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Post by AzTex on Dec 21, 2014 22:05:00 GMT -8
Nice move there Freddy. Worst case you'll be half right, otherwise you'll be 100% correct. No chance to be dead wrong. In my best Jim Carrey voice........Totally unintentional! Never admit to something like that. Take credit where you can. Likewise never say "no pun intended." Make it sound like you meant to be funny.
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Post by AzTex on Dec 21, 2014 22:07:11 GMT -8
My heart says we won't drop more than a couple of places.
My head thinks we could drop out completely. If my head is right I'm going to bash it up against the wall several times.
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Post by fatfreddy on Dec 21, 2014 22:45:22 GMT -8
In my best Jim Carrey voice........Totally unintentional! Never admit to something like that. Take credit where you can. Likewise never say "no pun intended." Make it sound like you meant to be funny. Fat Freddy ='s NOT funny! My days @ the La Jolla Comedy Store are living proof
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Post by Den60 on Dec 22, 2014 8:22:19 GMT -8
We have one bad loss (Cincy), two "good" losses and one good win (Utah). Looking at what happened in the rankings, WA should move up with a win at home against OK. Butler and Mich St both had bad losses at home. North Carolina had a good win against OSU. We have a couple of decent wins against Pitt and YBU on a neutral floor. The win against BYU could look a lot better if they beat the Zags at home next Friday. We could stay in the top 25 and we could fall just out of it. I really don't see CSU moving ahead of us because they have no quality wins but you ever know. As for if we can get back into the top 25 after conference begins I can say that of course we can. Teams in the top 25 can suffer some bad losses in conference play. I fail to see how Wichita St is ranked so high. They have played only one ranked team (Utah) and lost. They haven't beaten anyone else of note. If somehow CSU gets ranked then we beat them to get a quality win or two in conference. The Cincy loss is a tough one. It will be hard to get a high seeding in March even if we blow through conference and win the conference tournament. We probably peak at a #4 or #5 seed if we do this and other teams ahead of us stumble in their conferences. Trust me, the loss at Cincy is not going to be the difference in whether we are a 4 seed or a 6 seed. An OT loss, on the road, doesn't carry that much weight unless you played a terrible team. Cincy is not a great team, but at home they are a good team. When it comes to seeding, right now out west I would say that Arizona and Washington are both ahead of us. I could see Zona being the 1 seed in the west and Washington being the 3 seed. Throw in an east coast team as the 2 seed, and SDSU and Utah are playing for the 4/5 seed. That's not including any east coast teams that might have a better resume than us so far. So in reality, the loss to Arizona and the loss to Washington may turn out to carry more weight than the bad loss at Cincy that you talk about. If the Aztecs run the table in the MWC (drop 2-3 games) and win the conf tournament, they are going to be something like 27-6. I can see Arizona having a better record than that, but Washington and Utah??? Aztecs still have a good shot at getting 4 seed come March. I would be happy with a 5/6 seed. That gives the Aztecs a legitimate chance to win a game or two and maybe get back to the sweet 16. I'm not sure you are saying much that is different than what I posted. Cincy is still a "bad" loss, they got hammered by VCU in their next game. The Washington loss is not a bad one, they have yet to be beaten and have two wins against ranked opponents (though both at home), so I do wonder why people on here keep pointing to that one. Yeah, we played poorly and had to scramble at the end to make the game closer than what it really was. Obviously, the loss to the zonies didn't hurt us. The win against Utah is a good win. I think we can get through conference with 2-3 losses and I expect come the end of the season we should be much better than we are right now with our younger players gaining experience. Last year we got our high seeding largely because of the huge win at Kansas. We won't have one of those this year. For Washington and Utah a lot will depend on who they lose in conference to. If they beat each other but don't drop games to some of the lesser programs in the PAC-12 they could very well be seeded higher than us. I still think we get a high middle seed if things work in conference they way they are supposed to. I have said all along that I thought the Aztecs wouldn't be as good early as they would be later in the year.
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Post by ColoAztec on Dec 22, 2014 9:50:48 GMT -8
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Post by standiego on Dec 22, 2014 10:04:44 GMT -8
Means there is only CSU as a top 25 team in the MW . Aztecs will need the teams we have played to do well . Important game is Gonzaga and BYU . Need a BYU victory . Pitt to also do well . Also puts a lot of pressure on the Aztecs can not lose any Home game . Plus not lose more then 2 games on the road to get a decent seed in MM . Right now are we maybe a 6 seed ? Win at CSU 1/24 would be great , plus 1/14 At Wyoming ( not sure where they are rated ).
As mentioned loss at CINCY - a winnable game , could be very important.
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Post by junior on Dec 22, 2014 10:05:33 GMT -8
Drop of 8…Cincy loss was a real buzz kill. Hope they can get it back by March.
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Post by keepersdsu on Dec 22, 2014 10:19:38 GMT -8
Trust me, the loss at Cincy is not going to be the difference in whether we are a 4 seed or a 6 seed. An OT loss, on the road, doesn't carry that much weight unless you played a terrible team. Cincy is not a great team, but at home they are a good team. When it comes to seeding, right now out west I would say that Arizona and Washington are both ahead of us. I could see Zona being the 1 seed in the west and Washington being the 3 seed. Throw in an east coast team as the 2 seed, and SDSU and Utah are playing for the 4/5 seed. That's not including any east coast teams that might have a better resume than us so far. So in reality, the loss to Arizona and the loss to Washington may turn out to carry more weight than the bad loss at Cincy that you talk about. If the Aztecs run the table in the MWC (drop 2-3 games) and win the conf tournament, they are going to be something like 27-6. I can see Arizona having a better record than that, but Washington and Utah??? Aztecs still have a good shot at getting 4 seed come March. I would be happy with a 5/6 seed. That gives the Aztecs a legitimate chance to win a game or two and maybe get back to the sweet 16. I'm not sure you are saying much that is different than what I posted. Cincy is still a "bad" loss, they got hammered by VCU in their next game. The Washington loss is not a bad one, they have yet to be beaten and have two wins against ranked opponents (though both at home), so I do wonder why people on here keep pointing to that one. Yeah, we played poorly and had to scramble at the end to make the game closer than what it really was. Obviously, the loss to the zonies didn't hurt us. The win against Utah is a good win. I think we can get through conference with 2-3 losses and I expect come the end of the season we should be much better than we are right now with our younger players gaining experience. Last year we got our high seeding largely because of the huge win at Kansas. We won't have one of those this year. For Washington and Utah a lot will depend on who they lose in conference to. If they beat each other but don't drop games to some of the lesser programs in the PAC-12 they could very well be seeded higher than us. I still think we get a high middle seed if things work in conference they way they are supposed to. I have said all along that I thought the Aztecs wouldn't be as good early as they would be later in the year. We are speaking the same language. Looking ahead, the loss to Arizona and Washington "could/will" hurt us come seeding time given that that might be the only thing separating us from Washington (negative), or Utah (positive) for that matter. If Cincy turns out to be a top 100 RPI team, how would that be a bad loss? Especially on the road? Right now Cincy's RPI is between 60-80 depending on what site you look at. Don't let the loss to VCU fool you. I could easily see Cincy winning the AAC with UCONN being down. They are just like us trying to figure out what their offense is going to be now that their best offensive player (Sean Kilpartick) has left. They could easily improve all around just like we think the Aztecs will as the year goes on.
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Post by aztecsiggy on Dec 22, 2014 11:49:52 GMT -8
#25 Michigan State lost @ home (I believe it was) to a nobody! I saw we are out of the top 25 in one poll & still in the top 25 in the other - book it! Ha! You nailed! Well done fatty.
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