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Post by AZK619 on Nov 27, 2014 16:01:32 GMT -8
Didn't you start a thread alluding to this team potentially going undefeated.. You should be the last to cast stones here. Yes. So? You watched one game against the #3 team in the country, one of the best defensive teams, one drew conclusions from that single game. All I said was we could go undefeated but it was unlikely. It was infantile to start such a thread. You, the great statistician that you are, to start something like that, c'mon. Hey, if it makes you feel good then so be it. But it was very far off from reality. Even if we would have defeated Arizona, the chances of it happening (undefeated) were slim. The MWC is a grueling league with some good teams, nothing excellent. At least if you are going to respond to someone who you disagree, you can tell them why. Not some little dismissive sentence. This is for you - A lot of what you wrote, makes it seem like this is your first season watching Aztec basketball in your undefeated thread. See how easy it is.
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Post by standiego on Nov 27, 2014 16:35:39 GMT -8
Team is where most expected them to be 5-1 ( win over (#25 then) Utah , Loss to #3 Arizona . with decent wins over BYU and PITT on neutral court . Two OOC games are key AT Washington 12/7 At CINCY 12/17 ,(Need at least 1 win on the road) plus win all the remaining home OOC games . Our seed for MM could be determined by 12/18 ? MW - we are expected to win all the home games and not lose more then 2 or 3 road games . MW teams are not that good but the travel , altitude are hard on the players . Some of our guys have not played in altitude . Last year our loss to Wyoming was considered a "bad loss" to an unranked team . So unless MW teams jump up to top 25 or top 50 , loss hurts us. on a good note the AD for both Utah and BYU are on the selection group . Do not know what they really thought of our team ?
Your Q on why Polee got the quick yank , Coach Fisher is human , has his favorites JJ , Shrigley , Kell who get a longer leash
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 28, 2014 7:13:36 GMT -8
No ball movement? Did you miss the first two games of the tournament? You know why we had issues with ball movement versus U of A? It's the exact reason why teams struggle with ball movement against us. They have long, athletic players who form one of the best defenses in the nation. They do that to everybody.
Shep hasn't improved? Have you not noticed he actually finishes, got a mean streak and actually made some three point shots in addition to becoming a better defender and team leader? Explain your view.
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Post by oldie on Nov 28, 2014 11:31:22 GMT -8
thoughts and opinions: this is an excellent team with TEAM players. what's lacking, so far, is the player willing to take over the game ie X and DJ. when that player evolves and has the game go thru him, and is willing to make an individual play when necessary, then we'll see a big change in results. opinion.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 28, 2014 11:46:53 GMT -8
thoughts and opinions: this is an excellent team with TEAM players. what's lacking, so far, is the player willing to take over the game ie X and DJ. when that player evolves and has the game go thru him, and is willing to make an individual play when necessary, then we'll see a big change in results. opinion. From what I've seen...I'm just a fan a not claiming to be an expert, but it looks like Shep is trying to be that guy. His outside shot is vastly improved but not there yet. Kell seems to have the ability but the game needs to slow down just a little bit more for him.
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Post by rednblk on Nov 28, 2014 12:23:43 GMT -8
We Are National Championship Contenders
If Arizona is one of the favorites to win it all, why should we let 2 points prevent us from thinking any different. As our guys gain more confidence, take care of the ball and understand game awareness we will be one hell of a team.
What more do we need? We have one of the deepest teams in the nation We have one of the best defenses We have incredible athletes We have the talent We have the Coach
We have just as much of a chance at being champions as any other elite team.
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 28, 2014 12:38:40 GMT -8
Seriously if you dont think Shepard has improved I don't know what you're watching.
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Post by danloc09 on Nov 28, 2014 12:45:20 GMT -8
I see a lot of last years team. No inside game at all. Poor three point shooting. Poor free throw shooting. No ball movement. Didn't see one pick and roll. Yes we have a lot of good athletes but they just haven't jelled. I think Fish is going to narrow this down to eight that play. To have some consistently. And what has been said before we need to find a point guard that can run and control this offense. Shep to me looks like he hasn't improved at all. Polee not sure what is wrong with him but he has regressed. jJO still cant make a layup. Chol looks like he can be good but gets into foul trouble a lot to stay on the court. DaKari needs to be in the court more. Pope needs to trust his legs. Kell and Zabo are still young but I like Kells guts and offensive game, I think he is starting to believe he can play at this level and the nerves are being lessened. Why is Williams not playing I think he transfers after this year. Take a few days off and bring on USD Also if you didn't see one pick and roll the game you are watching is far different from the one actually happening. I'd also suggest you watch the Pitt game before talking about a lack of ball movement.
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Post by fisherville on Nov 28, 2014 13:19:50 GMT -8
We Are National Championship Contenders If Arizona is one of the favorites to win it all, why should we let 2 points prevent us from thinking any different. As our guys gain more confidence, take care of the ball and understand game awareness we will be one hell of a team. What more do we need? We have one of the deepest teams in the nation We have one of the best defenses We have incredible athletes We have the talent We have the Coach We have just as much of a chance at being champions as any other elite team. This is ridiculous
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Post by junior on Nov 28, 2014 13:30:27 GMT -8
I would like to see us playing Gonzaga regularly. That team has the potential to go deep into the tournament - today.
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Post by rednblk on Nov 28, 2014 14:27:26 GMT -8
We Are National Championship Contenders If Arizona is one of the favorites to win it all, why should we let 2 points prevent us from thinking any different. As our guys gain more confidence, take care of the ball and understand game awareness we will be one hell of a team. What more do we need? We have one of the deepest teams in the nation We have one of the best defenses We have incredible athletes We have the talent We have the Coach We have just as much of a chance at being champions as any other elite team. This is ridiculous It's ridiculous to you cause you don't know what a winner is. You are so used to losing that you can't identify.
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Post by aztech on Nov 28, 2014 14:43:37 GMT -8
I would like to see us playing Gonzaga regularly. That team has the potential to go deep into the tournament - today. I watched them play the other night. What are the pollsters thinking? They're overrated as hell. They have tall post players, but they're slow. They haven't played anyone yet so wait until they go against a good team that can out quick them. I was envisioning one of our guards going against the shorter Pangos. No contest. I'm confident we can beat them. Arizona will destroy them.
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Post by fisherville on Nov 28, 2014 15:06:37 GMT -8
It's ridiculous to you cause you don't know what a winner is. You are so used to losing that you can't identify. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Post by fisherville on Nov 28, 2014 15:07:58 GMT -8
I would like to see us playing Gonzaga regularly. That team has the potential to go deep into the tournament - today. I watched them play the other night. What are the pollsters thinking? They're overrated as hell. They have tall post players, but they're slow. They haven't played anyone yet so wait until they go against a good team that can out quick them. I was envisioning one of our guards going against the shorter Pangos. No contest. I'm confident we can beat them. Arizona will destroy them. LOL, Gonzaga is very good, they have a great PG that shoots lights out and doesn't turn it over, they have like 3-4 great bigs, and good wings.
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Post by junior on Nov 28, 2014 18:18:58 GMT -8
Zags are now 6-0. They withstood a huge comeback (12 pt) by St. John's just now and still came out on top at the end.
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Post by azteccc on Nov 28, 2014 18:20:51 GMT -8
Zags are now 6-0. They withstood a huge comeback (12 pt) by St. John's just now and still came out on top at the end. With some help from the zebras
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 8:47:17 GMT -8
Cincy will have a chance to be real competition tonight when they play Ole Miss in the Emerald Coast Classic. Ole Miss just upset #23 Creighton last night. If Cincy loses they will have no quality wins when Aztecs go to Cincy. They will play Nebraska before SDSU but Nebraska is below average
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 29, 2014 8:52:24 GMT -8
Cincy will have a chance to be real competition tonight when they play Ole Miss in the Emerald Coast Classic. Ole Miss just upset #23 Creighton last night. If Cincy loses they will have no quality wins when Aztecs go to Cincy. They will play Nebraska before SDSU but Nebraska is below average Don't they have the former CSU coach? I thought they were decent.
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