r just old and some r just huge, old and some just suck built for other functions. As much as I like soccer and having another tenant I am worried a little about size of soccer field effecting sideline and endzone seating?
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Post by swollcracker on Feb 15, 2019 11:08:09 GMT -8
Thanks for linking my blog. I had a great time talking with mostly your CFO at the game It look a tremendous leader sticking his neck out to get the CSU Stadium up and running. I hope you all will get behind your President who is embarking on a similar journey. I sensed that they are very aware of the challenges ahead and are 100% invested in making it happen. I told your CFO that I'm looking forward to attending the SDSU-CSU game in your new stadium in 2024.
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Post by Spud on Feb 15, 2019 11:59:06 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Feb 15, 2019 13:17:25 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. No tailgating if you mean that literally but I've attended several Pac12 games where you couldn't park your car just outside the stadium yet you make do by bringing a picnic basket, spreading out on grass and then returning the stuff to your car before kickoff. If you aren't up for that, you simply purchase food and drinks from vendors outside the stadium. I will grant you that situation might not allow as many choices but it certainly won't be a reason to dissuade me from attending SDSU games in the future.
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Post by AzTex on Feb 15, 2019 13:28:20 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. Here's a partial comparison of our current ticket prices to most of the Mountain West. These prices are for mid-field seats, as close to our club level seats as possible including required donation.
SDSU $311-$511
BSU $865 CSU $550-$750 WYO $735 UNR $675 FSU $526-$1276 UNM $450 SJSU $295-$775 UNLV $230-305
This should give us an idea of where our ticket prices are going to be in the new stadium. We'll no longer be near the bottom in ticket prices.
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Post by AzTex on Feb 15, 2019 13:32:26 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. No tailgating if you mean that literally but I've attended several Pac12 games where you couldn't park your car just outside the stadium yet you make do by bringing a picnic basket, spreading out on grass and then returning the stuff to your car before kickoff. If you aren't up for that, you simply purchase food and drinks from vendors outside the stadium. I will grant you that situation might not allow as many choices but it certainly won't be a reason to dissuade me from attending SDSU games in the future. All the preliminary designs I've seen show plenty of green space that would be fine for the tailgating you describe. Personally I go for the game, not for inconvenient barbecuing in the parking lot.
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Post by aztech on Feb 15, 2019 13:43:03 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. It's a given that when attending football games you will pay a much higher price for seating, food and drinks than you would when going to a sports bar or supermarket. However, there is a tipping point where fans will refrain from paying excessive prices. The city owns the stadium and they have never discriminated with who's playing there. Therein lied the problem. As for concessions Charger fans were used to paying higher prices, not college fans. I'm willing to bet that if Aztec Shops runs the concessions in the new stadium, it'll be cheaper to get sloshed and on a full stomach. BTW, I've never attended a MBB game in Viejas. How are the prices there?
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Post by azson on Feb 15, 2019 17:12:25 GMT -8
You probably not to far off. Figure there are 15K season ticket holders, and the average ticket price is about $200 for the season. If you raise that to $300. That will be $1.5M in ticket revenue jut from the season ticket holders. Figure they sell on average another 10K tickets a game at $17 on average, that will be going to $25 per ticket. That will raise another $500K. In essence every 1% increase is $40K 300M Bond at 6% for 30 years is a per annum payment of $21.8M 200M Bond at 6% for 30 years is a per annum payment of $14.5M 150M Bond at 6% for 30 years is a per annum payment of $11.0M To cover that solely with ticket pricing, prices would need to be as follows: 300M - 545% Increase in pricing 200M - 363% Increase in pricing 150M - 275% Increase in pricing Going to need a hell of a lot of donations/naming rights to keep the pricing from skyrocketing. As a Aztecs Football season ticket holder since 1992 and Chargers season ticket holder with family since 1967 I've never had a problem with SD Stadium, Jack Murphy, the Q or SDCCU as currently called and constructed. However, I won't be paying inflated prices for the privilege of sitting in shiny new seats. I've never understood how the experience would be so enhanced by the seating and other amenities. To me it's always been about the Wins/Losses.I feel the same. I have a couple of 9er buddies who fell for the prospect of the shiny new stadium in Santa Clara and ponied up for the asininely expensive new season tix, which had me baffled. Needless to say they soured quickly and gave up those tix toot sweet. I felt like the friend at the end of Get Out, "...I did tell you..."
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Feb 15, 2019 17:37:04 GMT -8
As a Aztecs Football season ticket holder since 1992 and Chargers season ticket holder with family since 1967 I've never had a problem with SD Stadium, Jack Murphy, the Q or SDCCU as currently called and constructed. However, I won't be paying inflated prices for the privilege of sitting in shiny new seats. I've never understood how the experience would be so enhanced by the seating and other amenities. To me it's always been about the Wins/Losses. Have you ever been to an intimate college football stadium? This is a bad example apparently, since everyone on here bashes it... but UNLV's Sam Boyd stadium was awesome to go watch the Vegas bowl when we were in it against Houston a few years ago. It's remarkable how much closer you are to the field in a stadium like that
SDCCU stadium is fine with me because I actually love how there are way too many seats so you can just decide to go last minute with a big group of friends and be fine as far as ticket availability, but we're so far away from the action since it's a multi sport facility.. that's really my only issue with it (plus the jumbo tron and sound system, but I don't really care about those things). Plus from what I've read it's too expensive for SDSU to stay in that stadium long term without the Chargers
I've been to Sam Boyd many times and to both Aztec Bowl games there. Maybe you are a little closer but really low. In my opinion the best seats in an intimate stadium rise up to loge level like at the Q. Sitting at the 50 you can see everything and really have the depth to see pass paterns, runners cut, etc. Down low you can't really see anything but a bunch of bodies running around down low like at Sam Boyd. Not bad either way but not worth $100 per game which is my fear for the new stadium. Keep in mind that I paid $140 a game X 10 games X 3 seats for over 20 years myself for the Chargers. However, a pro product requires pro pricing. I wouldn't want to pay that for college football.
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Post by Spud on Feb 15, 2019 21:53:07 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. It's a given that when attending football games you will pay a much higher price for seating, food and drinks than you would when going to a sports bar or supermarket. However, there is a tipping point where fans will refrain from paying excessive prices. The city owns the stadium and they have never discriminated with who's playing there. Therein lied the problem. As for concessions Charger fans were used to paying higher prices, not college fans. I'm willing to bet that if Aztec Shops runs the concessions in the new stadium, it'll be cheaper to get sloshed and on a full stomach. BTW, I've never attended a MBB game in Viejas. How are the prices there? $10 for a 8 oz beer...Aztec Shops ain't cheap.
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Post by aztech on Feb 16, 2019 0:10:38 GMT -8
It's a given that when attending football games you will pay a much higher price for seating, food and drinks than you would when going to a sports bar or supermarket. However, there is a tipping point where fans will refrain from paying excessive prices. The city owns the stadium and they have never discriminated with who's playing there. Therein lied the problem. As for concessions Charger fans were used to paying higher prices, not college fans. I'm willing to bet that if Aztec Shops runs the concessions in the new stadium, it'll be cheaper to get sloshed and on a full stomach. BTW, I've never attended a MBB game in Viejas. How are the prices there? $10 for a 8 oz beer...Aztec Shops ain't cheap. There is a thing called economy of scale. If Viejas attendance drops then ultimately so too will the price of suds.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Feb 16, 2019 7:33:56 GMT -8
Economy of scale is where volume reduces the manufacturing unit cost. Since Aztec Shops could have a monopoly, the market price will be higher and set where dimishing demand crosses the increasing cost curve.
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Post by aztecfred on Feb 16, 2019 20:01:02 GMT -8
She was at game tonite hanging with the Gucci crowd. As with all the Aztec bigwigs she never acknowledged or even noticed anyone else there.
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Post by myownwords on Feb 17, 2019 11:35:27 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. Here's a partial comparison of our current ticket prices to most of the Mountain West. These prices are for mid-field seats, as close to our club level seats as possible including required donation. SDSU $311-$511 BSU $865 CSU $550-$750 WYO $735 UNR $675 FSU $526-$1276 UNM $450 SJSU $295-$775 UNLV $230-305 This should give us an idea of where our ticket prices are going to be in the new stadium. We'll no longer be near the bottom in ticket prices.
Nice work on gathering that. Very interesting. Thanks for going to the trouble.
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Post by sdsudevil on Feb 17, 2019 11:45:59 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. College tailgating can happen on the lawns. Tailgating in a parking lot is the worst version of tailgating unless you are bringing an RV. And I took the same survey, prices were affordable, and about the same as the upper-tier MW programs. You have been spoiled by low prices.
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Post by AzTex on Feb 17, 2019 11:52:30 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. College tailgating can happen on the lawns. Tailgating in a parking lot is the worst version of tailgating unless you are bringing an RV. And I took the same survey, prices were affordable, and about the same as the upper-tier MW programs. You have been spoiled by low prices. I remember the exact same price shock when the pricing of seats in Cox, now Viejas, arena came out. Substanially higher then they were at the Sports Arena. Now they don't really seem so bad, excepts for the seats I really want down lower at center court.
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Post by azman on Feb 17, 2019 12:36:05 GMT -8
$10 for a 8 oz beer...Aztec Shops ain't cheap. There is a thing called economy of scale. If Viejas attendance drops then ultimately so too will the price of suds. That's called supply and demand, not economy of scale.
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Post by aztech on Feb 17, 2019 14:47:12 GMT -8
There is a thing called economy of scale. If Viejas attendance drops then ultimately so too will the price of suds. That's called supply and demand, not economy of scale. Pretty much the same thing in this case.
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Post by Spud on Feb 19, 2019 14:20:09 GMT -8
College tailgating can happen on the lawns. Tailgating in a parking lot is the worst version of tailgating unless you are bringing an RV. And I took the same survey, prices were affordable, and about the same as the upper-tier MW programs. You have been spoiled by low prices. I remember the exact same price shock when the pricing of seats in Cox, now Viejas, arena came out. Substanially higher then they were at the Sports Arena. Now they don't really seem so bad, excepts for the seats I really want down lower at center court. Well, I'd argue that the basketball team has had a far greater national reach than the football team and far more excitement around the program than the football team. I think the prices for football and the quality of the opponents we play at home is about right.
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Post by Spud on Feb 19, 2019 14:21:28 GMT -8
The University sent out a survey a year or so ago asking about how much I'd be willing to pay for various sections in the stadium. I'm not a cheap guy, but the prices they were floating were ridiculous given the mostly low caliber opponents we seem to play every year. I don't remember exact amounts, but coupled with no tailgating, I was resigned that maybe Aztec football would be a memory for me and my friends who go to the games. College tailgating can happen on the lawns. Tailgating in a parking lot is the worst version of tailgating unless you are bringing an RV. And I took the same survey, prices were affordable, and about the same as the upper-tier MW programs. You have been spoiled by low prices. Guess you don't tailgate...shlepping in tents, coolers, etc is not easy on the trolley....
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