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Post by smoothcat on Nov 27, 2014 9:58:18 GMT -8
I don't think you can have him on the floor at the end of close games. Arizona was smart to foul him and other teams will also.
Certainly Josh Davis is being missed big time, he was an absolute beast inside and so far this team hasn't been able to replicate what he brought.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:06:26 GMT -8
Sometimes players have great games. Sometimes players have good games. Sometimes players have average games. Sometimes players have poor games. Sometimes players have terrible games.
Skylar did not have a good game. There is no reason to make any sweeping statements from it.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Nov 27, 2014 10:21:20 GMT -8
You guys kill me...a 2 point loss to the number 3 team in the nation...and you want to bench the team...especially our senior leaders...without them on the floor we would have lost by 20.
SMH in disgust...
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Post by NYCaztec on Nov 27, 2014 10:36:45 GMT -8
Sometimes players have great games. Sometimes players have good games. Sometimes players have average games. Sometimes players have poor games. Sometimes players have terrible games. Skylar did not have a good game. There is no reason to make any sweeping statements from it. This is true. I just really, really do not like this recent habit of losing to UofA and Spencer's hilarious effort last night makes him an easy target. Fish and Co will definitely be working on limiting the O Rebs these team are raking in against us and Sky will have to be a big part of that.
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Post by AZK619 on Nov 27, 2014 16:10:03 GMT -8
Straight to the point, Skylar has zero offense. Great shot blocker, good defender, sticks with his man. Nothing special as a rebounder.
If we are going to be a in crunch spot, it would be reasonable to expect he would be sent to the bench. Just me taking a stab at this, instead of seeing hack-a-Spencer. His free throw form is ugly. That scares me if he's going to be in at the late minutes of the game.
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Post by sdcoug on Nov 28, 2014 0:09:00 GMT -8
Straight to the point, Skylar has zero offense. Great shot blocker, good defender, sticks with his man. Nothing special as a rebounder. If we are going to be a in crunch spot, it would be reasonable to expect he would be sent to the bench. Just me taking a stab at this, instead of seeing hack-a-Spencer. His free throw form is ugly. That scares me if he's going to be in at the late minutes of the game. I don't have too much of an issue with SS's game. He played solid D and held his guy in check. But I don't get having him on the floor late in games when you need O. You don't lose too much defensively with chol and he can hit FTs and score.
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Post by fisherville on Nov 28, 2014 0:11:28 GMT -8
Straight to the point, Skylar has zero offense. Great shot blocker, good defender, sticks with his man. Nothing special as a rebounder. If we are going to be a in crunch spot, it would be reasonable to expect he would be sent to the bench. Just me taking a stab at this, instead of seeing hack-a-Spencer. His free throw form is ugly. That scares me if he's going to be in at the late minutes of the game. I don't have too much of an issue with SS's game. He played solid D and held his guy in check. But I don't get having him on the floor late in games when you need O. You don't lose too much defensively with chol and he can hit FTs and score. I think we lose a lot defensively, Chol doesn't have any timing like Spencer, he goes for way too many pumpfakes, and fouls way too much.
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Post by NCAztec82 on Nov 28, 2014 7:21:28 GMT -8
I don't have too much of an issue with SS's game. He played solid D and held his guy in check. But I don't get having him on the floor late in games when you need O. You don't lose too much defensively with chol and he can hit FTs and score. I think we lose a lot defensively, Chol doesn't have any timing like Spencer, he goes for way too many pumpfakes, and fouls way too much. This will be an interesting issue for team chemistry. The Chol vs. Spencer debate will simmer until coaches work out the rotation down the stretch, IMO. Most of the comments on both sides make good points, e.g., Chol adds scoring, Spencer is a superior defender, for now. You hate to sit JJ, but our front court is looking like more of a weakness than our back court, which is unusual for SDSU. One thing I know, you need elite guard play to get into the Final Four.
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Post by keepersdsu on Nov 28, 2014 9:07:48 GMT -8
Unless the practices by the coaches include Sky and Chol in the offense instead of having to be the ball screener for everyone else ,it is hard to have our centers feel they are an option on the coaches . Need more movement passes and less of the ball screen offense . Sky's job was to neutralize their big guy , who had been scoring for them . until the coaches make a concentrated effort to include him in practice and the game. Ashley dominated JJ , JJ has trouble with quality big guys and very quick PF's . At the end of the game he does need to subbed out and move Shepard to C , when we are on offense. I honestly have never heard of anyone being dominated by letting their opponent go for 6 points in a game. That's all Ashley did on Wednesday. Dominated??? People need to stop with the nonsense, and stop trying to make lame excuses for why JJ should not be in the starting line up. If you don't like him that much, you should be happy that he is a senior. At least you wont have to see him next year. Stanley Johnson was the one that dominated and did so because he is an NBA player.
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Post by perch on Nov 28, 2014 9:43:06 GMT -8
I don't understand why the coaching staff has not tried to change the way SS shoots free throws. His method is so bad there is no wonder he can't make them. I bet I could work with him for a week and his FT would improve dramatically.
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Post by pdraztec on Nov 28, 2014 9:59:27 GMT -8
Believe we will see more of Pope in these situations as he gets more time and experience, He is 6' 10" and can block shots, rebound and is a good FT shooter. Let this team assimilate and things will sort themselves out.
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Post by ignoranus on Nov 28, 2014 10:07:58 GMT -8
Hopefully, ZC will fully recover and get some meaningful minutes to show how great he is going to be, as well.
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Post by Den60 on Nov 28, 2014 10:28:53 GMT -8
Straight to the point, Skylar has zero offense. Great shot blocker, good defender, sticks with his man. Nothing special as a rebounder. If we are going to be a in crunch spot, it would be reasonable to expect he would be sent to the bench. Just me taking a stab at this, instead of seeing hack-a-Spencer. His free throw form is ugly. That scares me if he's going to be in at the late minutes of the game. I don't have too much of an issue with SS's game. He played solid D and held his guy in check. But I don't get having him on the floor late in games when you need O. You don't lose too much defensively with chol and he can hit FTs and score. Perhaps because we were behind and needed defense to try to keep the game close and give us a chance to make a couple of shots. The last play where Spencer was fouled was a great pass and great move to the basket. He got fouled. He is a poor FT shooter but if you look at the stats Chol is not much better. It would have been nice if Pope was a real option but you really would have to expect a lot out of a kid who has played only parts of 3 games in the lat two years to come in and shine against Arizona.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 28, 2014 10:31:47 GMT -8
I don't get why he didn't play Chol and Spencer both in the last 5 minutes. We were out-sized badly down low and couldn't rebound anything. Going to it earlier in the game could be a defensive issue since their 4 could stretch the floor plus it could get either chol or spencer in foul trouble, but I think it was worth a shot toward the end when things were looking bleak. We went about 9 minutes with only 1 FG at the end of that game
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 28, 2014 10:42:10 GMT -8
Unless the practices by the coaches include Sky and Chol in the offense instead of having to be the ball screener for everyone else ,it is hard to have our centers feel they are an option on the coaches . Need more movement passes and less of the ball screen offense . Sky's job was to neutralize their big guy , who had been scoring for them . until the coaches make a concentrated effort to include him in practice and the game. Ashley dominated JJ , JJ has trouble with quality big guys and very quick PF's . At the end of the game he does need to subbed out and move Shepard to C , when we are on offense. I honestly have never heard of anyone being dominated by letting their opponent go for 6 points in a game. That's all Ashley did on Wednesday. Dominated??? People need to stop with the nonsense, and stop trying to make lame excuses for why JJ should not be in the starting line up. If you don't like him that much, you should be happy that he is a senior. At least you wont have to see him next year. Stanley Johnson was the one that dominated and did so because he is an NBA player. Exactly He's a future lottery pick. We don't have those on our roster right now.
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Post by Den60 on Nov 28, 2014 11:14:46 GMT -8
I honestly have never heard of anyone being dominated by letting their opponent go for 6 points in a game. That's all Ashley did on Wednesday. Dominated??? People need to stop with the nonsense, and stop trying to make lame excuses for why JJ should not be in the starting line up. If you don't like him that much, you should be happy that he is a senior. At least you wont have to see him next year. Stanley Johnson was the one that dominated and did so because he is an NBA player. Exactly He's a future lottery pick. We don't have those on our roster right now. AZ has better scorers than us right now (at least when in comes to starters), but we were without 3 guys who can help us as the year matures. I thought we matched up pretty well with them. Spencer did an awesome job on Tarczewski. AZ had better back court quickness than us, Quinn had trouble all night getting an open look. Johnson was a difference in the game but if we do a better job hitting FTs and taking care of the ball we could have won the game. I'm not sure I agree that we don't have a future lottery pick on our roster right now. Shepard is starting to show some flashes and Pope sure flashes some potential. We just don't have a guy playing like a lottery pick yet, at least not on both sides of the court.
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Post by merkarrand on Nov 28, 2014 12:41:15 GMT -8
Spencer was up against post men with very good foot work and are strong. His forte is blocking shots but was screened out from being able to. I feel he can be a factor inside if he is taught footwork and post up postioning. On occasion he gets a bone thown at him. Right now his game is shot blocker, but against a well coached team, he is not. Why has the ooaching staff not worked with him on his free throw shooting. Shot put, side spin and hand postion on ball...The basics?
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Post by Abraham Lincoln on Nov 28, 2014 13:56:53 GMT -8
I have never seen such bad mechanics at the free throw line!I thought Davis was bad last year but this is crazy.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 28, 2014 14:29:08 GMT -8
Spencer is a difference maker on Defense. Our defense is a lot better with him in. He doesn't get that many rebounds, partially because he is often helping on defense. We need other players (who are not helping on the drive) to get defensive rebounds.
BTW Tarczewski who scored 18 verse Kansas St. only scored 3 verse us.
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Post by Gundo on Nov 28, 2014 15:05:06 GMT -8
Our rebounding is our weakness. Chol & Sky =1 board, ouch!
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