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Post by azteccc on Jun 19, 2014 7:26:55 GMT -8
Truth. huff.to/1kGCm2k"As Iraq descends into chaos again, more than a decade after "Mission Accomplished," media commentators and politicians have mostly agreed upon calling the war a "mistake." But the "mistake" rhetoric is the language of denial, not contrition: it minimizes the Iraq War's disastrous consequences, removes blame, and deprives Americans of any chance to learn from our generation's foreign policy disaster. The Iraq War was not a "mistake" -- it resulted from calculated deception. The painful, unvarnished fact is that we were lied to. Now is the time to have the willingness to say that." |
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 19, 2014 9:13:20 GMT -8
Everything was under control until Obama and his cronies started to screw things up. Now it has turned into a soup sandwich. Every prominent Democrat was for going into Iraq and the news media has been playing those clips the last few days as the Dem deniers try to serve up the same BSA you do. Wait a minute, I should have said the responsible news media.
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Post by aztec70 on Jun 19, 2014 9:42:14 GMT -8
aztecwin once again falls into right wing parody. He should change his avatar to "I am only here to amuse you".
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Post by azteccc on Jun 19, 2014 9:52:54 GMT -8
Everything was under control until Obama and his cronies started to screw things up. Now it has turned into a soup sandwich. Every prominent Democrat was for going into Iraq and the news media has been playing those clips the last few days as the Dem deniers try to serve up the same BSA you do. Wait a minute, I should have said the responsible news media. Once again you miss the issue completely. Put on the dunce hat and sit in the corner. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jun 19, 2014 10:55:13 GMT -8
Everything was under control until Obama and his cronies started to screw things up. Now it has turned into a soup sandwich. Every prominent Democrat was for going into Iraq and the news media has been playing those clips the last few days as the Dem deniers try to serve up the same BSA you do. Wait a minute, I should have said the responsible news media.  |
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Post by davdesid on Jun 19, 2014 12:48:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 19, 2014 15:45:50 GMT -8
Kind of hard to dispute the video evidence. |
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Post by 78aztec82 on Jun 19, 2014 15:59:40 GMT -8
So, who's calling it a mistake? Sent from my SM-G900V using proboards |
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Post by azteccc on Jun 19, 2014 22:01:35 GMT -8
In y'all's right wing fury to immediately find fault in our current and future administration, you miss the point completely.
Biden is a joke... Who ever said otherwise?
Clinton is cut from the same jib as her husband and the Bush/Cheney crew. Are you guys THAT petrified of HilClint that she is somehow relevent here?
Let's stay on topic - something you right wingers love so much...
The Iraq War was not a mistake, it was criminal. And thousands of American troops gave their lives to support the lies of a crooked Administration. Their blood is on the hands of the Bush cartel, and we must not repeat our mistakes. We must not let the same dipshits claim 'expert' status this time around.
If Obama's special forces are the precursor to ground troops - which they are - he is just as much to blame as his predecessors, though his motives are no doubt different. Just another tally in the "Obama is really a center right president" column.
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 20, 2014 4:59:32 GMT -8
In y'all's right wing fury to immediately find fault in our current and future administration, you miss the point completely. Biden is a joke... Who ever said otherwise? Clinton is cut from the same jib as her husband and the Bush/Cheney crew. Are you guys THAT petrified of HilClint that she is somehow relevent here? Let's stay on topic - something you right wingers love so much... The Iraq War was not a mistake, it was criminal. And thousands of American troops gave their lives to support the lies of a crooked Administration. Their blood is on the hands of the Bush cartel, and we must not repeat our mistakes. We must not let the same dipshits claim 'expert' status this time around.If Obama's special forces are the precursor to ground troops - which they are - he is just as much to blame as his predecessors, though his motives are no doubt different. Just another tally in the "Obama is really a center right president" column. Why do you post this nonsense? The video evidence is posted above. |
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Post by azteccc on Jun 20, 2014 8:29:38 GMT -8
In y'all's right wing fury to immediately find fault in our current and future administration, you miss the point completely. Biden is a joke... Who ever said otherwise? Clinton is cut from the same jib as her husband and the Bush/Cheney crew. Are you guys THAT petrified of HilClint that she is somehow relevent here? Let's stay on topic - something you right wingers love so much... The Iraq War was not a mistake, it was criminal. And thousands of American troops gave their lives to support the lies of a crooked Administration. Their blood is on the hands of the Bush cartel, and we must not repeat our mistakes. We must not let the same dipshits claim 'expert' status this time around.If Obama's special forces are the precursor to ground troops - which they are - he is just as much to blame as his predecessors, though his motives are no doubt different. Just another tally in the "Obama is really a center right president" column. Why do you post this nonsense? The video evidence is posted above. I told you not to leave your corner. |
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Post by tuff on Jun 20, 2014 17:21:42 GMT -8
It's getting old saying Bush is behind this mistake. They ALL believed the data as per the video. It was a mistake, probably. I don't believe so. It certainly is not criminal. But like in golf, when you make a bad shot, don't follow it up with another one. I think the second mistake was pulling everyone out. Or at least, announcing a date to pull out. There is no outline to follow for this stuff. I just wish we were energy dependent and got the hell out of that part of the world.
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