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Post by legkick on Mar 19, 2015 7:18:46 GMT -8
Not surprising that Enfield and USC are getting the ballers and we're not. Any player with aspirations of developing his offensive basketball takes one look at Aztec basketball abortions like Wyoming the other night and says 'No frigging way am I playing with those O-tards." So we are forced to continue getting half a basketball player, perhaps a 1/3, in young Brodricks' case, players with one skill set out of 5 and some potential. Yay. Another project player. Wow, what a mean-spirited, nasty post. And, it has the wonderful benefit of being DEAD WRONG. 2014-2015 Adjusted Offensive Efficiency (PP100 possessions) San Diego State 102.2 = 170thUSC 98.6 - 246th 2013-2014 Adjusted Offensive Efficiency San Diego State 109.5 - 81stUSC 101.9 - 221st Enfield has a tremendous amount of work to do just to make USC respectable; not sure he will be given enough time and/or whether he can even make them a mediocre offensive team.
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Post by thepapacy on Mar 19, 2015 7:38:25 GMT -8
Not surprising that Enfield and USC are getting the ballers and we're not. Any player with aspirations of developing his offensive basketball takes one look at Aztec basketball abortions like Wyoming the other night and says 'No frigging way am I playing with those O-tards." So we are forced to continue getting half a basketball player, perhaps a 1/3, in young Brodricks' case, players with one skill set out of 5 and some potential. Yay. Another project player. This post is the one of the more moronic posts I have seen posted on this post board in the last 100,000 posts. Congratupostulations to this post. Can't tell if trolling or...
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Post by ignoranus on Mar 19, 2015 8:08:47 GMT -8
SDSU: Six consecutive appearances in the MM tournament. Won five games in the past 5 tourneys. USC: Won two conference games in 2015. Where would a 3-4-5* player have a better chance of being seen and a successful college experience?
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Post by missiontrails on Mar 19, 2015 8:29:17 GMT -8
Went to the game vs LCC last night. Metu is awesome, USC is really getting a player. He has handles, a beautiful jumper (hit two beautiful threes), and takes it strong to the rack with bounce... plus he's unselfish. BJ is going to be a project... extremely raw but has a nice athleticism and agility for his size. Some people think he'll be like DeShawn Stephens but I think he's a lot more raw then Stephens (although Stephens came here as a JR so that could be why). He had 4 points (was 2/2 from the FT line with a pretty nice stroke, and had a dunk which displayed his athletic ability) and I'd guess maybe 7 rebounds. Definitely was overshadowed by Metu, he's not a go-to guy on the team. I noticed one of his biggest things to work on is he fades away from the bucket on shots when he catches it in the low post. He was being guarded by a guy who was 6'5 but thick as a bull and was being incredibly physical with him so maybe that's why. It was a hell of a fun game to watch though, I'm glad I went. Looks like he has good potential after he develops more. I also saw coach Hut there Not surprising that Enfield and USC are getting the ballers and we're not. Any player with aspirations of developing his offensive basketball takes one look at Aztec basketball abortions like Wyoming the other night and says 'No frigging way am I playing with those O-tards." So we are forced to continue getting half a basketball player, perhaps a 1/3, in young Brodricks' case, players with one skill set out of 5 and some potential. Yay. Another project player. Wow - eom.
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Post by moctezumaii on Mar 19, 2015 9:25:26 GMT -8
Not surprising that Enfield and USC are getting the ballers and we're not. Any player with aspirations of developing his offensive basketball takes one look at Aztec basketball abortions like Wyoming the other night and says 'No frigging way am I playing with those O-tards." So we are forced to continue getting half a basketball player, perhaps a 1/3, in young Brodricks' case, players with one skill set out of 5 and some potential. Yay. Another project player. This post is the one of the more moronic posts I have seen posted on this post board in the last 100,000 posts. Congratupostulations to this post. Can't tell if trolling or... Why don't you try posting something constructive and discussion oriented? ANYTHING. Rather than sitting on your throne, high in the sky, judging those who actually post 'content'. Just have an opinion and quit telling the rest of us how to think. Again, I don't know how many times we have to say it: MY GOD, MAN, GET OVER YOURSELF and your startlingly high self regard.
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Post by thepapacy on Mar 19, 2015 9:26:13 GMT -8
This post is the one of the more moronic posts I have seen posted on this post board in the last 100,000 posts. Congratupostulations to this post. Can't tell if trolling or... Why don't you try posting something constructive and discussion oriented? ANYTHING. Rather than sitting on your throne, high in the sky, judging those who actually post 'content'. Just have an opinion and quit telling the rest of us how to think. Again, I don't know how many times we have to say it: MY GOD, MAN, GET OVER YOURSELF and your startlingly high self regard. murmurmurrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by moctezumaii on Mar 19, 2015 9:26:43 GMT -8
Not surprising that Enfield and USC are getting the ballers and we're not. Any player with aspirations of developing his offensive basketball takes one look at Aztec basketball abortions like Wyoming the other night and says 'No frigging way am I playing with those O-tards." So we are forced to continue getting half a basketball player, perhaps a 1/3, in young Brodricks' case, players with one skill set out of 5 and some potential. Yay. Another project player. Wow, what a mean-spirited, nasty post. And, it has the wonderful benefit of being DEAD WRONG. 2014-2015 Adjusted Offensive Efficiency (PP100 possessions) San Diego State 102.2 = 170thUSC 98.6 - 246th 2013-2014 Adjusted Offensive Efficiency San Diego State 109.5 - 81stUSC 101.9 - 221st Enfield has a tremendous amount of work to do just to make USC respectable; not sure he will be given enough time and/or whether he can even make them a mediocre offensive team. Good points. Though I would counter showing that we're 170th in tempo adjusted offense is not exactly a rip roaring defense. It puts in the middle of the pack, one step ahead of Sacred Heart. But I hope your overall point is right and I am wrong. Cheers.
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Post by moctezumaii on Mar 19, 2015 9:31:20 GMT -8
Why don't you try posting something constructive and discussion oriented? ANYTHING. Rather than sitting on your throne, high in the sky, judging those who actually post 'content'. Just have an opinion and quit telling the rest of us how to think. Again, I don't know how many times we have to say it: MY GOD, MAN, GET OVER YOURSELF and your startlingly high self regard. murmurmurrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL. Thanks for proving my point.
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Post by thepapacy on Mar 19, 2015 9:31:42 GMT -8
LOL. Thanks for proving my point. murmurmurrrrr
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Post by Kiwi Leonard on Mar 19, 2015 9:44:42 GMT -8
What's the point of getting the 5 & 4 star offensive oriented players like Malik Pope and Kell when Fisher is gonna make them defer to his beloved one that can't shoot or create when matched up against legit D1 talent. Well guess what fish, you made your slowest player the centerpiece of our offense and the results are in: sh!ttiest offense ever.
The way things are going, would not be surprised to see fisher give the keys to the offense to matt brickley next season.
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Post by standiego on Mar 19, 2015 9:56:41 GMT -8
Little doubt SDSU has been better then USC , especially the last few years . USC does play in a much better conference then the MW . Will be interesting to see if USC does make improvements starting with the 2015-16 season . They were able to out recruit the Aztecs near LA , with Metu and Boatwright , better then JH and BJ . LA guys do like USC and Bland. It is also the PAC vs MW . Jones seems to be a guy that has a slight frame that needs to be developed and needs to be motivated , so he is a project for our coaches .
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Post by thepapacy on Mar 19, 2015 9:57:37 GMT -8
What's the point of getting the 5 & 4 star offensive oriented players like Malik Pope and Kell when Fisher is gonna make them defer to his beloved one that can't shoot or create when matched up against legit D1 talent. Well guess what fish, you made your slowest player the centerpiece of our offense and the results are in: sh!ttiest offense ever. The way things are going, would not be surprised to see fisher give the keys to the offense to matt brickley next season. Honey Badger don't give a sht
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Post by legkick on Mar 19, 2015 9:58:04 GMT -8
What's the point of getting the 5 & 4 star offensive oriented players like Malik Pope and Kell when Fisher is gonna make them defer to his beloved one that can't shoot or create when matched up against legit D1 talent. Well guess what fish, you made your slowest player the centerpiece of our offense and the results are in: sh!ttiest offense ever. The way things are going, would not be surprised to see fisher give the keys to the offense to matt brickley next season. Terrible post. Read the quotes from press conferences and interviews, and a rational person must come to the conclusion that Coach Fisher gives his players freedom on offense and does not force them to defer to any player. The best argument against Fisher in the future is that he is giving too much freedom to the lesser-offensively-talented players and that he should design more set plays for the more-offensively-talented players.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 20, 2015 5:16:24 GMT -8
Went to the game vs LCC last night. Metu is awesome, USC is really getting a player. He has handles, a beautiful jumper (hit two beautiful threes), and takes it strong to the rack with bounce... plus he's unselfish. BJ is going to be a project... extremely raw but has a nice athleticism and agility for his size. Some people think he'll be like DeShawn Stephens but I think he's a lot more raw then Stephens (although Stephens came here as a JR so that could be why). He had 4 points (was 2/2 from the FT line with a pretty nice stroke, and had a dunk which displayed his athletic ability) and I'd guess maybe 7 rebounds. Definitely was overshadowed by Metu, he's not a go-to guy on the team. I noticed one of his biggest things to work on is he fades away from the bucket on shots when he catches it in the low post. He was being guarded by a guy who was 6'5 but thick as a bull and was being incredibly physical with him so maybe that's why. It was a hell of a fun game to watch though, I'm glad I went. Looks like he has good potential after he develops more. I also saw coach Hut there "A lot more raw then Stephens" is a scary thought. As-is 6'9" 190lbs. Sounds like he may not see any (significant) playing time until junior year? Yeah I really don't expect him to be a contributor at all as a freshman, but maybe he'll improve a lot during that year and be effective as a sophomore. In his defense, it was the first time I've seen him play so maybe it was a bad match up or something and he had a bad game. He's a 4 star recruit by some sources so there has to be a reason for that... although ESPN has him as a 2 star. I hope we can develop him... if he can develop some nice skill to go with that athletic ability he could be a real nice player
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Post by thepapacy on Mar 20, 2015 6:37:52 GMT -8
"A lot more raw then Stephens" is a scary thought. As-is 6'9" 190lbs. Sounds like he may not see any (significant) playing time until junior year? Yeah I really don't expect him to be a contributor at all as a freshman, but maybe he'll improve a lot during that year and be effective as a sophomore. In his defense, it was the first time I've seen him play so maybe it was a bad match up or something and he had a bad game. He's a 4 star recruit by some sources so there has to be a reason for that... although ESPN has him as a 2 star. I hope we can develop him... if he can develop some nice skill to go with that athletic ability he could be a real nice player I don't think he was brought in as an immediate impact guy. Look at the history of his recruiting and you'll see he was on track to be a McD's AA one-and-done type guy, then just never put all the talent together in high school/AAU, and has just recently shown flashes. This is one of those kids we've stayed on while everyone else backs off. We've been loyal to him and his potential. The pieces are there.
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Post by aztecswinagain on Apr 1, 2015 16:36:22 GMT -8
I've watched him play a couple dozen times the last couple years and have a much different view of his game then others on here. I've Been seeing a lot of talk about Jones' game and what everyone's expectations are and was pretty surprised.
Usually when we get a new 4 star+ recruit everyone has these huge expectations of the kid and they don't live up... I have a feeling that in Jones' case the opposite will happen. People assuming he will redshirt or won't contribute until Junior year etc are going to be in for a real surprise.
I think he'll end up playing next season. For all the negatives I see on here about why he won't play or contribute for a long time there are just as many positives to his game that make me think he will see the floor in 15-16.
He has that High Major athleticism and length that we have become accustomed to seeing at Viejas but that is far from his only positive. He has outstanding court vision and is easily one of the best passing bigs on the west coast. He's a very tough guy to guard because he is a face up 4 who can drive his man to the hoop or hit the 12-15 footers with ease. Ask anyone who has seen him play a few times and the first thing they'll rave to you about is his midrange shooting. He has one of the prettiest strokes for a guy his size.
About 3 weeks ago I'm at the Lawndale/Canyon game in the CIF playoffs and the first few minutes of the game he steals the ball on one end, Does a spin move on the baseline for a dunk and then splashes a 15 footer from the baseline the very next play. Like almost all Freshmen He will have things to improve on and will need to develop and continue to work to make an impact early on but he certainly has the talent and is a much much much better player than some of these "scouting reports" im reading on here that many of you are basing off of a 3 minute highlight or 1 of his games at Torrey Pines that you went to.
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Post by aztech on Apr 1, 2015 16:58:50 GMT -8
I've watched him play a couple dozen times the last couple years and have a much different view of his game then others on here. I've Been seeing a lot of talk about Jones' game and what everyone's expectations are and was pretty surprised. Usually when we get a new 4 star+ recruit everyone has these huge expectations of the kid and they don't live up... I have a feeling that in Jones' case the opposite will happen. People assuming he will redshirt or won't contribute until Junior year etc are going to be in for a real surprise. I think he'll end up playing next season. For all the negatives I see on here about why he won't play or contribute for a long time there are just as many positives to his game that make me think he will see the floor in 15-16. He has that High Major athleticism and length that we have become accustomed to seeing at Viejas but that is far from his only positive. He has outstanding court vision and is easily one of the best passing bigs on the west coast. He's a very tough guy to guard because he is a face up 4 who can drive his man to the hoop or hit the 12-15 footers with ease. Ask anyone who has seen him play a few times and the first thing they'll rave to you about is his midrange shooting. He has one of the prettiest strokes for a guy his size. About 3 weeks ago I'm at the Lawndale/Canyon game in the CIF playoffs and the first few minutes of the game he steals the ball on one end, Does a spin move on the baseline for a dunk and then splashes a 15 footer from the baseline the very next play. Like almost all Freshmen He will have things to improve on and will need to develop and continue to work to make an impact early on but he certainly has the talent and is a much much much better player than some of these "scouting reports" im reading on here that many of you are basing off of a 3 minute highlight or a 1 of his games at Torrey Pines that you went to. That's good to hear and I hope you're right since SS/AC only have a year left. There were posters here who thought Spencer should redshirt when he was a frosh. Looking back, we should be glad he didn't. But then, James Johnson was given a scholie so even the staff is not infallible.
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Post by Gundo on Apr 1, 2015 17:11:00 GMT -8
Not sure what the problem is, this year USC has a better recruiting class then we did according to all the sources: Scout, Rivals, ESPN. They got to kids at 6'9 who play the same position, but they still suck. We have a better program and more talent hands down. Recruiting years are up and down. 2016 will be a monster year for us. Don't be a hater on BJ.
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Post by standiego on Apr 1, 2015 17:46:00 GMT -8
Taped and re watched the game they lost in the finals of the South Division . BJ is athletic but has a very slender frame for a C/PF (seems even thinner then MP ). So he will need to add to muscle to make a decent contribution down low . Next year Aztecs have SS/AC at the C/5 position. At forwards, it all depends on if WS and MP both come back , plus if DA stays , the only sure returnee is ZC . So that would be 4 forwards at the 4 and 3 positions . Very little PT . Also if they need another shooter MS could slide to the 3 position or TK . But if any of the 4 true forwards do not come back then there will be PT . Unless the coaches bring in a grad transfer. ZC red shirted last year , so it will be a decision for BJ and the coaches what would be better for BJ . BJ started out as a guy with great potential his first year in HS , but then seemed to coast until it was scholarship time this year . Plays under the shadow of Metu , on a team that is not very disciplined , so it all depends on what his attitude is and if he can start adding muscle to his frame. Believe we will know a lot more about the make up of the team by May . But it would seem better to have him start as some one that we know has a lot of upside but not counting on as starter or major contributor . He has 5 years to play 4 .
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Post by Frantic on Apr 1, 2015 18:14:08 GMT -8
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