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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Aug 28, 2014 6:35:46 GMT -8
I'm not too worried. The only reason its a concern in my mind is because he can't get valuable experience against some of the lesser non conference teams. I don't see him playing a whole lot this season against the good opponents regardless so I don't see this as decreasing our chances against UofA (if we meet them in the final) or some of our other good opponents.
He'll do great things on the mesa and his upside is limitless, but we're stacked this year
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 28, 2014 6:44:42 GMT -8
Dakarai Allen may see some more time now, hopefully he can take it easy, find his timing in the offense and stay out of foul trouble on D. He was certainly active on defense. He had a lot of blocked shots, steals, and fouls. He could really fill out the right side of a stat sheet in a hurry. He fouled out of the Charleston game in 13 minutes. Against Washington he had 3 blocked shots and 3 fouls in 11 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 7:57:02 GMT -8
I hope that JJ surprises me. I am sure that Fisher's stubbornness in refusing to sit an injured ineffective O'Brien overly influences my opinion. His stats were good in a couple of games last year. He was really bad for a lot of games. He was overmatched the year before against big athletic teams. I just want to see a more fluid and efficient offense. I am hoping that we are a dominating defensive team and a good team offensive team.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 28, 2014 7:59:17 GMT -8
I hope that JJ surprises me. I am sure that Fisher's stubbornness in refusing to sit an injured ineffective O'Brien overly influences my opinion. His stats were good in a couple of games last year. He was really bad for a lot of games. He was overmatched the year before against big athletic teams. I just want to see a more fluid and efficient offense. I am hoping that we are a dominating defensive team and a good team offensive team. He was dominant before he got hurt vs. U of A
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Post by standiego on Aug 28, 2014 8:31:52 GMT -8
Would have been nice if Zylan had gotten an X ray ,right after the incident end of June . The team did not have him during the summer so they are used to not having him there, will probably go with Spencer / Chol/ JJ sharing the 80 minutes at C/PF ,with Winston sliding in there if needed . Does open up opportunities at SF for Polee , D.Allen and others to see what they can do - especially D.Allen ,if Pope is still injured . If Pope is truly healthy then SF should be in good shape. Do hope JJ has a successful fall at PF. True test the games vs Utah , BYU , possibly Pitt & Arizona (monster test with their front line), & Washington and & Cincy . If Polee , Allen and Pope ... can provide solid offense at SF plus Shepard , Kell ,Shrigley at SG then there may not be the need for as much offense at PF ,will need D, Rebounds and possible offensive threats down low .
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Post by ignoranus on Aug 28, 2014 8:40:09 GMT -8
By many accounts JJ was a BEAST during his redshirt year. I think that the BEAST will emerge as the Aztecs leader this year.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Aug 28, 2014 8:41:57 GMT -8
How soon they forget. Did you see the Arizona game last year before JJ broke his hand? Trouble? For Arizona. 6-9 shooting 2s 7-11 free throws Lead the Aztecs in rebounding No other Aztec was close to having a good game. That was the only game that JJ ever played that well. You can look at his injured paw as an excuse but he played a lot of minutes as a sophomore. He dominated San Marcos and El Cajon Jesus but he hasn't ever done that against division I talent save the Arizona game last year. hopefully a working hand allows him to score at and away for the rim. Hopefully it allows him greater foot speed to defend the wing and better rebounding to contribute at the four. I think that he ate up way too many minutes on this team last year. His first year he played because he had to. Deshawn Stephens was not good and Spencer was raw. I get that you have not been to the ARC and seen JJ hit 3 after 3 this off season. I believe JJ was our leading scorer until he broke his hand. I assume you did not notice how othen Fisher would send in JJ when the team needed to be calmed down. I know you have not talked to players about JJ. And clearly you have not listened to the coaches. Only a troll would say "that was the only game that JJ ever player that well".
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Aug 28, 2014 8:44:23 GMT -8
I hope that JJ surprises me. I am sure that Fisher's stubbornness in refusing to sit an injured ineffective O'Brien overly influences my opinion. His stats were good in a couple of games last year. He was really bad for a lot of games. He was overmatched the year before against big athletic teams. I just want to see a more fluid and efficient offense. I am hoping that we are a dominating defensive team and a good team offensive team. Nice to know that you know more about coaching than Fisher.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 28, 2014 10:38:16 GMT -8
Yes this obviously sucks. But keep in mind, Dakarai was ranked in the same neighborhood as Zylan coming in, and barely saw the court last year. Those who think our season is lost or that this will lose us big games early on have very little faith in our returning players who are really good, and a year older, stronger, BETTER. I think you are correct. On the other hand, every time somebody is out for an extended period, you lose flexibility. If you have a gun with an 8-round magazine and are short one, you will not have a problem if you need to fire only four or five times. If you are in an extended fight, however, not having that 8th round could be a problem. Also, losing one player may not be a problem if the roster is loaded, as ours appears to be this year. But what if there are further injuries, or even (I hate to think about it) a suspension or an academic failure, or a player does not measure up to his hype? At this point I'm not worried, but I would feel better about things had this injury not occurred. And we were already concerned about Pope. (My step-grandson was injured by a hit-and-run driver while riding a bicycle. Nasty foot injury, and he had hardware in the foot for a long time. Let's hope that in our case the injury is not so severe.) AzWm
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Post by kozy on Aug 28, 2014 10:54:58 GMT -8
Would have been nice if Zylan had gotten an X ray ,right after the incident end of June . The team did not have him during the summer so they are used to not having him there, will probably go with Spencer / Chol/ JJ sharing the 80 minutes at C/PF ,with Winston sliding in there if needed . Does open up opportunities at SF for Polee , D.Allen and others to see what they can do - especially D.Allen ,if Pope is still injured . If Pope is truly healthy then SF should be in good shape. Do hope JJ has a successful fall at PF. True test the games vs Utah , BYU , possibly Pitt & Arizona (monster test with their front line), & Washington and & Cincy . If Polee , Allen and Pope ... can provide solid offense at SF plus Shepard , Kell ,Shrigley at SG then there may not be the need for as much offense at PF ,will need D, Rebounds and possible offensive threats down low . He very well might have and probably informed the coaches. Think they were in contact with him throughout the summer? Yes!! Then there is the cost of a foot operation, rehab and strengthening. Might be that the coach told him stay off the foot, get what physical therapy he could and wait until he get here and he is covered by our health program. I do not know his family's financial situation however this young man seems to have his head screwed right and looking forward. He put his family first before himself. Just like the kid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 10:59:45 GMT -8
Fisher had admitted to a mistake in not playing Polee earlier than he did. I think he would admit that he gag obrien too many minutes as a one armed man last year. JJ is a good kid and like him. I am not judging him based in practice or his red shirt year. I can only see what he actually accomplished on the floor during games. I expect JJ to play far better than he did last year. I am just hoping that everyone gets a full shot at competing for minutes. No one is owed anything.
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Post by standiego on Aug 28, 2014 11:25:59 GMT -8
Zylan got screwed by the Arizona Prep school causing him to work on a HS class this summer. That meant he was not allowed to participate in Summer School and have an X -ray by the medical staff at SDSU . Believe he thought it was a simple injury when it happened but in hind sight - X-Ray end of June would have been helpful. We will all look forward to the development of all the returning players and the blending in of the new guys . It may not be quick but should be an enjoyable season . A lot of combinations are going to be available for the staff
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Post by aztecswinagain on Aug 28, 2014 11:27:46 GMT -8
Fisher had admitted to a mistake in not playing Polee earlier than he did. I think he would admit that he gag obrien too many minutes as a one armed man last year. JJ is a good kid and like him. I am not judging him based in practice or his red shirt year. I can only see what he actually accomplished on the floor during games. I expect JJ to play far better than he did last year. I am just hoping that everyone gets a full shot at competing for minutes. No one is owed anything. I think what you are not seeing and what our legendary Coach who does give JJ all those minutes is able to see are all the things JJ does for our team that do not jump out on a stat sheet. Playing smart, making the right decisions with and without the ball, Passing, Defense, and as longtimesdsufan was trying to explain to you a general calming influence when the team looked flustered. JJ is able to bring all of that to the team even when his scoring isn't on and that is why he got so many minutes last year.. Not because he's owed anything but because he brings a ton to the table even when he's not scoring 20 a game.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Aug 28, 2014 12:15:09 GMT -8
we went like 30-5 and totally overachieved with JJ getting all those minutes... I doubt JJ was bringing down the team by playing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 13:02:01 GMT -8
Our offense sucked. We had a terrible time scoring with many long scoring droughts. Calmly missing chippies and jump shots did not help. Our defense was monstrous. Calmly turning the ball over on a crunch time inbounds pass was not good either. I am just saying that if we want to win we need to get stops and make plays. If JJ plays like he has been rumored to play in practice we will have no worries. I just would like to see people get a chance to develop and get some playing time.
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Post by ignoranus on Aug 28, 2014 13:40:13 GMT -8
JJ won a game for the Aztecs when he got Fish to challenge an out of bounds call by replaying it.
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Post by standiego on Aug 28, 2014 13:57:49 GMT -8
Zeigler was at the JAM event and the water bucket challenge on campus today for the MBB team. Believes Zylan could be available by the end of December , Pope could be earlier .
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Post by sidebar2319 on Aug 28, 2014 14:51:36 GMT -8
a medical redshirt would give him an extra year. Do you really think that Z will stay at SDSU for 6 years? A redshirt year would give him 5 years and probably a BA for sure. I guess a medical redshirt year would give him an extra year if he was looking at getting an MA. Either way, it's his choice I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 15:44:40 GMT -8
a medical redshirt would give him an extra year. Do you really think that Z will stay at SDSU for 6 years? A redshirt year would give him 5 years and probably a BA for sure. I guess a medical redshirt year would give him an extra year if he was looking at getting an MA. Either way, it's his choice I guess. Huh?
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Post by AzTex on Aug 28, 2014 16:06:55 GMT -8
JJ won a game for the Aztecs when he got Fish to challenge an out of bounds call by replaying it. Doesn't count if it doesn't show up on the score sheet.
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