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Post by aztecterrier on Feb 10, 2016 13:14:46 GMT -8
This was harder than I imagined. We've been lucky to have Coach bring all this talent here:
C - S. Spencer - Our top rated defense the last 4 years owes a LOT to this guy. PF - M. Slaughter - Ferocious rebounder, fierce competitor, 2nd biggest impact player of the last 10 years. SF - K. Leonard - Does it all at a elite level: his defense play became our hallmark SG - B. 'Bottoms' Heath - Best pure scorer to wear an Aztec uniform in the last decade, maybe ever. To be passed by Jeremy? PG - X Thames - Toughest call. I initially typed in DJ, as his resume for his career is greater, but X's Senior campaign...wow. Scoring at a high rate while limiting turnovers and taking an offensively challenged team to the Sweet 16 is what put's him over the edge.
2nd Team C - Malcolm Thomas F - Billy White F - J. Franklin G - Chase Tapley G - DJ Gay
Hon. Mention F - Abukar G - Richie Williams Point Forward - JJ F - Spain F - Wade F - Shepard
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Post by erogers on Feb 10, 2016 13:27:08 GMT -8
If I have to win 1 game with the right combination of players then here is my lineup. PG X Thames SG Brandon Heath SF Kawhi Leonard PF Marcus Slaughter C Malcolm Thomas This. J Frank isn't really a SG like everyone is putting him as, and Heath wasn't a PG. This squad would be incredible all at their natural positions Then...what is he? In my opinion he's a tweener; but he can play the 2... You could argue he may have been better than Bottoms...he was more efficent offensively... Bottoms is just such a legendary Aztec though...
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Post by aztec92 on Feb 10, 2016 13:46:03 GMT -8
If I have to win 1 game with the right combination of players then here is my lineup. PG X Thames SG Brandon Heath SF Kawhi Leonard PF Marcus Slaughter C Malcolm Thomas I like thinking about it the way tecpride put's it. PG X Thames SG J Frank SF Kawhi Leonard PF Marcus Slaughter C Skylar Spencer I think Jamaal gets the edge of Heath. Heath was a shooter. Frank was not as good a shooter, but he got to the line more, rebounded more. They are arguably a toss up as to who was the better defender. Sky get the edge, because we don't need the offense to go through our center with this lineup. We need his rim protection and finishing at the rim on the O-reb, or dish. And I think Sky is better then Malcolm in this regard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:50:58 GMT -8
I loved Mo Abukar but cant believe he is making so many people's list. Certainly not on my 1st team radar, but not even sure he makes my 2nd team. I would take JJ O'Brien over Mo on my bench for defense and versatility alone. I even saw Habel on someone's team which is a really tough sell for me too. For a 1 year guy, give me Josh Davis all day every day over Jerome Habel.
Post players over the last 10 years with greater impact to the team's success than Mo Abukar:
Slaughter Thomas Spencer Davis O'Brien White
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Post by survalli on Feb 10, 2016 13:58:29 GMT -8
PG Thames SG Heath SF Leonard PF Slaughter C Thomas
Bench: Gay Spencer Franklin Obrien
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Feb 10, 2016 14:21:08 GMT -8
This. J Frank isn't really a SG like everyone is putting him as, and Heath wasn't a PG. This squad would be incredible all at their natural positions Curious, what position would you put J Frank at? SF? Probably. His dribbling (while at SDSU at least) wasn't good enough to be a legit 2 guard, couldn't touch the ball with his left hand
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Feb 10, 2016 14:23:22 GMT -8
This. J Frank isn't really a SG like everyone is putting him as, and Heath wasn't a PG. This squad would be incredible all at their natural positions I like his lineup also... I had almost the same lineup but chose JF as my "SG" ahead of Heath, but it was more about picking who I felt were the best players, period, and less about position. Not to split hairs, but Malcolm is not a natural center either. More athletic and mobile than Slaughter to be honest and more a natural 4. Regardless, I will never argue with anyone throwing Bottoms on their all-time Aztec team. Comes down to personal opinions at this point. A few years back it was very easy to throw down your top 5, even of the Fisher era as a whole. Just about everyone would have the same answer. Program has had a lot of tradition the last 10+ years and it is now a topic that will give you quite a few different responses. That is an awesome thing. Yeah I initially typed out the Malcolm part too, but then deleted it. I think that's a really close call. He's probably more of a 4 but he could also seem like a 5 at times too
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 10, 2016 14:37:20 GMT -8
Slaughter, Leonard, Josh Davis, Thames, Tapley... final 4 team. "Team" is why no JF. These guys would work well together.
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 10, 2016 16:44:35 GMT -8
Slaughter, Leonard, Josh Davis, Thames, Tapley... final 4 team. "Team" is why no JF. These guys would work well together. The interesting thing about this list is that Tapley was the only one of these players to play 4 years here. None of the others mentioned played more than 3 years for State, and Davis only played 1 year. By the way, I love Davis, but for me, I'll talk Malcolm over him any day.
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Post by sickswonnyne on Feb 10, 2016 16:48:39 GMT -8
Slaughter, Leonard, Josh Davis, Thames, Tapley... final 4 team. "Team" is why no JF. These guys would work well together. Man, we would get EVERY rebound with this team. I'd like this team a lot!
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Post by tayloner on Feb 10, 2016 17:09:30 GMT -8
PG: Xavier Thames SG: Brandon Heath SF: Jamaal Franklin PF: Kawhi Leonard C: Marcus Slaughter
This gets the 5 "best" players on the floor IMO.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 10, 2016 17:35:09 GMT -8
If I have to win 1 game with the right combination of players then here is my lineup. PG X Thames SG Brandon Heath SF Kawhi Leonard PF Marcus Slaughter C Malcolm Thomas This. You did the work for me.
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Post by Justin on Feb 10, 2016 19:34:40 GMT -8
PG: Xavier Thames SG: Brandon Heath SF: Jamaal Franklin PF: Kawhi Leonard C: Marcus Slaughter This gets the 5 "best" players on the floor IMO. Like the idea, but Kawhi at PF is a huge stretch, and probably a poor decision. He is best at SF, and you gotta have our best player ever, at his natural position. You don't want Kawhi defending in the post. You want him guarding guards.
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Post by CbLsD on Feb 10, 2016 19:44:23 GMT -8
All lineups mentioned are somewhat similar but let me pose this question. Who would you want taking the last shot of the game? For me it's the X Man, no doubt about it. Not trying to high jack the thread but it's somewhat related....
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Post by sdsustoner on Feb 10, 2016 20:02:42 GMT -8
I made some edits when I pictured this team playing a game. I replaced Spain with Maal while inserting Davis as my back up PF. There are 7 other legit scoring options with the all-time assists leader dishing them the ball. Davis was added for rebounding. I replaced Mo Akukar with Spencer thinking defense and shot blocking over a decent offensive skillset.
First Team:
PG: Richie Williams. Is still the all-time steals leader and 2nd all-time in school history for assists. A guy with this resume has to be on the team at least. SG: Brandon Heath. Second in all-time steals in school history and left school the MWC all-time leading scorer. SF: Kawhi Leonard. Because it's Kawhi PF: Marcus Slaughter. Dude had offense and defense and the 3rd in career boards in school history. I know he was our 5, but C: Malcolm Thomas. Best passing big man we've had.
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PG: X Thames. Carried our offense to the Sweet 16. SG: Chase Tapley. When you needed a big shot, he delivered. I'd say he's the best shooter we've had in the Fisher era. 4th leading scorer in school history SF: He was MWC POY playing the 4 for us. Led us in points and boards that year. But, he's better off as a 3 PF: Josh Davis: Rebounding machine. Better than Leonard at this art. He's here for rebounds C: Sky Spencer: MWC All-time blocks leader. He's here for defense
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Post by sdsustoner on Feb 10, 2016 20:06:44 GMT -8
All lineups mentioned are somewhat similar but let me pose this question. Who would you want taking the last shot of the game? For me it's the X Man, no doubt about it. Not trying to high jack the thread but it's somewhat related.... Tapley
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 23:37:05 GMT -8
First Team: PG: Richie Williams. lol
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Post by fisherville on Feb 10, 2016 23:51:53 GMT -8
PG:Thames SG:Tapley SF:Spain PF:Kawhi C: Thomas
This is not the best 5 but I think a good combination of defense, athleticism, shooting, rebounding, spacing ect... I am far from a Jamaal hater and have defended him on here often I just wanted more spacing/shooting out there.
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Post by Justin on Feb 11, 2016 0:08:40 GMT -8
PG:Thames SG:Tapley SF:Spain PF:Kawhi C: Thomas This is not the best 5 but I think a good combination of defense, athleticism, shooting, rebounding, spacing ect... I am far from a Jamaal hater and have defended him on here often I just wanted more spacing/shooting out there. I'm sorry, but leaving Slaughter out is plain silly. See my comment on page 1 for his stats. His stats are ridiculous.
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 11, 2016 1:49:58 GMT -8
PG:Thames SG:Tapley SF:Spain PF:Kawhi C: Thomas This is not the best 5 but I think a good combination of defense, athleticism, shooting, rebounding, spacing ect... I am far from a Jamaal hater and have defended him on here often I just wanted more spacing/shooting out there. I liked Kyle Spain a lot. However, I just don't think he's at the same level as, well, pretty much everyone else on your mentioned team. For me, he's an honorable mention second-teamer at best.
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