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Post by aztecalum on Feb 28, 2015 20:46:03 GMT -8
First of all, I think we have a great coaching staff, best in the conference and one of the better staffs in the country. Having stated the obvious about our staff, tonight they were terrible. A couple of examples:
-Boise strength is all 5 players can score from the perimeter and their weakness is bodying up with opponents in the paint. -SDSU strength is top 3 defense in the country, offensive rebounding and making more free throws than the opponent attempt. Our weakness is offensive scoring.
What we did right tonight, our defense showed up as it always does - held Boise to 34.6% FG shooting - held Boise to 28.6% FG shooting on 3's
Where our coaches failed: - We played as if we were Boise, jacking up jumpers all night, Shrigley, Quinn and Kell a combined 4-23 (17%) and 2-12 (16%) from 3's - When we pounded the ball inside, JJ, Spencer, Chol and Shepard was a combined 13-30 (43%), consider it was even higher when eliminating Shepard's outside shooting - Boise was 16-20 from free throw line, SDSU was 7-11 from free throw line
Why didn't coaches adjust game plan, run more plays to get ball on block to Shepard, JJ, Chol? Why not post Pope on block against smaller defender? Instead of shooting wild jumpers pounding the ball down low will do several things 1). Create more opportunities for offensive rebounds, 2). open opportunities to kick out to open perimeter plays for good looks, and 3). Create more fouls thus giving the opportunity to make more free throws than Boise attempt.
Not our best coaching tonight....
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Post by aztecnation76 on Feb 28, 2015 20:56:39 GMT -8
First of all, I think we have a great coaching staff, best in the conference and one of the better staffs in the country. Having stated the obvious about our staff, tonight they were terrible. A couple of examples: -Boise strength is all 5 players can score from the perimeter and their weakness is bodying up with opponents in the paint. -SDSU strength is top 3 defense in the country, offensive rebounding and making more free throws than the opponent attempt. Our weakness is offensive scoring. What we did right tonight, our defense showed up as it always does - held Boise to 34.6% FG shooting - held Boise to 28.6% FG shooting on 3's Where our coaches failed: - We played as if we were Boise, jacking up jumpers all night, Shrigley, Quinn and Kell a combined 4-23 (17%) and 2-12 (16%) from 3's - When we pounded the ball inside, JJ, Spencer, Chol and Shepard was a combined 13-30 (43%), consider it was even higher when eliminating Shepard's outside shooting - Boise was 16-20 from free throw line, SDSU was 7-11 from free throw line Why didn't coaches adjust game plan, run more plays to get ball on block to Shepard, JJ, Chol? Why not post Pope on block against smaller defender? Instead of shooting wild jumpers pounding the ball down low will do several things 1). Create more opportunities for offensive rebounds, 2). open opportunities to kick out to open perimeter plays for good looks, and 3). Create more fouls thus giving the opportunity to make more free throws than Boise attempt. Not our best coaching tonight.... Yep. Clearly out coached tonight. As well as out everythinged. Truly an embarrassing and abysmal effort. Especially on the boards. Terrible game planning by the coaching staff, as well as terrible execution by the players.
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Post by halfnip on Feb 28, 2015 20:57:21 GMT -8
No idea. Everyone and their mother knew the game plan was to go down low and post up. I think our players were getting pushed off the block a bit, but there's no reason why we should constantly settle for jumpers.
Boise's defense is much improved, but still. Oh well. I guess we play to hoist another "co-champ" banner, eh?
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Post by Aztec Law on Feb 28, 2015 20:58:37 GMT -8
We were out hustled on our own floor in an important game… Ouch! Not a proud evening...
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Post by breaztec on Feb 28, 2015 22:51:05 GMT -8
Here is why we lost and will probably be one and done
Heading into Saturday’s 56-46 loss to Boise State, the Aztecs were 279th in Division I in points per game, 239th in field-goal percentage and 331st (out of 345) in free-throw percentage. Sorry, but if you can’t make a bucket, your chances of winning will kick it.
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Post by uncledougy on Feb 28, 2015 22:54:56 GMT -8
If SDSU scores more points than the opponent, they usually win....
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Post by thepapacy on Feb 28, 2015 22:56:03 GMT -8
Man, this just boggles my mind I honestly don't get it... It's easy to be proud after wins, it's more important to be proud after losses
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Post by northcountymike on Mar 1, 2015 1:20:30 GMT -8
Here is why we lost and will probably be one and done Heading into Saturday’s 56-46 loss to Boise State, the Aztecs were 279th in Division I in points per game, 239th in field-goal percentage and 331st (out of 345) in free-throw percentage. Sorry, but if you can’t make a bucket, your chances of winning will kick it. But hey, our defense is great!
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Post by northcountymike on Mar 1, 2015 1:23:43 GMT -8
First of all, I think we have a great coaching staff, best in the conference and one of the better staffs in the country. Having stated the obvious about our staff, tonight they were terrible. A couple of examples: -Boise strength is all 5 players can score from the perimeter and their weakness is bodying up with opponents in the paint. -SDSU strength is top 3 defense in the country, offensive rebounding and making more free throws than the opponent attempt. Our weakness is offensive scoring. What we did right tonight, our defense showed up as it always does - held Boise to 34.6% FG shooting - held Boise to 28.6% FG shooting on 3's Where our coaches failed: - We played as if we were Boise, jacking up jumpers all night, Shrigley, Quinn and Kell a combined 4-23 (17%) and 2-12 (16%) from 3's - When we pounded the ball inside, JJ, Spencer, Chol and Shepard was a combined 13-30 (43%), consider it was even higher when eliminating Shepard's outside shooting - Boise was 16-20 from free throw line, SDSU was 7-11 from free throw line Why didn't coaches adjust game plan, run more plays to get ball on block to Shepard, JJ, Chol? Why not post Pope on block against smaller defender? Instead of shooting wild jumpers pounding the ball down low will do several things 1). Create more opportunities for offensive rebounds, 2). open opportunities to kick out to open perimeter plays for good looks, and 3). Create more fouls thus giving the opportunity to make more free throws than Boise attempt. Not our best coaching tonight.... You may be right about the the "coaching" aspect. However, we wouldn't be having this conversation (yet again), if the team could shoot halfway decently. Seems to me there is no bona fide scoring threat and down the stretch when it really matters, no one's willing to step up and take the big shot. Towards the end, I was just hoping we'd start jacking up threes to at least try something else. Alas, we did not, and essentially conceded victory rather early on.
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Post by hbaztec on Mar 1, 2015 3:21:19 GMT -8
Man, this just boggles my mind I honestly don't get it... It's easy to be proud after wins, it's more important to be proud after losses Let's give every one a trophy! Because participation is the most important thing. They sure looked good in their uniforms! They played like crap and lost. What is there to be proud of?
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Post by bobcooper84 on Mar 1, 2015 6:05:10 GMT -8
First of all, I think we have a great coaching staff, best in the conference and one of the better staffs in the country. Having stated the obvious about our staff, tonight they were terrible. A couple of examples: -Boise strength is all 5 players can score from the perimeter and their weakness is bodying up with opponents in the paint. -SDSU strength is top 3 defense in the country, offensive rebounding and making more free throws than the opponent attempt. Our weakness is offensive scoring. What we did right tonight, our defense showed up as it always does - held Boise to 34.6% FG shooting - held Boise to 28.6% FG shooting on 3's Where our coaches failed: - We played as if we were Boise, jacking up jumpers all night, Shrigley, Quinn and Kell a combined 4-23 (17%) and 2-12 (16%) from 3's - When we pounded the ball inside, JJ, Spencer, Chol and Shepard was a combined 13-30 (43%), consider it was even higher when eliminating Shepard's outside shooting - Boise was 16-20 from free throw line, SDSU was 7-11 from free throw line Why didn't coaches adjust game plan, run more plays to get ball on block to Shepard, JJ, Chol? Why not post Pope on block against smaller defender? Instead of shooting wild jumpers pounding the ball down low will do several things 1). Create more opportunities for offensive rebounds, 2). open opportunities to kick out to open perimeter plays for good looks, and 3). Create more fouls thus giving the opportunity to make more free throws than Boise attempt. Not our best coaching tonight....
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Post by longtimebooster on Mar 1, 2015 6:56:35 GMT -8
Kell and AQ played terrible. Plain and simple. Worst game for either of them as an Aztec, IMO. Just couldn't understand it. There were several times when we were up by 6, 7 or 8 pts. and had chances to push the lead into double digits and then get a foot on BSU's neck and put the game away. But we were tentative and just could never land the haymaker.
There were at least three our four occasions where AQ got the ball WIDE OPEN in the corner. He goes up to shoot, hesitates, thinks better of it, draws a defender, then drives into a crowd of three defenders (who are able to gather themselves because he hesitated) and then jacks up a difficult, contested shot that has no chance. I mean, WTF? You're a D-1 bball player. You've been shooting great lately. Take the freaking shot. Why make things so hard on yourself? Drove me nuts. That seemed to be the story of the entire second half. We just made things so difficult when they didn't have to be.
Oh, and memo to Skylar, if I see you get a pass or gather a rebound under the basket again and then hunch down and lower the ball to gather yourself before going up to attempt a basket or dunk, I'm going to donate $10k to the athletic department on the condition that Fisher makes you run all the stairs in Viejas every day until you get the point beaten into that thick head of yours. You're 6-freaking-10. You don't need to gather yourself. Just keep the ball up and away from defenders and tip it in or hop up for a soft slam. Geezus, that move cost us at least 6 points last night because you got stripped three times under the basket. You're a big man. Start playing like one.
Rant over.
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Post by merkarrand on Mar 1, 2015 8:09:49 GMT -8
cannot be proud of a loss when the game was yours to win...see complaints about not getting the ball into the post...yes...but...are the players developed to execute posting up, footwork, reposting, etc...and even if they did know how..no one seems to know how to execture an entry pass into the post..when it does, it is a surprise and the ball is fumbled, i.e. Chol...and Spencer at times...But when they are expecting a pass and it is in rhythm, they can score....Not much coaching of fundamentals seems to be going on...Boise state was ready to exploit all weaknesses last night and they did after the adrenlyn of the start of the game wore off and poor substition combinations took it toll..at one point Pope was the only one in the lineup who could score and of course, Obrien's two moves was already adjusted to.
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Post by ctap13 on Mar 1, 2015 8:19:29 GMT -8
I agree 100%. Fisher needs to learn to run an offense or we are never going to make that next step. It was sickening to see that he only played pope nine minutes last night or whatever it was very close to that. We need offense bad he should be playing the entire game and we should be designing plays for him as well the entire game, but Coach Fisher never does anything like that at all.
Stop saying that he cannot play defense as that should not matter. He is a Great scorer somebody that we desperately need, and Fisher refuses to play him and give him the ball.
Seriously, if I was Malik pope, I would want to get off of this team right away. The guy is a top 15 pic of the NBA draft next year, Coach Fisher refuses to play him. This is an absolute joke!
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Mar 1, 2015 8:36:23 GMT -8
I agree 100%. Fisher needs to learn to run an offense or we are never going to make that next step. ... Seriously, if I was Malik pope, I would want to get off of this team right away. The guy is a top 15 pic of the NBA draft next year, Coach Fisher refuses to play him. This is an absolute joke! This is another epitome of the entitled, lack of perspective fan who seemingly can't understand the impact of his or her words. I mean, the other guy, moctezumai or whatever he calls himself actively suggests players not come here, now another is suggesting our current players leave. The reason, our coaches cant get them to the next step. Really, multiple sweet 16s in the last few years isn't good enough? Lets think through this, Duane Polee II was declared out due to more medical problems right before the game. DPII is one of the key heart and soul players to this team, you don't think it had an impact? If you saw Polee's demeanor last night, he looked dejected, like he was punched in the gut. I am sure that weighed on these guys. They aren't pros, their 18-21 years old. Cowboy up fella. This was a clunker, move on and look ahead and by God, don't get on the "players should leave" bandwagon with the moctezumai poster.
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Post by ctap13 on Mar 1, 2015 8:41:52 GMT -8
I agree 100%. Fisher needs to learn to run an offense or we are never going to make that next step. ... Seriously, if I was Malik pope, I would want to get off of this team right away. The guy is a top 15 pic of the NBA draft next year, Coach Fisher refuses to play him. This is an absolute joke! This is another epitome of the entitled, lack of perspective fan who seemingly can't understand the impact of his or her words. I mean, the other guy, moctezumai or whatever he calls himself actively suggests players not come here, now another is suggesting our current players leave. The reason, our coaches cant get them to the next step. Really, multiple sweet 16s in the last few years isn't good enough? Lets think through this, Duane Polee II was declared out due to more medical problems right before the game. DPII is one of the key heart and soul players to this team, you don't think it had an impact? If you saw Polee's demeanor last night, he looked dejected, like he was punched in the gut. I am sure that weighed on these guys. They aren't pros, their 18-21 years old. Cowboy up fella. This was a clunker, move on and look ahead and by God, don't get on the "players should leave" bandwagon with the moctezumai poster. Lol keep defending our great coaching staff! We have an absolute stud on the bench and he does not play that is very bad coaching! I don't care if he is not a great defender, you play him for what he has and what he brings. He is an absolute stud! If I was pope, I would be extremely frustrated and one off this team. He made a big mistake coming to our school with our defense minded coach. I am sure he is very much regretting the decision had he went to another school, he would be the focus of the teams offense or will be getting at least a lot of minutes.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Mar 1, 2015 8:56:15 GMT -8
I suspect you aren't an Aztec, advocating for players to leave. This coaching staff took a moribound program and turned into one of national respect. So they tanked one last night, have perspective. You do realize that Pope played 23 minutes but still has issues with switches and basic BBIQ tasks, hence why our real coaching staff is bringing him along at an appropriate pace. The kid hasn't played meaningful basketball since he was a sophomore in HS. Give them a break, they kind of know hat they are doing,, you certainly don't or you'd be coaching somewhere.
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Post by ctap13 on Mar 1, 2015 9:11:55 GMT -8
I suspect you aren't an Aztec, advocating for players to leave. This coaching staff took a moribound program and turned into one of national respect. So they tanked one last night, have perspective. You do realize that Pope played 23 minutes but still has issues with switches and basic BBIQ tasks, hence why our real coaching staff is bringing him along at an appropriate pace. The kid hasn't played meaningful basketball since he was a sophomore in HS. Give them a break, they kind of know hat they are doing,, you certainly don't or you'd be coaching somewhere. Not an Aztec? You are wrong! I graduated in 1999 and I am a season ticket holder! You guys still do not get it at all about this kid. The guy wants to play and completely deserves to play if you were starting and if he was the focus of this offense, our team would be so much better. 23 minutes? What game are you watching? He did not even play half of those minutes!
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Post by ctap13 on Mar 1, 2015 9:12:37 GMT -8
And when he did play? Only one play was designed for him and he made the shot. The guy took two shots. Are you saying you are okay with him only taking two shots? That is ridiculous!
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Mar 1, 2015 9:16:41 GMT -8
I suspect you aren't an Aztec, advocating for players to leave. This coaching staff took a moribound program and turned into one of national respect. So they tanked one last night, have perspective. You do realize that Pope played 23 minutes but still has issues with switches and basic BBIQ tasks, hence why our real coaching staff is bringing him along at an appropriate pace. The kid hasn't played meaningful basketball since he was a sophomore in HS. Give them a break, they kind of know hat they are doing,, you certainly don't or you'd be coaching somewhere. Not an Aztec? You are wrong! I graduated in 1999 and I am a season ticket holder! You guys still do not get it at all about this kid. The guy wants to play and completely deserves to play if you were starting and if he was the focus of this offense, our team would be so much better. 23 minutes? What game are you watching? He did not even play half of those minutes! I guess the truth doesn't fit your narrative. He played 23 minutes. He made some great plays and had some issues too. The coaches are helping him by bringing him along at an appropriate pace. I suspect if you were a coach, you'd get that rather than suggest the player leave the program. It's clear you aren't, just an entitled fan.
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