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Post by waxxon on Jan 29, 2015 8:01:50 GMT -8
When it comes to Aztec fans in general, the crowds at Viejas should be called the "No-Shows". We've barely even had a sellout capacity crowd for over 50 games in a row. I honestly think that ticket brokers control those empty seats and hope the admins figure out how to eliminate that aspect and get the tickets back in the hands of Aztecs and their fans. I'm convinced the four seats in front of me are held by ticket brokers.. Empty half the time, different people each time they are occupied, and sometimes only 2 of the 4 being used.
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Post by sportnlyf on Jan 29, 2015 8:46:34 GMT -8
Same with the row behind us.
With regard to The Show and next season, let's see how their recruiting goes, especially for those critical Snuggie seats. Can't wait for when the LOI's will be announced?
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Post by rockshow on Jan 29, 2015 13:18:25 GMT -8
The Show just wants to get sponsored and buy lettermans jackets, they don't really care about the TEAM at all.
There is no TEAM in LETTERMANS.*
(Technically there is)
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Post by smoothcat on Jan 29, 2015 18:27:18 GMT -8
Didn't realize we could do this. Thanks for the tip Adam! I knew we could email them but thought they always had to print them. Didn't know they could just show their phone and scan from there. Yup, go here on your mobile phone: oss.ticketmaster.com/aps/m/sdsu/EN/account/login?team=sdsu&l=ENLogin to your account, it'll show you games you have tickets for. Select the game and click the little arrow icon. It'll show you the mobile ticket. If you have an iPhone it'll allow you to add it to your Passbook or save it as an image. Works great! I did not know that either, thanks for letting an "almost" blue hair like me know!
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Post by oldie on Jan 29, 2015 19:36:43 GMT -8
Perhaps the old show should be invited back for a game. Fisher did it a number of years ago for an important game. Don't remember the opponent, but the Aztecs won. They were there in the front rows, not in costume but in effort. The half a dozen or so that got it all started, and named the student section, the Show, should get a little recognition from the newest version. From where I was sitting Tuesday, looked like the student section was emptying out sooner than the gray/blue hairs. Too many empty seats away from the student section. Sell or give away your unused tickets. 12000 full seats, not just sold seats. I don't think you have any idea of what you're talking about. Let me see. I was there when the student section had a couple of hundred attending. I was there when total admission was less than 4000. I remember original show members being interviewed by Jim Laslavic and were interviewed on AM sports shows. I left my blue hair seat to fill in a spot in one of the first 3 rows of the student section as there were empty seats many times. I remember original members being on the court with the cheer leaders holding up Go Aztec signs. I remember the originality of the old show. I remember losing to LV with a 10 point lead and a minute to go. I remember storming the court when SD beat Tark's fresno team. I remember Al Faux looking for show members to hug when SD won the tournament to get a ncaa bid. I remember the "Put in the white guy" chant when vegas was blowing out the Aztecs. There were pictures of originals in a Chicago newspaper. How about he Show Stopper signs held by byu fans in vegas. They didn't work. Do you know how the Show got its name? Ask. The Show has a great history and has grown since its beginning from half a dozen to 3000 in a short time. That's commendable and kudos to the students, team, and coach. It will continue to be the best student section in the country. It might need a little tune up, some co-ordination, but not much. Aztec for life.
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Post by AzTX on Jan 29, 2015 21:38:49 GMT -8
ESPN needs to film a 30 for 30 on The Show.
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Post by kaztec on Jan 29, 2015 21:46:48 GMT -8
Yeah I agree. I dont mind brokers buying up our tickets but they better get rid of them because there are so many people that want to watch our games in SD but can't afford the ticket prices that they are asking. Then the tickets are left unused which sucks cause we see empty seats everywhere in the arena. They could have a system that when the ticket is scanned it keeps track that your seat is occupied for that game. If your seats aren't occupied for some percentage of the games for the season you lose out on the opportunity to buy season tickets next year. Having season tickets isn't a right, it's a privilege. Well, technically, it's really neither. It's a commodity that is sold on the open market. If people buy season tickets and leave them unused, in my mind, it means the price is not high enough.
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Post by aztecking on Jan 30, 2015 6:28:42 GMT -8
They could have a system that when the ticket is scanned it keeps track that your seat is occupied for that game. If your seats aren't occupied for some percentage of the games for the season you lose out on the opportunity to buy season tickets next year. Having season tickets isn't a right, it's a privilege. Well, technically, it's really neither. It's a commodity that is sold on the open market. If people buy season tickets and leave them unused, in my mind, it means the price is not high enough. Yes, it's a commodity but not in the traditional sense. Someone who isn't a season ticket holder currently can't have season tickets next year (without going on the secondary market) by just offering the highest price.
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Post by Zuma on Jan 30, 2015 8:42:01 GMT -8
Yeah I agree. I dont mind brokers buying up our tickets but they better get rid of them because there are so many people that want to watch our games in SD but can't afford the ticket prices that they are asking. Then the tickets are left unused which sucks cause we see empty seats everywhere in the arena. They could have a system that when the ticket is scanned it keeps track that your seat is occupied for that game. If your seats aren't occupied for some percentage of the games for the season you lose out on the opportunity to buy season tickets next year. Having season tickets isn't a right, it's a privilege. They do have the right and the privilege not to use them, for what ever reason they want. Does this action, of someone buying season tickets with the sole intention of selling them, and then losing money because they ask for to much not amuse you?
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Post by onelittleindian on Jan 30, 2015 8:48:10 GMT -8
While I'm in the camp that the current classes (at times) have a ways to go to match the over-the-top spirit and creativity of the OG's, I'll also say that before anyone points out The Show's weaknesses, you had better be on your "A-game" each game for 40 minutes first. I know there's many of those games that trudge along that I lack the fire of a big game (or even a big run during a game), so there's always peaks and valleys, just as on the court and sideline.
Personally, I know I brought more energy when I was one of 2,500 than I do during modern times (I suppose the ~15 years of age has something to do with it -- and less dirty looks by some for wearing a red, white and black headdress in Vegas), but also there's more people following the team on the road now and more to pick-up the weight at the home games, so I can tone it down more often and there's still plenty of noise in the arena.
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Post by onelittleindian on Jan 30, 2015 8:57:43 GMT -8
On the ticket tangent and at the risk of re-re-re-re-re-re-being branded an 'elitist' ... I know when I have extra last minute tickets I'm somewhat afraid to give them away on here since for every intelligent, level-headed, sounding person who contributes, there's seemingly five idiots who I'd dread spending two hours annoying me on my nickel. When we had plenty of open seats it was less of an issue since you could usually find a respectable looking parent/child combo approaching the ticket window before the game and hand them to them (while informing them they could probably sit wherever they wanted since it wasn't going to be close to a sellout). <OLI ducks for cover>
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Post by aztecking on Jan 30, 2015 9:39:29 GMT -8
They could have a system that when the ticket is scanned it keeps track that your seat is occupied for that game. If your seats aren't occupied for some percentage of the games for the season you lose out on the opportunity to buy season tickets next year. Having season tickets isn't a right, it's a privilege. They do have the right and the privilege not to use them, for what ever reason they want. Does this action, of someone buying season tickets with the sole intention of selling them, and then losing money because they ask for to much not amuse you? Well you completely missed the point of my post...All it was meant to be was a potential solution to the problem of a "sold out" arena but a lot of empty seats during the game. I never passed judgement on whether it was right to buy season tickets and not use them all. It actually is a privilege to be able to have season tickets, I don't believe the school is bound by any contract to offer you the first shot at renewing season tickets over non-season ticket holders. It is just done as a gesture of loyalty.
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Post by Old School on Jan 30, 2015 9:46:54 GMT -8
So we're thinking "The Show" isn't the show anymore? Since Shownana and the Afros left, it's hasn't been the same, IMHO. Oldie Out
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Post by greysuit on Jan 30, 2015 10:17:08 GMT -8
It's not the same, but that is the cost of success. The show started when the team was terrible and very few attended the games. It was a rag tag bunch of students who just wanted to have fun and used basketball games as an outlet. They answered to no one and could basically do what ever they wanted because there was a total of 4,000 people in the arena and no one was going to make a fuss. The team slowly but surely turned into a national power and more of the general student population became more interested in attending games. However, since the team was consistently winning at that point and the games themselves were becoming much more entertaining there was no need for the newer crop of students (who were not there for the dull times) to fill the voids. The show also started to take flack for some of the things they had been doing for years but now since there was 12,000 people and they were getting national recognition, the school started to get up tight (BYU apology, ect..)
But it's really hard to argue that the show is still the same this decade as it was the last... It use to be a big deal to get into the front row of the show, you had to bring your A game every night, 90% of the kids in the first 3 or 4 sections were in costume. Now you look at it and even the kids in the first row are just wearing a show shirt and maybe one of the red and black wigs. The show use to do so many more chants than they use to, now you hardly ever hear a "that was stupid" or "were gonna beat the $#!+ out of you and you and you". It seems like when the school started to embrace and recognize the show (after the 2011 run) they kind of went from rebels out there to have a good time to a more corporate like structure... just my thoughts.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Jan 30, 2015 10:54:56 GMT -8
The Show was there... to the rafters. My only point was that it was a flat game for everyone. Had a couple chats with people in the "blue hair" category tonight. 6 PM midweek start times are just tough for people with 9-5 jobs. Traffic was brutal. People who live up north... a lot just don't bother. My counterpoint is that when this happens they SHOULD put those tickets on the ticket exchange so others can attend. Damn good idea to send them to the ticket office/will call whatever and donate them to someone that will fill the seats. I have tried this before, they will not take the tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 11:00:24 GMT -8
It's not the same, but that is the cost of success. The show started when the team was terrible and very few attended the games. It was a rag tag bunch of students who just wanted to have fun and used basketball games as an outlet. They answered to no one and could basically do what ever they wanted because there was a total of 4,000 people in the arena and no one was going to make a fuss. The team slowly but surely turned into a national power and more of the general student population became more interested in attending games. However, since the team was consistently winning at that point and the games themselves were becoming much more entertaining there was no need for the newer crop of students (who were not there for the dull times) to fill the voids. The show also started to take flack for some of the things they had been doing for years but now since there was 12,000 people and they were getting national recognition, the school started to get up tight (BYU apology, ect..) But it's really hard to argue that the show is still the same this decade as it was the last... It use to be a big deal to get into the front row of the show, you had to bring your A game every night, 90% of the kids in the first 3 or 4 sections were in costume. Now you look at it and even the kids in the first row are just wearing a show shirt and maybe one of the red and black wigs. The show use to do so many more chants than they use to, now you hardly ever hear a "that was stupid" or "were gonna beat the $#!+ out of you and you and you". It seems like when the school started to embrace and recognize the show (after the 2011 run) they kind of went from rebels out there to have a good time to a more corporate like structure... just my thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you wrote, except I hear a "that was stupid" and they "hey... you suck!" chant just about every game. FWIW Hirschmann is very strict when it comes to the Show as well. I know he's already apologized once for the show doing the "hey... you suck!" chant to an opposing school's president. President Weber was far more hands off of the Show. I think Hirschman is a great president overall but I don't think he really understands athletic culture too much.
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Post by greysuit on Jan 30, 2015 11:56:59 GMT -8
It's not the same, but that is the cost of success. The show started when the team was terrible and very few attended the games. It was a rag tag bunch of students who just wanted to have fun and used basketball games as an outlet. They answered to no one and could basically do what ever they wanted because there was a total of 4,000 people in the arena and no one was going to make a fuss. The team slowly but surely turned into a national power and more of the general student population became more interested in attending games. However, since the team was consistently winning at that point and the games themselves were becoming much more entertaining there was no need for the newer crop of students (who were not there for the dull times) to fill the voids. The show also started to take flack for some of the things they had been doing for years but now since there was 12,000 people and they were getting national recognition, the school started to get up tight (BYU apology, ect..) But it's really hard to argue that the show is still the same this decade as it was the last... It use to be a big deal to get into the front row of the show, you had to bring your A game every night, 90% of the kids in the first 3 or 4 sections were in costume. Now you look at it and even the kids in the first row are just wearing a show shirt and maybe one of the red and black wigs. The show use to do so many more chants than they use to, now you hardly ever hear a "that was stupid" or "were gonna beat the $#!+ out of you and you and you". It seems like when the school started to embrace and recognize the show (after the 2011 run) they kind of went from rebels out there to have a good time to a more corporate like structure... just my thoughts. I agree with a lot of what you wrote, except I hear a "that was stupid" and they "hey... you suck!" chant just about every game. FWIW Hirschmann is very strict when it comes to the Show as well. I know he's already apologized once for the show doing the "hey... you suck!" chant to an opposing school's president. President Weber was far more hands off of the Show. I think Hirschman is a great president overall but I don't think he really understands athletic culture too much. I hear the you suck, they just don't seem to finish it any more (which is probably a Hirchman thing). Maybe I'm just not paying as much attention as much but the show use to be on the "that was stupid" chant every dumb play, now it seems like its every 3 or 4 dumb plays. Either way it's not the same, the OGs had something special and were in the right place at the right time and it's just hard to replicate that. I'm not knocking on the show by the way, kids show up and still get loud and support the team. I'm just trying to give props and recognize the original guys/gals who were incredibly unique and creative and did it at a time when the team was not easy to support.
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Post by Zuma on Jan 30, 2015 12:42:41 GMT -8
I agree with a lot of what you wrote, except I hear a "that was stupid" and they "hey... you suck!" chant just about every game. FWIW Hirschmann is very strict when it comes to the Show as well. I know he's already apologized once for the show doing the "hey... you suck!" chant to an opposing school's president. President Weber was far more hands off of the Show. I think Hirschman is a great president overall but I don't think he really understands athletic culture too much. I hear the you suck, they just don't seem to finish it any more (which is probably a Hirchman thing). Maybe I'm just not paying as much attention as much but the show use to be on the "that was stupid" chant every dumb play, now it seems like its every 3 or 4 dumb plays. Either way it's not the same, the OGs had something special and were in the right place at the right time and it's just hard to replicate that. I'm not knocking on the show by the way, kids show up and still get loud and support the team. I'm just trying to give props and recognize the original guys/gals who were incredibly unique and creative and did it at a time when the team was not easy to support. But that in it self trivializes the new kids, and turns into a back handed compliment. The past is the past, and it isn't coming back. Or, we could keep this circle jerk going, and continue to pile on. Hey I heard we need an on campus stadium, and free throws are going to be the downfall of this team. Let's discuss that. I'm sure there hasn't been any of those threads on here before
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Post by greysuit on Jan 30, 2015 13:45:46 GMT -8
I hear the you suck, they just don't seem to finish it any more (which is probably a Hirchman thing). Maybe I'm just not paying as much attention as much but the show use to be on the "that was stupid" chant every dumb play, now it seems like its every 3 or 4 dumb plays. Either way it's not the same, the OGs had something special and were in the right place at the right time and it's just hard to replicate that. I'm not knocking on the show by the way, kids show up and still get loud and support the team. I'm just trying to give props and recognize the original guys/gals who were incredibly unique and creative and did it at a time when the team was not easy to support. But that in it self trivializes the new kids, and turns into a back handed compliment. The past is the past, and it isn't coming back. Or, we could keep this circle jerk going, and continue to pile on. Hey I heard we need an on campus stadium, and free throws are going to be the downfall of this team. Let's discuss that. I'm sure there hasn't been any of those threads on here before So should we never talk about and recognize the 2011 team because it trivializes the current team? Why can't we look back with fond memories of the past and recognize that there was something special?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 14:14:44 GMT -8
The Show today is very much like Aztec basketball. Not as strong of a starting lineup as the first sweet sixteen year, but a lot deeper.
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