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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Sept 19, 2010 9:05:16 GMT -8
Having been a student of history for a great many years, it would appear to me that the Islamic Republic of Iran is due for a military coup.
It would not surprise me in the least if that coup would have been totally supported by the United States.
Give it time. It should come soon.
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Post by OCEOTL on Dec 4, 2010 13:43:16 GMT -8
If the military doesn't do it, the younger generation will in time.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 5, 2010 11:33:33 GMT -8
But, Joe, just what is the historical model for your speculation? Would it be a revolt of the Wehrmacht against Hitler and his National Socialist Party in, let's say, 1943 or 44? Such was essentially the aim of the failed assassination of Hitler in July, 1944.
Or would it be the takeover of all of Germany, including the traditional military, by Hitler and his Nazis following the death of Hindenburg?
What I am getting at is this. If a radical-Islamist controlled military takes over in Tehran, we are no better off than we are now. If a more moderate group takes over, we may . . . may . . . be better off. My knowledge of the situation is limited, but what I have read indicates that the Revolutionary Guard is becoming more and more like the Nazi Party, a group which, by the end of WWII, was itself controlling most aspects of German society to the detriment of traditional institutions. A coup in Iran, therefore, might well be effected by a group more radical even than the Mullah controlled one we now face.
AzWm
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Dec 6, 2010 7:39:12 GMT -8
But, Joe, just what is the historical model for your speculation? Would it be a revolt of the Wehrmacht against Hitler and his National Socialist Party in, let's say, 1943 or 44? Such was essentially the aim of the failed assassination of Hitler in July, 1944. Or would it be the takeover of all of Germany, including the traditional military, by Hitler and his Nazis following the death of Hindenburg? What I am getting at is this. If a radical-Islamist controlled military takes over in Tehran, we are no better off than we are now. If a more moderate group takes over, we may . . . may . . . be better off. My knowledge of the situation is limited, but what I have read indicates that the Revolutionary Guard is becoming more and more like the Nazi Party, a group which, by the end of WWII, was itself controlling most aspects of German society to the detriment of traditional institutions. A coup in Iran, therefore, might well be effected by a group more radical even than the Mullah controlled one we now face. AzWm Indeed, what you say could be the ultimate reality. Nobody can predict the future unless it is a self fulfilled future, and that for only a limited time. There were several attempts on Hitlers life. Among the others were a bomb in a grandstand and a bomb that did not go off in an airplane. The most famous man in history might have been the guy who ended up not having the balls to just pull out a gun and shoot that Austrian asshole from hell. The Revolutionary Guard is fanatical. No, if there was a valid coup attempt, it would come from the ranks of the regular military, just like Claus Philipp Maria Justinian Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg was regular military and Catholic. In his faith it was a cardinal sin to take another life, but he was moved to act never the less. |
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Post by OCEOTL on Dec 6, 2010 19:10:55 GMT -8
We need to judge countries on their foreign policy; especially toward us.
A secular military junta is less likely to be suicidal.
I still favor letting the tide of history moderate Iran.
If they nuke anyone we should eliminate them though.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Dec 7, 2010 6:39:37 GMT -8
Don't forget that Iran has been funding international terrorism for thirty years now. If I were to ask people if they can name fifty or sixty cases of Iranian funded terrorism, they could not. In fact, because most Americans don't have a clue about what is going on in the world they could not even name one or two.
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Post by aztec79 on Feb 27, 2011 20:17:55 GMT -8
"Don't forget that Iran has been funding international terrorism for thirty years now."
exactly. Carter legacy.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Feb 28, 2011 6:45:19 GMT -8
"Don't forget that Iran has been funding international terrorism for thirty years now." exactly. Carter legacy. Jimmy did not have a clue when it comes to international problems caused by Radical Islam. He had some insane belief that you could negotiate with them. |
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