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Post by ptsdthor on Mar 23, 2010 8:53:35 GMT -8
What do you think the various State's chances are to prevail?
I think they have a case but it will take months to meander through the lower courts. I predict the USSC will get it and correctly rule against it.
And the need for thousands of new IRS agents to enforce the insurance procurement mandate will become an absolute albatross for the Democrats. These people will be living re-enforcements of the notion that Democrats simply adore the all-powerful state. Most Americans don't.
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 23, 2010 11:13:59 GMT -8
Hope you are right. Did you notice how Washington State Gov and Attorney General are fighting about the Suit that Washington is to file over this mess.
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Post by ptsdthor on Mar 23, 2010 11:38:22 GMT -8
Perhaps this issue will make it all the down to the state level elections. If so, I couldn't be happier, especially with districting after re-apportionment coming. I fear CA may be a lost cause, however. If Moonbeam gets elected, I think the middle class exodus from CA thereafter will make the exodus out of LA after the Rodney King riots look like childs play. I'm starting to think it might be better to endure some crappy weather and let some renter pay down my mortgage and my property taxes as I avoid some of the nation's highest state income taxes, gas prices, sales taxes, crime rates, insurance rates, let alone the nanny-state and enviro-whaco laws that would follow  |
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 23, 2010 11:44:45 GMT -8
Perhaps this issue will make it all the down to the state level elections. If so, I couldn't be happier, especially with districting after re-apportionment coming. I fear CA may be a lost cause, however. If Moonbeam gets elected, I think the middle class exodus from CA thereafter will make the exodus out of LA after the Rodney King riots look like childs play. I'm starting to think it might be better to endure some crappy weather and let some renter pay down my mortgage and my property taxes as I avoid some of the nation's highest state income taxes, gas prices, sales taxes, crime rates, insurance rates, let alone the nanny-state and enviro-whaco laws that would follow I hear you, but my wife won't leave. I would go to Las Vegas or Texas, but I would be going alone and that is not in the cards. |
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Post by davdesid on Mar 23, 2010 15:15:17 GMT -8
JMHO, but I don't think the states have much of a chance with this in the courts. The feds can do damned near anything they want under the last 70 years of Commerce Clause jurisprudence.
The courts will punt the issue back to the people... "You elected them, now live with it..."
That is where the ultimate outcome will reside. And that may not be such a bad thing.
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Post by ptsdthor on Mar 23, 2010 16:08:15 GMT -8
So the promise is that Obama care will magically lower medical costs per family, lower medical costs for small business, lower medical costs for the government, reduce deficits, add tens of millions to new coverage and all without concern to pre-existing conditions. The perpetual motion machine has a better chance of being invented before the combined promises of Obama's care ever becoming true, especially midst the existence of record unemployment, reduced tax revenues and a 12 Trillion dollar debt (and growing). I'm hopeful that the USSC can see the idiocy of this policy and find a way to stop the run away Commerce Clause freight train the Democrats are driving. www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajwSWE6H1kHMBy the way, is that a harp in Obama's other hand? |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Mar 25, 2010 8:07:55 GMT -8
Whaa Whaa Boo Hoo Hoo
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 25, 2010 14:56:25 GMT -8
Please be informed that your thought (thought?) is being added to our list of the most relevant, intelligent responses of the month!  AzWm |
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Post by aztecwin on Mar 28, 2010 13:19:19 GMT -8
We will not know the full extent of the damage of ObamaKare for a while, but we will start paying the bill very soon. Increased taxes, reduced Medicare, and other forms of rationing will come on board at near the same rate as the bill gets implemented. How long can we maintain this folly if it takes ten years of taxes coupled with reduced benefits to cover six years of coverage. Sounds like it is unsustainable and that was the plan from the get go. Better tell Grandpa and Grandma to get their things in order and tell you kids there are certain chronic conditions that they are going to have to learn to live with.
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