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Post by sdcoug on Apr 22, 2015 6:39:08 GMT -8
At the last Aztec Club Quarterly there were 30 non staff attendees! 30! What a frigging disgrace. Agree. It was sad. Seems like if Rocky or Fisher aren't on the agenda nobody cares, despite the fact that both coaches who did speak have been very successful, and JD was very insightful.
Can't blame a lack of promoting it...think I got 4 emails.
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Post by standiego on Apr 22, 2015 7:54:20 GMT -8
To create interest as BSU did ( but they are the only thing going on in the state of Idaho for sports) is to WIN and be a championship team . Fans follow winners . Fisher had to work hard and years to get a quality team . UCLA had MBB fans when it wins , when they did win , fans did not show up. UCLA get fans for football by winning games and being rated as a top 25 team . They also have big TV money now . We need to win on the field with a Championship style team , led by a quality QB .
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Post by sdsustoner on Apr 22, 2015 8:30:18 GMT -8
If our QB is even average this year, we should win 10 games.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 22, 2015 9:41:12 GMT -8
Definition of optimism: HC Rocky Long team winning more than 9 games.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 10:26:06 GMT -8
Definition of optimism: HC Rocky Long team winning more than 9 games. Agreed, and yes I'm feeling optimistic.
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Post by myownwords on Apr 22, 2015 10:28:33 GMT -8
Definition of optimism: HC Rocky Long team winning more than 9 games. Agreed, and yes I'm feeling optimistic. Well, that's a good thing I suppose. Don't know how that translates into real success on the field, but good for you.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 22, 2015 10:48:54 GMT -8
I suppose that the Scout.com Pre-Season Rankings could be good fuel for optimism ...
54. San Diego State Biggest Positive: Donnel Pumphrey and the running game should be unstoppable at times – there are other options to help make the ground attack go. The O line will help with four starters returning, and four of the top five receivers are back. The secondary will be one of the best in the Mountain West, but … Biggest Negative: The defensive front seven loses most of the top tacklers in the linebacking corps and needs some reworking after a strong year. Quinn Kaehler is gone - the quarterback situation has to be better and more productive
41. California Biggest Positive: Get ready for the offensive onslaught with QB Jared Goff helped by a deadly receiving corps. Throw in 1,115-yard RB Daniel Lasco, and a good O line, and the attack should be balanced. The D is also back with talent with almost everyone back along with enough depth to be fresh. Biggest Negative: The experience has to turn into production when it comes to the pass rush. The kicking game could be a concern with PK Chris Borrayo done and P Cole Leininger needing to be better
45. Penn State Biggest Positive: If Christian Hackenberg really is an NFL starting quarterback, he has to step up and become that sort of a player. If he is, then Penn State can beat anyone. The defensive front was a brick wall, and despite losing Mike Hull, it should be terrific to go along with a secondary that gets everyone back. Biggest Negative: Are there any receivers? They have to be far better and far more explosive, and the O line has to be night-and-day better to keep Hackenberg upright and coming up with something for the woeful ground game.
Whole MWC: 31. Boise State 54. San Diego State 73. Nevada 74. Colorado State 79. Utah State 81. Fresno State 82. Air Force 103. New Mexico 104. Wyoming 110. San Jose State 119. Hawaii 121. UNLV
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 22, 2015 10:51:43 GMT -8
judging by those comments, Cal sounds intimidating
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 11:04:42 GMT -8
What have we really done on the field to justify being the most desirable broadcast? Besides being a consistent winner and perennial bowl team with 1 of the best RBs in the nation and a very good D? The only thing that matters. We put more eyeballs in front of the TV than any other team in our conference, which is exactly why CBSSN picks our games up regularly, not giving ESPN a chance. As a result, we get no bonus pool putting us towards if not at the bottom in media $'s every year.
If I'm not mistaken ESPN coverage is national. Boise State is the only one in our conference who has national appeal because of what they've done over the years. Hell for the most part we can't even win our lowly bowl games and aren't those on ESPN? What you're referring to is regional appeal, strictly due to our market. You've said this yourself, "I think many pepole have an inflated view of who SDSU is." Our notoriety in MBB doesn't transcend to our football. They'll have to do it on their own.
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 22, 2015 11:18:25 GMT -8
Besides being a consistent winner and perennial bowl team with 1 of the best RBs in the nation and a very good D? The only thing that matters. We put more eyeballs in front of the TV than any other team in our conference, which is exactly why CBSSN picks our games up regularly, not giving ESPN a chance. As a result, we get no bonus pool putting us towards if not at the bottom in media $'s every year.
If I'm not mistaken ESPN coverage is national. Boise State is the only one in our conference who has national appeal because of what they've done over the years. Hell for the most part we can't even win our lowly bowl games and aren't those on ESPN? What you're referring to is regional appeal, strictly due to our market. You've said this yourself, "I think many pepole have an inflated view of who SDSU is." Our notoriety in MBB doesn't transcend to our football. They'll have to do it on their own. No, what I'm referring to is CBS SN gets FIRST PICK on who they want to broadcast and because they want the highest share they choose SDSU. They DO NOT want BSU. ESPN rarely even has the chance to pick us.
Like many SDSU fans have an inflated view of expectations for the program, many of our fans also have an inflated view of how BSU is viewed nationally. From a media perspective they're not as adored as many think.
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 11:37:12 GMT -8
If I'm not mistaken ESPN coverage is national. Boise State is the only one in our conference who has national appeal because of what they've done over the years. Hell for the most part we can't even win our lowly bowl games and aren't those on ESPN? What you're referring to is regional appeal, strictly due to our market. You've said this yourself, "I think many pepole have an inflated view of who SDSU is." Our notoriety in MBB doesn't transcend to our football. They'll have to do it on their own. No, what I'm referring to is CBS SN gets FIRST PICK on who they want to broadcast and because they want the highest share they choose SDSU. They DO NOT want BSU. ESPN rarely even has the chance to pick us.
Like many SDSU fans have an inflated view of expectations for the program, many of our fans also have an inflated view of how BSU is viewed nationally. From a media perspective they're not as adored as many think.
From my understanding, CBSSN gets 1st pick of ESPN's leftovers. If we win the championship and bowl games on more than one occasion in short order then I'm certain that's when ESPN will come into play. Only then is when our media market would be an added plus for them.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 22, 2015 12:04:02 GMT -8
No, what I'm referring to is CBS SN gets FIRST PICK on who they want to broadcast and because they want the highest share they choose SDSU. They DO NOT want BSU. ESPN rarely even has the chance to pick us.
Like many SDSU fans have an inflated view of expectations for the program, many of our fans also have an inflated view of how BSU is viewed nationally. From a media perspective they're not as adored as many think.
From my understanding, CBSSN gets 1st pick of ESPN's leftovers. If we win the championship and bowl games on more than one occasion in short order then I'm certain that's when ESPN will come into play. Only then is when our media market would be an added plus for them. Uh, no ... CBSsn gets first pick of all MWC games EXCEPT Boise St. HOME Games (which are the property of ESPN) -- Boise St away games at other MWC teams are fair game for CBSsn. ESPN & CBSsn have an agreement to trade 1 or more games per season like a Boise St home game for a Boise St. away game or any other game that ESPN may want that CBSsn takes first. The ESPN deal with Boise St. only guarantees 3 games on ESPN/ESPN2, and of those 3 games, only 1 has to be on a Saturday -- all other games can be a weekday and/or on ESPNu/ESPN3
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 22, 2015 12:42:49 GMT -8
No, what I'm referring to is CBS SN gets FIRST PICK on who they want to broadcast and because they want the highest share they choose SDSU. They DO NOT want BSU. ESPN rarely even has the chance to pick us.
Like many SDSU fans have an inflated view of expectations for the program, many of our fans also have an inflated view of how BSU is viewed nationally. From a media perspective they're not as adored as many think.
From my understanding, CBSSN gets 1st pick of ESPN's leftovers. If we win the championship and bowl games on more than one occasion in short order then I'm certain that's when ESPN will come into play. Only then is when our media market would be an added plus for them. Nope. We could win the National championship & ESPN would rarely have the opportunity to select our games.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 12:47:01 GMT -8
The TV deal is a real bummer. But if nothing else it's allowed us to see how valuable we could potentially be. Looking at CBSSN's selection habits it would appear that SDSU and AFA are the surest ratings bets after Boise.
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 15:07:53 GMT -8
From my understanding, CBSSN gets 1st pick of ESPN's leftovers. If we win the championship and bowl games on more than one occasion in short order then I'm certain that's when ESPN will come into play. Only then is when our media market would be an added plus for them. Uh, no ... CBSsn gets first pick of all MWC games EXCEPT Boise St. HOME Games (which are the property of ESPN) -- Boise St away games at other MWC teams are fair game for CBSsn. ESPN & CBSsn have an agreement to trade 1 or more games per season like a Boise St home game for a Boise St. away game or any other game that ESPN may want that CBSsn takes first. The ESPN deal with Boise St. only guarantees 3 games on ESPN/ESPN2, and of those 3 games, only 1 has to be on a Saturday -- all other games can be a weekday and/or on ESPNu/ESPN3 Regardless of who or what the selection process is, CBSSN picks us mainly because of our viewership and media market size. They are a newer sports network and must seek whoever gets them the best ratings.
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 15:11:13 GMT -8
From my understanding, CBSSN gets 1st pick of ESPN's leftovers. If we win the championship and bowl games on more than one occasion in short order then I'm certain that's when ESPN will come into play. Only then is when our media market would be an added plus for them. Nope. We could win the National championship & ESPN would rarely have the opportunity to select our games. As dumb as Hair is, I doubt even he would prevent it.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 22, 2015 15:18:13 GMT -8
Uh, no ... CBSsn gets first pick of all MWC games EXCEPT Boise St. HOME Games (which are the property of ESPN) -- Boise St away games at other MWC teams are fair game for CBSsn. ESPN & CBSsn have an agreement to trade 1 or more games per season like a Boise St home game for a Boise St. away game or any other game that ESPN may want that CBSsn takes first. The ESPN deal with Boise St. only guarantees 3 games on ESPN/ESPN2, and of those 3 games, only 1 has to be on a Saturday -- all other games can be a weekday and/or on ESPNu/ESPN3 Regardless of who or what the selection process is, CBSSN picks us mainly because of our viewership and media market size. They are a newer sports network and must seek whoever gets them the best ratings. I do not pretend to know the process by which CBS/sn makes it's selection ... only that there are only 6 or so games that they are not allowed to select from when making their first 18(?) picks before alternating picks with ESPN. What I do know is that in the past there was the Mtn. and Cox4 that used to show Aztec games. More and more Aztec games have made their way to CBSsn which is both good (national exposure) and bad (no bonus). If its about the market alone, then why aren't they picking up as many Colorado St., San Jose St or UNLV games as there are SDSU games? I can only conclude, that it's about both the team and the market.
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 15:40:42 GMT -8
Regardless of who or what the selection process is, CBSSN picks us mainly because of our viewership and media market size. They are a newer sports network and must seek whoever gets them the best ratings. I do not pretend to know the process by which CBS/sn makes it's selection ... only that there are only 6 or so games that they are not allowed to select from when making their first 18(?) picks before alternating picks with ESPN. What I do know is that in the past there was the Mtn. and Cox4 that used to show Aztec games. More and more Aztec games have made their way to CBSsn which is both good (national exposure) and bad (no bonus). If its about the market alone, then why aren't they picking up as many Colorado St., San Jose St or UNLV games as there are SDSU games? I can only conclude, that it's about both the team and the market. I think ESPN3 has something to do with it. The idiot Hair signed over our 3rd tier rights to ESPN. Otherwise SDSU could have gotten decent coin and more bandwagon viewership from the local stations.
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Post by HighNTight on Apr 22, 2015 16:16:05 GMT -8
I do not pretend to know the process by which CBS/sn makes it's selection ... only that there are only 6 or so games that they are not allowed to select from when making their first 18(?) picks before alternating picks with ESPN. What I do know is that in the past there was the Mtn. and Cox4 that used to show Aztec games. More and more Aztec games have made their way to CBSsn which is both good (national exposure) and bad (no bonus). If its about the market alone, then why aren't they picking up as many Colorado St., San Jose St or UNLV games as there are SDSU games? I can only conclude, that it's about both the team and the market. I think ESPN3 has something to do with it. The idiot Hair signed over our 3rd tier rights to ESPN. Otherwise SDSU could have gotten decent coin and more bandwagon viewership from the local stations. Third tier rights are bid upon by Root network, and everything left over goes to the MWCnetwork -- ESPN3 is just another outlet for ESPN along with ABC, ESPN2, ESPNu, ESPNnews ... ESPN3 does not bid separately for games. BYU left the MWC because Hair would not let them have the 3rd tier rights to air their games on BYUtv ... SDSU would like to have our 3rd tier rights as well for use on FoxSportsSD or Cox4 -- but nope they are owned by the conference.
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Post by aztech on Apr 22, 2015 18:21:39 GMT -8
I think ESPN3 has something to do with it. The idiot Hair signed over our 3rd tier rights to ESPN. Otherwise SDSU could have gotten decent coin and more bandwagon viewership from the local stations. Third tier rights are bid upon by Root network, and everything left over goes to the MWCnetwork -- ESPN3 is just another outlet for ESPN along with ABC, ESPN2, ESPNu, ESPNnews ... ESPN3 does not bid separately for games. BYU left the MWC because Hair would not let them have the 3rd tier rights to air their games on BYUtv ... SDSU would like to have our 3rd tier rights as well for use on FoxSportsSD or Cox4 -- but nope they are owned by the conference. The Root network is regionally contracted with the MWC goat division. So the only time we might be televised on Root is when we play one of those goat teams. From what I heard they were under contract with Root before Hair negotiated the current deal.
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