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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Jul 29, 2014 11:03:23 GMT -8
NIU is a much better team. How is playing better teams a move backward? Maybe you are confusing them with some other team. 2013 12-2 #20 in power rankings 2012 12-2 #22 in power rankings 2011 11-3 #32 in power rankings 2010 11-3 #27 in power rankings The Jordan Lynch years were kind. Either way, in the national scope, lose, and we just lost to a MAC team. Win, and we were supposed to. When we are trying to fight for G5 supremacy, an HnH with NIU doesn't do us any favors. Football people know SDSU isn't just "supposed" to beat N. Illinois. In fact, I think most of the country would see it in reverse. I think everyone in the Mid-west and out East would expect NIU to win that game.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 29, 2014 11:25:16 GMT -8
From an NIU fan, I look forward to playing SDSU in DeKalb and also in San Diego over the next couple years! This is a great scheduling technique for both schools in regards to how the college football system has been set up. To all the naysayers who obviously know nothing about NIU, Jordan Lynch was only our QB for the past two years. We have had FOUR straight years of 11+ wins. And with any G5 conference, there are bottom feeders that make our schedules look weak and that includes the MAC, MWC, Sun Belt, and even the AAC. Anyways, I am pumped about this announcement and look forward to the one and one series our AD's have scheduled! I agree. The two schools are roughly equivalent in football. Emphasis on roughly. Over the last several years NIU has excelled, while SDSU has finally awakened and is now competitive. I do think that SDSU, on the whole, plays a tougher conference schedule. On the other hand, as my post above explains, the Huskies have had a good deal of success playing BSC/Power5 schools. We have come close several times (e.g., Ohio State and Michigan) but have only one win, against a mediocre Washington State team. I think there is general agreement among Aztec fans that an ideal non-conference schedule would consist of one very strong opponent, one very weak one, and a couple that are somewhere in the middle. For us, that would mean a recognized power, such as Penn State (already scheduled), an FCS school (preferably not as good as Eastern Illinois was last year), a Northern Illinois, and one other. A glance at our schedules of the early 2000s teaches us that it does no good to open conference play 1-3 every year. AzWm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 11:54:13 GMT -8
I'm not sure where devil dawg is coming from. This is a solid agreement against a school that HAS been in the public eye the past few years. Playing them and BEATING them is a good thing. Idaho? NMSU? Not so much. In fact, after our upcoming game vs. Idaho this year, and NMSU in I believe 2016, the best way to distance ourselves from those two is to ignore them.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2014 12:01:07 GMT -8
I'm not sure where devil dawg is coming from. This is a solid agreement against a school that HAS been in the public eye the past few years. Playing them and BEATING them is a good thing. Idaho? NMSU? Not so much. In fact, after our upcoming game vs. Idaho this year, and NMSU in I believe 2016, the best way to distance ourselves from those two is to ignore them. I will say this ... our 2016 schedule so far: CAL @ NIU NMSU MWC SLATE@ FRESNO ST @ NEVADA @ UTAH ST @ WYO CSU HAWAII SJSU UNLV Given this schedule ... we'd better hope that NIU is still the best in the MAC and that CAL is better than good -- we may have to add another P5 to the schedule
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:07:01 GMT -8
Given this schedule ... we'd better hope that NIU is still the best in the MAC and that CAL is better than good -- we may have to add another P5 to the schedule I'd be perfectly fine with that. Make it Alabama ta boot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:10:31 GMT -8
I'm not sure where devil dawg is coming from. This is a solid agreement against a school that HAS been in the public eye the past few years. Playing them and BEATING them is a good thing. Idaho? NMSU? Not so much. In fact, after our upcoming game vs. Idaho this year, and NMSU in I believe 2016, the best way to distance ourselves from those two is to ignore them. If the Idaho Vandulls want to come to SD and we have an available date, that's fine. However, we're 0-2 in our last two trips to the Kibbie & Bits Quonset hut in Moscow (pronounced moss-cow). We should never, ever return to that pathetic excuse for a "stadium." With regard to NMSU, we should only play them if they agree to a 2-for-1. I know that hasn't been the history between the schools but we've now progressed enough while they have REgressed so much that they should be erect if we even schedule them.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2014 12:11:07 GMT -8
Given this schedule ... we'd better hope that NIU is still the best in the MAC and that CAL is better than good -- we may have to add another P5 to the schedule I'd be perfectly fine with that. Make it Alabama ta boot. I was thinking it would be better to schedule B12 schools -- show 'em we can beat 'em, maybe they'll invite us to join 'em
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:14:00 GMT -8
I'm not sure where devil dawg is coming from. This is a solid agreement against a school that HAS been in the public eye the past few years. Playing them and BEATING them is a good thing. Idaho? NMSU? Not so much. In fact, after our upcoming game vs. Idaho this year, and NMSU in I believe 2016, the best way to distance ourselves from those two is to ignore them. If the Idaho Vandulls want to come to SD and we have an available date, that's fine. However, we're 0-2 in our last two trips to the Kibbie & Bits Quonset hut in Moscow (pronounced moss-cow). We should never, ever return to that pathetic excuse for a "stadium." With regard to NMSU, we should only play them if they agree to a 2-for-1. I know that hasn't been the history between the schools but we've now progressed enough while they have REgressed so much that they should be erect if we even schedule them. They're both FCS-caliber schools with nearly ZERO chance of getting any better. Idaho in particular with its facilit y (it doubles for their basketball court) and its virtual "end of the world" location. Cut the cord.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:16:20 GMT -8
I'd be perfectly fine with that. Make it Alabama ta boot. I was thinking it would be better to schedule B12 schools -- show 'em we can beat 'em, maybe they'll invite us to join 'em For some reason, we just can't get a B12 team on the schedule. When was the last one, Kansas 1999? Edit: Mizzou '09. How could I forget that f-up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 12:34:21 GMT -8
Now that I've looked at it, we've hardly EVER played the Big12. In the MWC era: Kansas '99, Colorado '02, Mizzou '09. That's it. For the rest of the conference (I'm gonna exclude TCU) Iowa State 6 times, the last being in '81. Oklahoma twice, the last time in '96. OK State 4 times, the last time in '84. Never met Baylor, Kansas State, Nebraska (now BIG obviously), Texas, Texas A&M (SEC), or Texas Tech. That needs to change.
Aztecs 7-8 all-time vs. above schools.
Colorado 0-1 Iowa State 3-3 Kansas 1-0 Missouri 0-1 Oklahoma 1-1 Oklahoma State 2-2
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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 29, 2014 12:40:27 GMT -8
I was thinking it would be better to schedule B12 schools -- show 'em we can beat 'em, maybe they'll invite us to join 'em For some reason, we just can't get a B12 team on the schedule. When was the last one, Kansas 1999? Edit: Mizzou '09. How could I forget that f-up. Better question would be last B12 to come to the Q. I would love to see home and homes with TTU, Iowa State, WVU, Baylor, etc. I just don't see them coming to SD. Looked it up, Oklahoma In 1996 And WE Thumped them.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 29, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -8
Playing them could be the difference between getting a, whatever the BCS has become, game and not. Not just because they are a good opponent but because they could be the one challenging us. Good schedules also will help us host the MWC Championship game. Remember that no matter what the country thinks about NIU, the computers will love them.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 29, 2014 14:11:25 GMT -8
I'd be perfectly fine with that. Make it Alabama ta boot. I was thinking it would be better to schedule B12 schools -- show 'em we can beat 'em, maybe they'll invite us to join 'em Better to play a good team than the bottom of a good conference.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 29, 2014 14:23:52 GMT -8
2016 09/03/16 Open 09/10/16 California 09/17/16 at Northern Illinois 09/24/16 New Mexico State Colorado State Hawai'i San Jose State UNLV at Fresno State at Nevada at Utah State at Wyoming
I realize that 2016 is still a ways down the road, but I like the looks of this '16 schedule as posted here. Before presenting my way-too-early-to-be-taken seriously comments, let me say that I am assuming that the Aztec FB program will be no worse in 2016 than it is now and quite possibly better.
* Open date: My guess is that this will be an FCS school. Hopefully one better than Nichols State but not as good as the 2013 Eastern Illinois team. Result: WIN * Cal. It's at Berkeley, but I still think it will be a possible win, depending on how their program develops in the next couple of years. We have beaten them there once already. The game strikes me as being a toss-up, but to be conservative, I'll say . . . Result: LOSS * at Northern Illinois: could be another Toss-up, but I'll again say Result: LOSS * New Mexico State: I feel for the Aggies' half century of futility, but . . Result: WIN * Colorado State: With fingers crossed, I see us reaching the point at which we seldom lose at home to this type of team RESULT: WIN * Hawai'i: ditto RESULT: WIN * San Jose State: ditto RESULT: WIN * UNLV: ditto RESULT: WIN * at Fresno State: We lose there in '14, win here in '15, and in '16. . .Result: LOSS * at Nevada: I'm guessing that we win this or the next game. RESULT: WIN * at Utah State: see Nevada comment. ditto RESULT: LOSS
* at Wyoming: Always tough at Laramie, but I'll say. . RESULT: WIN
That makes us 8-4 for the regular 2016 season. 8-4 is fairly good, but for the seventh year of a resurgence it's really just mediocre. I think we all agree that we need to win 10 or more nearly every year to be taken seriously.
Remember, my predictions here are totally premature. Well, mostly premature.
AzWm
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 29, 2014 14:28:09 GMT -8
Please understand that my 2016 predictions are meant to be the very worst we should do such a schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 14:42:21 GMT -8
Cal game is at the Q, and I'll leave the rest of that mess to someone else.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 29, 2014 14:50:49 GMT -8
A backward move? When one looks at how we and NIU have done since 2000, it would appear that it's NIU that would be taking a backward step by scheduling SDSU. Look at the records. . .
While we were playing TCU, Utah and BYU, they were playing in the MAC. Can't say much about our OOC, but we usually play teams with national implications, their best win was what, against Bama? 4 win Bama? I am not even saying they are bad. I am saying that your stats have confounding factors, and still, NIU/SDSU does no favors. If it makes you feel better, it does them little either, I suppose. You mean while the Aztecs were losing to TCU, Utah and BYU? There's no doubt the loss of these three programs created a huge vacuum in the MW conference that the replacements haven't been able to fill. But aside from holding up the conference for years, then gaining some semblance of respectability since their departure, no one can argue the Aztec have ascended to conference elite status. As such, I'm of the position that is doesn't matter who the team plays, just win the games.
(Maybe then, I can stop reminiscing about ten win seasons back in the '70's of the last century).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 14:54:22 GMT -8
(Maybe then, I can stop reminiscing about ten win seasons back in the '70's of the last century). Nothing would make me happier this year, if only to shut your pie hole. Now crawl back to your blackjack table.
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Post by aztec619 on Jul 29, 2014 14:55:06 GMT -8
Now that I've looked at it, we've hardly EVER played the Big12. In the MWC era: Kansas '99, Colorado '02, Mizzou '09. That's it. For the rest of the conference (I'm gonna exclude TCU) Iowa State 6 times, the last being in '81. Oklahoma twice, the last time in '96. OK State 4 times, the last time in '84. Never met Baylor, Kansas State, Nebraska (now BIG obviously), Texas, Texas A&M (SEC), or Texas Tech. That needs to change. Aztecs 7-8 all-time vs. above schools. Colorado 0-1 Iowa State 3-3 Kansas 1-0 Missouri 0-1 Oklahoma 1-1 Oklahoma State 2-2 We had that Missouri game. Damn block in the back!
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Post by badfish on Jul 29, 2014 15:48:06 GMT -8
2016 09/03/16 Open 09/10/16 California 09/17/16 at Northern Illinois 09/24/16 New Mexico State Colorado State Hawai'i San Jose State UNLV at Fresno State at Nevada at Utah State at Wyoming Still need another P5 roadie
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